"The Project"

[Maxxed_Ross]

A sneak peek for those of you not on my facebook

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But all was not as it seemed with the bodywork

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In the bodyshop and things didn't quite go to plan with sticking the arches back on

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care to count how many colours it has been? I count 8

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The roof used to have proper painted stripes! And was deffinately an Atomic Kitten car at some point

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UPDATE


Well as you all know by now the front bumper was in a right sorry state when I got the car, and after sitting outside in the rain for so long the front bumper was well rotten and past the point of being saved....

enter the new one

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Totally built from scratch by the guys at Autotechnique and grafted onto a Rover 45 bumper you would be hard pressed to tell it from the original - and it's actually lighter!


UPDATE:

Fresh out of the oven!

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Update:


Back at Dreadnought again

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just after fitting the coilovers

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Insides going back in again

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Serious stopping power

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Some fun wiring up the DTA ECU

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Some of the fresh sponsors stickers

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At the last show at Knockhill, just after trying to make a bid for the track over the top of Kev

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Fuel system finished

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And a pic I found of it when it was brand new!

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[Tom163]

Thats way cool!! look forward to the rest of it.

[RudeDogg1]

nice shame about the spoiler :p lol

[ZS180V6]

Nice when will you be racing it ?

[stamford]

Is this the ex-display BTCC version? The one with no guts? Nice to see it hasn't been broken up.

[Maxxed_Ross]

it is indeed the spare one that didn't have an engine, but 70% of everything else is there.

It's going to be one hell of a project getting it running properly at BTCC spec with all the toys working, but it's getting there slowly.

No plans to race it yet, but that all depends on when it's finished

[peterzs]

Looks a great project, ultimate track car!!!!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::super::super:

[wackyschild]

Looks good! your gonna get a lot of fun out of that when your finished !!

[andys1981]

looks like its outside stainless creations,is it parked there often mate,a could nip down before ma work have a wee scan at it finally meet ye!

[Maxfly]

Looks nae bad, whit missing/needing upgraded on her the now then?? :)

[Nor]

That's quite a wing :) GL.

[KevG]

IIRC, the last time I heard it didnt have any braking system or electrical system, I think it is just a rolling chassis, that had the Playstation hooked up to the steering wheel, and the big monitor placed in front of the windscreen, but since it was bought by RSM over a year ago for £2500 from Ebay, I dont think a lot of work got actually done to it as RSM had big plans for it, although I could be wrong.

[p_b82]

ohh that looks stunning - even with the proper wing fitted :D

[Jay-ZS+]

Looks great, you got any jobs going where you work???? You must be doing pretty well for youself Ross :)

[mattie007]

Im glad someone saved it for its real purpose!

[RalphG]

The one that had the Playstation installed was sprayed in the RAC colours. I started trying to buy it... then I found out that the car was a Rover 400 that had been hacked around and rewelded multiple times.

[Dave ZS-X]

great project mate, well done.

[Ritchy]

looks great:D cant wait to see it

[Supercharged_Z]

The one that had the Playstation installed was sprayed in the RAC colours. I started trying to buy it... then I found out that the car was a Rover 400 that had been hacked around and rewelded multiple times.

i dont think its this particular car tbh.

[Southside_ZS]

Ahhh i wondered where that got to. Used to belong to Friersgate MG-Rover dealership in Tamworth was in their showroom until it closed down in late 2007. Then got moved the their other dealership in Lichfield. That then became Ford and they sold the ZS off. Then it appeared on Ebay again in Lichfield then RSM bought it.

[Steves Cleenz]

i dont think its this particular car tbh.

agree this one has proper WSR chassis numbers on it

lookforward to seeing this running ross :medieval:

[Maxxed_Ross]

looks like its outside stainless creations,is it parked there often mate,a could nip down before ma work have a wee scan at it finally meet ye!

It was indeed outside Stainless Creations, but it was just there for the day to get the exhaust made up and fitted. It'll be going back once the engine is running to have the intercooler pipework done too

Looks nae bad, whit missing/needing upgraded on her the now then?? :)

Everything :greedy:

IIRC, the last time I heard it didnt have any braking system or electrical system, I think it is just a rolling chassis, that had the Playstation hooked up to the steering wheel, and the big monitor placed in front of the windscreen, but since it was bought by RSM over a year ago for £2500 from Ebay, I dont think a lot of work got actually done to it as RSM had big plans for it, although I could be wrong.

