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Roverdose214
19-12-09, 07:52 PM
Has gone through alot me and this car... Stripped shed loads of weight out.
Aircon, rear seats, all carpet etc etc etc.

The best thing to do is look at the whole project on rovertech

http://www.rovertech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=107039

First time i seen her
http://http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC00440.jpg?t=1252201606

White TSW Evo R's look much better in real life
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC00499.jpg?t=1252201706

New brakes
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02656.jpg?t=1253208784

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01874.jpg?t=1259663339

13mm raise
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01875.jpg?t=1259663381

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01884.jpg?t=1259663615

Harnesses

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC00595.jpg?t=1257360771

Alot more has to come out :-D

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01969.jpg?t=1261088654

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01970.jpg?t=1261088744

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01974.jpg?t=1261088808

The normal seats are back in place, the rear floor vents have gone to. Still need to remove all that stupid sound proofing!

stamford
19-12-09, 08:26 PM
What are your plans for it then? Suggest you do something with the air filter, not doing it any good there at all.

Roverdose214
19-12-09, 08:47 PM
What are your plans for it then? Suggest you do something with the air filter, not doing it any good there at all.

I am going to supply a cold air feed as i like the roar from the induction kit straight on the TB.

Did you get my Pm earlier? and my plans for this is take as much possible weight out as i can... Going to get a set of lightweight seats and steering wheel.

All thats left in the interior is dash, 4x door cards 2 front seats and spare wheel but thats coming out as soon as i get the back lowered and some better tyres!

Also stripped out the engine bay, bonnet sound proofing, bulk head sound proofing, aircon, charcoal canister and all the standard airbox.

stamford
19-12-09, 08:49 PM
Yea, I replied earlier.

Are you going to track it?

Roverdose214
19-12-09, 08:55 PM
Yea, I replied earlier.

Are you going to track it?

Is there any chance you can tell me on here? cant get into my email atm and no its my road going car, the runaround :mml:

stamford
19-12-09, 11:00 PM
I made my own subframes using flat black steel and a mixture of the original ones. Cost me nothing! The seat was bought off ebay for around £50 if my memory serves me correct. I think you can buy bespoke subframes but they are not cheap, best to enquire direct to the company concerned. Other than that go for the alloy or steel side mounted types but that will mean the superior bucket seat as well that use the sidemounts and not the standard underside mount.

Roverdose214
19-12-09, 11:27 PM
Well i dont mean to sound like a fussy sod but i had my harness mounted where yours is and i was told its unsafe, what i did was put an eyebolt through the two plates which had the female seatbelt on it. I was told in a crash it would either pull the eyebolt out as its relying on the thread or brake my back as the harness brings your back down to the same angle its mounted at. I mounted mine on the D pillar in the end.

Told by a guy at a garage tho that if you have a bucket seat it will be safer than using a standard seat at that angle, is your rear clip clipped into one of the loop holes in the metal bracket that holds the webbing?

stamford
19-12-09, 11:46 PM
What? I don't understand that...............eyebolts are supplied to snap the seatbelt to. However I have a quick release rear strap so my rear point is bolted to the same point as the female parts. The angle is within the recommended tolerance for the rear straps and not bolted to the floor directly behind the seat. I have built and raced many cars over the years and all have passed scrutineering so I'll carry on and do what I have always done.

In my road going ZS I have kept the inertia seatbelt so I can use this as well as the harness. In order to do this I have modified some Audi seatbelt mounts that enable me to snap the harness into position without interferring with the inertia version.

Jay-ZS+
20-12-09, 09:40 AM
I made my own subframes using flat black steel and a mixture of the original ones. Cost me nothing! The seat was bought off ebay for around £50 if my memory serves me correct. I think you can buy bespoke subframes but they are not cheap, best to enquire direct to the company concerned. Other than that go for the alloy or steel side mounted types but that will mean the superior bucket seat as well that use the sidemounts and not the standard underside mount.

Demon tweeks can supply subframes for the zs for cobra seats quote "We can supply Cobra seatframes to suit your car.( they are listed for Rover 45 which should be the same ). These are £69.00 per seat + vat. These will fit all base mounted Cobra seats that have holes that face the floor. "

Much easier to do as Mick and others have and fabricate some up.

What are your plans engine wise???

Roverdose214
20-12-09, 01:02 PM
Stamford i didnt mean to offend, i was just told on RT
this is how my harness was first mounted

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02581.jpg?t=1253134881

I was told by many people its dangerous so i raised it to the D pillar.

And Jay for the time being im going to stick with the K series after the £900 full rebuild.
But hopefully get cams, 52mm tb etc.

Dave ZS-X
20-12-09, 01:51 PM
i used to have my harness mounted like that and everyone else i know with a track zs does the same, that doesnt mean its right though, but i cant see it being a problem as long as your seat is solid and mounted well.
Its not a problem when you get the roll cage in so just aim to do that asap if your worried.