This isn't the playstation version. It was a spare full BTCC shell that was used as a mock up to sit outside the VIP tent.

RSM did quite a bit of work to it over the winter and it now has most of the fuel system, some electrics and a T-series engine 70% fitted. With a bit more work it should be running by the time I get back onshore again - or be very close to it. Certain aspects like the brakes are going to be a bit of a nightmare but it's getting there :clap:

Looks great, you got any jobs going where you work???? You must be doing pretty well for youself Ross :)

Haha well this is the 3rd time I've had the deposit saved to buy a house and blown it on something daft instead :look:

Im glad someone saved it for its real purpose!

Thanks, hopefully it will get on track this year and once run in and set-up properly I'll be going to all the track days I can with it

Ahhh i wondered where that got to. Used to belong to Friersgate MG-Rover dealership in Tamworth was in their showroom until it closed down in late 2007. Then got moved the their other dealership in Lichfield. That then became Ford and they sold the ZS off. Then it appeared on Ebay again in Lichfield then RSM bought it.

Yeah that's the one. Thanks for that info, I didn't know the exact details of what had happened with it

agree this one has proper WSR chassis numbers on it

lookforward to seeing this running ross :medieval:

It does indeed :clap: I can't wait to take it out and see what it can do

[Tony10]

I am looking forward to this one being finished and running. Looks great all ready Ross!

[LozMachine]

Looks great mate, hope the build goes well,
Now then Ross, about those arches............................................ ...:kissing2:

[Maxxed_Ross]

haha, you'd need 50mm spacers all round if you had them on a road car!

[RalphG]

If you need an engine for this project I have a very nice 2.0L supercharged engine that was being developed for use in a production ZS.

[Maxxed_Ross]

hmmmm tempting

how much?

[Tony10]

uh-oh! supercharged? :crazy:

[Maxxed_Ross]

haha I wish, it's going to to cost too much I think

[GTMSpyder]

If you need an engine for this project I have a very nice 2.0L supercharged engine that was being developed for use in a production ZS.

Is that the Janspeed built one with Eaton blower mounted on the side and Omega forged pistons?? Approx 250 bhp IIRC?

[RalphG]

Yes, that's the one. I've tracked down the people that mapped the engine, and they still have the maps to load onto a new ECU.

[Maxxed_Ross]

if I had the money I'd have it off you in a second.... but the coilovers, fire extinguisher system and the bodywork needing done have put an end to that idea

[LozMachine]

Ooooh what bodywork ya getting done? :fishing:

[Maxxed_Ross]

Nothing drastic, the front arch extensions are starting to come away, the front bumper need alot of work to get it perfect again and the roof needs re-painted

[Marky Mark]

Are you keeping it the same race colours, and I take it the car will be going just on track? :smile1:

[Maxxed_Ross]

yeah it'll be keeping the stripes but I'm un-decided as to what stickers are going back on once it's cleaned up

[Tony10]

you need to get a massive theMGZS.co.uk sticker!

[peterzs]

Maye you need a sponsor to give you some stickers.

:yes::yes::yes::yes::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Maxxed_Ross]

I actually have a few already, so most of the old sponsors won't be going back on again

[Maxxed_Ross]

Nothing drastic

scratch that, see post 1 :whistle:

[grimmy]

Oops.

[Maxxed_Ross]

more like £ooooPS!

[KevG]

more like £ooooPS!

If that car is to make it as a race car, then I suspect it will swallow even more money, other than just a pretty paint job.

[Maxxed_Ross]

correct, it will. The paint is being done now so that it can go to Scottish Modified as planned and not look like the total dog it used to be

[Maxxed_Ross]

new update in post 1

[Ritchy]

looking good

[Maxxed_Ross]

update page 1 people!

[Smokey]

:morepics:
:please:

[Bobdope2002]

oi ya cant tease us like that

we want more and better pics

[Maxxed_Ross]

I'm still in the middle of the north sea so have no control over the pictures

[Bobdope2002]

I'm still in the middle of the north sea so have no control over the pictures

ahhh right lol

so youve obviously painted it white what else is happening with it

[Maxxed_Ross]

oooo lots of other fun and exciting things!

[Maxxed_Ross]

New update on post 1, and it's the one you've all been waiting on!

[Ritchy]

looks really really nice, but i did like the black with the green stripes better

[KevG]

Ross, Am disappointed mate, I thought you would have had some exciting paint job done!, just looks like a body kitted ZS with a huge boot spoiler, doesn't look anything as special as it was before!

Comments aside, it does look good and fresh.

What white was it done with, looks like UPOL white to me?

[Maxxed_Ross]

I liked it too, but wasn't going to shell out for a full respray to make a replica of a car run by a company that doesn't exist any more

Plus a black track car would have been far too expensive to keep looking good

[Maxxed_Ross]

Ross, Am disappointed mate, I thought you would have had some exciting paint job done!, just looks like a body kitted ZS with a huge boot spoiler, doesn't look anything as special as it was before!

Comments aside, it does look good and fresh.

What white was it done with, looks like UPOL white to me?

It needs to be subtle as it will be run in on the road... don't want too much attention from the fuzz - hence why the spoiler is now removable too

It'll be getting viper stripes again before it hits the track :happy:

It's actually Vauxhall Ice White... it was the brightest I could get

[KevG]

It needs to be subtle as it will be run in on the road... don't want too much attention from the fuzz

How are you gonna get it road legal?

[roverdave81]

can we see some more pic's including the engine bay and inside the car

[Jay-ZS+]

Which coilovers did you go for? Looks very subtle

[Maxxed_Ross]

How are you gonna get it road legal?

Trade plates FTW

can we see some more pic's including the engine bay and inside the car

No, because those bits are still in progress :construction:

Which coilovers did you go for? Looks very subtle

Had to get AVO to custom make a set for me, so are fully adjustable. I've not slammed it yet as they've not been set up and half the engine & interior is missing.

It might go a bit lower when finished but to be honest while it looks good it creates more problems than it's worth

[Bobdope2002]

looking good

[Supercharged_Z]

Trade plates are to drive with no tax arnt they???

[andys1981]

looking good ross,quality 2nd name on the back door windows anaw,where did ye get the sunstrip done

[Alan.F]

Trade plates are to drive with no tax arnt they???

Trade plates cover everything ross

[Supercharged_Z]

what a car with no mot or tax? or being road legal i.e it wouldnt pass a mot?

[Supercharged_Z]

TRADE LICENCES
A trade licence is a concession available to a motor trader or vehicle tester to enable him to use, on a road repairable at public expense, a motor vehicle which is (a) not Licensed or (b) not licensed at the correct rate of duty, without contravening the legal requirement that a vehicle licence be in force for the vehicle. A pair of trade plates is issued with the trade licence for display on the front and rear of a vehicle and they can be transferred from one vehicle to another.

They are issued under Section 11 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 and a person may hold more than one trade licence. The licence and trade plates can be used only for a business purpose and one which is authorised by Part V of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 1971. Many operators and drivers believe that the use of trade plates on a vehicle provides exemption from many legal requirements. That is not the case. The only blanket exemptions for a vehicle used under a trade licence are from operators' licensing and, if used unladen, from plating and testing. A, trade licence gives no exemption itself from drivers' hours and tachograph rules or from LGV driver licensing requirements but the vehicle driven could come within a general exemption contained within these rules according to the type of vehicle or its use at the time.

AUTHORISED PURPOSE
A motor trader must not use a motor vehicle under a trade licence for any purpose other than a business purpose and an authorised purpose.

A business purpose is one:

1. connected with his business as a manufacturer or repairer of or dealer in mechanically propelled vehicles;

2. connected with his business as a manufacturer or repairer of or dealer in trailers carried on in conjunction with his business as a motor trader; or

3. connected with his business of modifying vehicles (by fitting accessories or otherwise) or valeting vehicles.