Dave MGT
20-12-09, 02:16 PM
i used to have my harness mounted like that and everyone else i know with a track zs does the same, that doesnt mean its right though, but i cant see it being a problem as long as your seat is solid and mounted well.
Its not a problem when you get the roll cage in so just aim to do that asap if your worried.

Yep, thats how mine are mounted as well. Dont know why people say its dangerous!! The force involved to pull the threads out of that hole would be more than a person in accident.

Roverdose214
20-12-09, 04:05 PM
Yeh but on many harness mounting instructions it says the harness shouldnt be mounted more than 10degress below the shoulders as it can cause spinal injury and seatbelts/harnesses are ment to rely on stress points not the thread.

I think it should be safe as when you go forward in a collision a harness doesnt pull you back it holds you so when you go forward it wouldnt pull down the harness would just keep you in your seat.

And tbf im debating if i should put the interior back in..... When im not in the car i think i should put it back in but when im in the car i think wahey it looks and feels great lol

Its lighter, faster, more eco and i love the look. But 5 seats are always better than 2...

stamford
20-12-09, 06:53 PM
Taken from my Sabelt manual:

Anchorage 'C' for the shoulder pieces: use the lower anchorage of the rear seatbelts (generally located under the rear cushions).

Taken from another Sabelt supplier:

Notes on Harness Mounting

Ideally, shoulder straps should not bend more than 10° from the horizontal plane at the top of the shoulders. Maximum allowed by FIA rules is 45°. Harness mounting plates should be parallel to the belt’s plane, never perpendicular. Mounting the plate perpendicular to the belt puts the stress of impact on the weaker plate rather than the strength of the bolt.


However regulations vary if a Hans device is to be used.

Roverdose214
20-12-09, 11:03 PM
Oh fair enough, i have different on my Willans mounting instrucions.
Plus i seen this and went on this:

http://www.gforce.com/pdf/Harness_Install_Info.pdf

Scroll down to the image.

This is how mine is:

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01904.jpg?t=1259773575

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC01901.jpg?t=1259773671

Supercharged_Z
02-01-10, 07:08 AM
in all of my days involved in cars iv never seen harness's mounted like that...

however it does replicate how it would be fitted if a cage was used, albeit a bit longer

Roverdose214
07-01-10, 10:40 PM
in all of my days involved in cars iv never seen harness's mounted like that...

I have seen it done quite a few times now, but i have put them back where they were and the interior has gone back in, to cold and noisy. :oops:

Roverdose214
18-04-10, 06:31 AM
Its changed a few times since the first post!

Carpet has been replaced
Dash removed to be replaced
Back seats replaced with full leather
Front seats to be replaced with full leather
Rear lower strut brace
Engine broke and fixed it
Raised bonnet more
New alloys
Sports steering wheel
Heater matrix replaced

And a few random bits here and there

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02922.jpg?t=1270850360

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02971.jpg?t=1270850849

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02969.jpg?t=1270850957

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC03001.jpg?t=1271432239

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC02987-1.jpg?t=1271432304

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/Roverdose214/DSC03031.jpg?t=1271533494

StragglaSteve
19-04-10, 01:46 PM
dude, you need to sort those seats out!

they make my eyes bleed :(

very interesting work there though!

Maxxed_Ross
19-04-10, 02:19 PM
I wouldn't have thought harnesses with standard seats would have been a good idea in an accident... but apart from that you've done some amount of work!

Bobdope2002
19-04-10, 03:24 PM
all im saying is



why???

dvid
19-04-10, 03:34 PM
I was thinking similar, what is it you're trying to get from the project?

Ritchy
19-04-10, 06:24 PM
not impressed with your jacking method at all i have to say...knwing people who have died that way and that was using axle stands, get a decent set of stands and a few tyres underneath so if it does fall your okay, looks interesting all the same but i dont like the 45 seats, you do get a good induction roar off the k4's

Dave MGT
19-04-10, 07:14 PM
Cant quite understand.... you stripped it to improve power to weight ratio, but you have put heavy old leather seats back in and replaced the carpet?

Confussed.com

Jay-ZS+
19-04-10, 07:20 PM
Cant quite understand.... you stripped it to improve power to weight ratio, but you have put heavy old leather seats back in and replaced the carpet?

Confussed.com

There are plans for a roll cage in it too! :rambo: Not sure how much room the passengers in the back will be left with! :sleep:

petet16
19-04-10, 07:30 PM
Oh god, not here as well lol

stokey-leroy
20-04-10, 11:43 AM
what boss kit have you got in mate? ive been looking for one but dont know which one is suitable, fancy getting myself a nice little racing steering wheel haha!