An authorised purpose is:

(a) test or trial of the vehicle or its accessories or equipment in the ordinary course of construction, modification or repair or after their completion.

(b) going to or or from a public weighbridge for finding the vehicle's unladen weight or going to a place of registration or inspection by a person acting for the Secretary of State;

(c) test or trial of the vehicle for the benefit of a prospective purchaser, or going to or from such test or trial;

(d) test or trial of the vehicle for the benefit of a person interested in promoting publicity about it, or going to or from such test or trial;

(e) delivering the vehicle to the place where the purchaser intends to keep it,

(f) demonstrating the operation of the vehicle, its accessories or equipment when being handed over to the purchaser;

(g) (i) delivering the vehicle from one part of his premises to another part of his premises,

(ii) delivering it to or from his premises to the premises of, or between parts of the premises of, another motor trader, or

(iii) removing it from the premises of another motor trader direct to his own premises;

(h) going to, or returning from, a workshop in which a body or a special type of equipment or accessory is to be, or has been, fitted to the vehicle or in which it is to be, or has been, painted, valeted or repaired;

(i) going from the premises of a motor trader to a place where the vehicle is to be transported by train, ship or aircraft, or going to the premises of a motor trader from a place to which it has been so transported;

(j) going to or returning from any garage, auction room or other place at which vehicles are usually stored or usually or periodically offered for sale and at which the vehicle is to be or has been stored or offered for sale;

(k) going to or returning from a place where the vehicle is to be or has been tested or going to a place where it is to be broken up or dismantled.

In (a) to (k) above, a motor vehicle which draws a trailer is deemed to be a single vehicle. This means that if the trailer comes within one of these purposes the motor vehicle does too. A motor vehicle manufacturer who keeps a motor vehicle for research and development can use it on a road under a trade licence for research and development purposes only. A vehicle in his temporary possession can be used for purposes a. to k.

A vehicle tester can use a trade licence only for testing motor vehicles and trailers, or their accessories and equipment, in the course of his business as a vehicle tester.

CARRIAGE OF GOODS
A motor trader may not carry goods on a vehicle used under a trade licence except the following types of goods and only when the vehicle is used for the authorised purposes specified:

1. a load for testing or demonstrating the vehicle, its accessories or equipment and which is returned to the place of loading (except when demonstrating its equipment, in case of accident or if the load consists of water, fertiliser or refuse) when used within (a), (c), (d) or (f) above;

2. a vehicle used or to be used for travel from or to the place of collection or delivery when carried by a vehicle being delivered or collected within (e) to (j) above,

3. a load built in as part of the vehicle or permanently attached to it,

4. parts, accessories or equipment designed to be fitted to the vehicle and tools for fitting them when used within (g), (h) or (i) above,

5. a trailer when the carrying vehicle is used within (e), (h) or (i) above.

A motor vehicle manufacturer or vehicle tester can carry in a vehicle only (a) a load for testing the vehicle, its accessories and equipment and which is returned to the place of loading without having been removed, unless it is removed in testing or in case of accident or (b) a load built in as part of the vehicle or permanently attached to it. For the purposes of the restrictions on carrying goods, an articulated vehicle is deemed to be a single vehicle.

CARRIAGE OF PASSENGERS
The holder of a trade licence must not use a vehicle under the licence to carry a person on the vehicle who is not carried in connection with the authorised purpose.

THE LICENCE HOLDER
A trade licence can be held by: (a) a motor trader, for motor vehicles from time to time temporarily in his possession in the course of his business as a motor trader. A motor trader is (1) a manufacturer or repairer of, or dealer in, motor vehicles; (ii) a person whose business is wholly or mainly in collecting and delivering motor vehicles; (iii) a person whose business is that of modifying vehicles (whether by fitting accessories or otherwise) before the vehicle's first UK registration; or (iv) a person whose business is valeting vehicles. (b) a vehicle tester, for motor vehicles submitted to him for testing in the course of his vehicle-testing business. A vehicle tester is a person, other than a motor trader, whose business is to regularly test, on roads, motor vehicles belonging to other people; (c) a motor trader who is a manufacturer of motor vehicles, for vehicles in his possession as a motor trader; for vehicles kept and used by him for research and development in the course of his business as a manufacturer, including other manufacturers' vehicles submitted for road tests. A trade licence cannot be held by a person whose business is solely to do with trailers.

[KevG]

Also this too, excerpt from DVLA Guidance Notes on Trade Licences:

A vehicle used under a trade licence is exempt from the MOT testing requirements only when being tested during the course of , or on completion of, repairs or when being driven to and from a pre-arranged MOT examination. However, a vehicle which has failed the test or which has no valid MOT must be towed

So, you cannot use the car in any way, it has to be towed/trailered to anywhere you wish it to go.

[Maxxed_Ross]

looking good ross,quality 2nd name on the back door windows anaw,where did ye get the sunstrip done

The guy that owns Autotechnique also owns a graphics company so they did quite a few of the stickers. To be honest I'm n ot that impressed with the quality of the cut graphics, but the sun strips seem to be good

Got them for free so can't complain :angel:

[Jay-ZS+]

Need to update the website with more pics!!! Looks very professional!

What were avos customer service like? I need to get my coils refurbed and heard bad things about their customer service. Wonder wether to go to else where to get them done.

[Tony10]

Ross this is looking great! Cant wait to see the rest!

[MG6Turbo]

Hmm,

I agree with most, the previous colours really suited it, but i guess that is because we are used to seeing it in that livery.

White does suit the zs, but i think the touring car will need something more to make it look right.

Looks a good job though !

George

[staccato]

Yeah the KWR MG looked really odd in white too. Less in your face I suppose but still looks good.

[Maxxed_Ross]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs084.snc4/35542_132696276755538_100000455006145_258313_86291 _n.jpg

I think it suits it

[stamford]

Looks pretty good Ross, nice boot badge ;)

[Steves Cleenz]

i love it :D

[Bobdope2002]

not so keen on the spoiler but its to your tastes

[Maxxed_Ross]

Looks pretty good Ross, nice boot badge ;)

a subtle nod using a combination of a ZS badge and a ZT badge :yes: Still got a few graphic to stick on the back... I think it looks a bit sparse :sad:

i love it :D

You need to send me some stickers for it dude

not so keen on the spoiler but its to your tastes

It came with it :blush:

A little know fact is that the spoiler actually doesn't do much for downforce... it's more there for looks :slap:

[Steves Cleenz]

will do Ross, i will get my mate to make me some up :)

[silver bullet]

I like this project, awesome track car when its done!

[Gazza]

looking good Ross

[Maxxed_Ross]

cheers guys

going to make a start on getting the fuel system sorted and fitting the brake bias valve this week

[Maxxed_Ross]

Right bit of an update on this since it's been a while lol

The fuel system is now done and ready to go. The ATL 45l fuel cell is mounted in the boot and is linked up to a TVR fuel pump that sits right next to it.

The electrics are also more or less done apart from the last couple of bits. Lights all work, the relay and fuse boxes are done and all the first extinguisher system is working.

So basically just need to fabricate mounting brackets for the brakes, finish piping up the engine and have it mapped.

Just having a bit of bother sourcing driveshafts, so if anyone has a pair of 180 driveshafts knocking about let me know!

not far to go now really, so fingers crossed it will be on track this year... once it's thawed out

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1334.snc4/162687_172914389400393_100000455006145_467715_3254 540_n.jpg

[stamford]

That car should be in a garage all wrapped up nice and warm!

[Maxxed_Ross]

I thought it was, but it seems to be back outside again for some reason. Think the garage was being painted

[Maxxed_Ross]

post 1 updated with loads of new pics

[peterzs]

Great build, think I would keep it in a box when its finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bow::bow::bow::clap2::clap2::clap2:

[Bobdope2002]

Awesome Mate Love it!!

[Maxxed_Ross]

thanks guys

unfortunately after this project costing so much (and it's still not finished!) it will be used as much as possible once everything is sorted out and the race engine is back in.

Ultimately I'd love to take it around the 'Ring, but I don't fancy driving all that way with it on a trailer. Then I think the little 45 litre tank would only get me a couple of laps before it needed filled up

[Paddyniknak]

car to be proud of that mate

[Maxxed_Ross]

try telling my other half that, she just sees it as what should have been a house deposit lol

[petet16]

If you use 180 shafts you'll need to fabricate some sort of bracket for the intermediate support bearing.

[Maxxed_Ross]

that guy I found on ebay is sending me a set that should fit straight in, he is running a T series with PG1 box too

[petet16]

Ah cool, sorted then.

[Paddyniknak]

Haha dont get me started i keep gettin told i should be saving for a house

[Maxxed_Ross]

haha I'm on strike 3 now. Had a deposit, declined the mortgauge because I hadn't been in my job long enough so bought the RB320 by accident.

Almost had another deposit, Bought the Defender then spunked an insane amount of money into it.

Nearly had a 3rd deposit then bought the touring car. That was nearly 2 years ago now and it's still bleeding me dry lol


Hopefully next time will be the winner

[petet16]

I've just found out that the 2.0 kv6 doesn't use the 2 piece shaft, so pair of shafts off a v6 45 should fit if the ebay ones fall down.

[rakester]

I've just found out that the 2.0 kv6 doesn't use the 2 piece shaft, so pair of shafts off a v6 45 should fit if the ebay ones fall down.

good find :) makes my search easier hehe

[Maxxed_Ross]

I can't imagine there's many 2.0 KV6's about though.

I've never seen a V6 45 I don't think

[KevG]

I can't imagine there's many 2.0 KV6's about though.

I've never seen a V6 45 I don't think

When I bought my ZS, they were 2 R45 2.0 V6's in the showroom, one being a facelift, and a Mk1 that had the Mk2 180 centre console etc !!weird!!

[Southside_ZS]

Looks awesome but still think it would of looked better in the original X-power colours.

[talkingcars]

The 2.0 KV6 is meant to be smoother than the 1.8T, the 2.0 was pitted against the baby jag engine and the 1.8T was against the audi.

The O/E airfilter on the 180 was designed for the 2.0L, that's why it's so restrictive on the 2.5.

[Maxxed_Ross]

my new favourite toy

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs762.ash1/165336_181940718497760_100000455006145_531806_3470 346_n.jpg

[coreygraham180]

looks awsome i want one

[ThumpJunkie]

That is ******* cool Rossatron 3000.

[Bobdope2002]

Speedo???

[Maxxed_Ross]

if you've got time to look at the speedo you're not going fast enough! lol

why else do you think I've made the rev counter so huge haha

[lawrence-zs180]

thats awsome dude!

[Jay-ZS+]

Very nice! Whats the indicator on the center console for?

[Dave ZS-X]

thats for the heart rate monitor....when it hits zero you know its time to pit. lol

[Bobdope2002]

Lol looks good mate

Uve sank some pennies into this gonna be a monster wen it's going properley

[Maxxed_Ross]

I dodn't really want to think about it.... I'd probably cry.

Dreadnought have said a few times that I'm mad doing this. Brian worked out that so far I could have bought a ZR trophy car and raced it for a full season

[Maxxed_Ross]

Very nice! Whats the indicator on the center console for?


that's to tell me when the engine is about to blow up... I kid you not :cry:

[Luti]

I dodn't really want to think about it.... I'd probably cry.

Dreadnought have said a few times that I'm mad doing this. Brian worked out that so far I could have bought a ZR trophy car and raced it for a full season

YUP! your a diddy! :geek:

[stamford]

that's to tell me when the engine is about to blow up... I kid you not :cry:

and normally too late when it has lit up!

Hands up those that have raced in one form or another have actually thought **** it I'll keep going and hope to pick some points up?

[Luti]

I had a loose wheel at oulton on the last lap and thought exactly that. Got over the line and quickly stopped to find the wheel hanging off :D Made it tho!

[Maxxed_Ross]

or when it was peeing oil out of it at Knockhill last year and we had to push it from the pit lane after the race

[Luti]

or when it was peeing oil out of it at Knockhill last year and we had to push it from the pit lane after the race

LOL how could I forget that! Car was full of smoke!

[Maxxed_Ross]

don't suppose that place with my brakes have been back in touch yet?

[Luti]

Just rang them and they have been really busy. They hope to start them in 2 weeks. They are fitting this job in between big jobs in order to keep the cost down for you. If you want them done sooner then rob a bank and pay BIG money. :smart:

[Alan.F]

I had a loose wheel at oulton on the last lap and thought exactly that. Got over the line and quickly stopped to find the wheel hanging off :D Made it tho!


Thats the day you did this aint it Paul lol

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/FatGit/IMG_0976.jpg

[Maxxed_Ross]

Just rang them and they have been really busy. They hope to start them in 2 weeks. They are fitting this job in between big jobs in order to keep the cost down for you. If you want them done sooner then rob a bank and pay BIG money. :smart:

thanks dude, nice to know they've not forgotten about me :thumbsup:

Just getting twitchy as nothing else can be done until the wheels are back on again :rant:

[Drew]

you want me to build an engine for it?

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

what sort of engine?

[Drew]

your going T turbo right? name the bhp you want to end up with and ill build it.

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

yeah I am

aiming for 300ish bhp

[Drew]

there are a few that will say 300 is ok on std internals. its not.

if you want to know it wont blow up everytime you go out, you would be wise to get some forged pistons. for ultimate reliability get a set of rods too.

costly, yes. reliable, yes.

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

that was the plan Drew. Forged pistons and rods, balanced crank, new AP Racing clutch, skimmed head and uprated gasket, polished head... possibly get it gas flowed depending on the cost.

Looking into getting a proper boost controller for it too

Combined with a set of modified S14 manifolds and a Garret T28R that should be quite nice

sound about right? I've no experiance with the T series so as always any help is appreciated

[Drew]

you must have been reading up though, good selection so far.

head polishing is a no. porting is a yes.

very light skim on head and block to make them flat is all you need.

lightweight steel flywheel is nice for a relitivly small ?250ish?

Drew

[carmadbaker]

You can build engines drew? :-O damn it!! Wish i knew that a year ago i would of had you do mine :-( not that i dont trust my handywork... But a pro like yourself would of made me alot happier!
Go the whole hog Ross ;-) its worth it.... Trust me!

[Maxxed_Ross]

you must have been reading up though, good selection so far.

head polishing is a no. porting is a yes.

very light skim on head and block to make them flat is all you need.

lightweight steel flywheel is nice for a relitivly small ?250ish?

Drew

The head has already had a light skim before it was rebuilt last time with a new gasket, and it's not been run since... so hopefully that will be ok.

Where's the bast place to get a flywheel?

You can build engines drew? :-O damn it!! Wish i knew that a year ago i would of had you do mine :-( not that i dont trust my handywork... But a pro like yourself would of made me alot happier!
Go the whole hog Ross ;-) its worth it.... Trust me!

I see you've discovered my post on Rovertech then :ninja: I'll not be building the fancy engine until the rest of the car is set up using the other standard T series... but there's no harm in doing the prep work now.

Seems my 300bhp estimate might be a bit low if everything goes to plan :bow:

[Marky Mark]

Where's the bast place to get a flywheel?

I got mine from ekspower over on XPF for about ?235. You will need to buy the uprated bolts for it as well. Superb mod. :mml:

[Drew]

ive built a few yeah. some i have graphs for...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/Roverdose/RollRdTi.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/Roverdose/RollRd6.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/Roverdose/RollRd11.jpg

think i got my flywheel from TTV. http://www.ttvracing.com/

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

how much would you take to build my engine then Drew? (PM me back if you want)

[Drew]

for me to put it together, not a lot. you can supply parts if you want, i dont have a problem if they are good quality.

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

Well as some of you might have spotted on my facebook I hit a huge setback yesterday

The place that was making up the brake brackets are convinced the rear hubs have been bodged beyond repair to fit the big centre locking stud. They recon if I even try and corner it will fail and whe wheel will come off with the hub, brakes and other guff still attached.

Hopefully the front hubs can be salvaged but it looks like they are guff too

Gutted isn't the word for how I feel about the whole project just now.

Various people are trying to source me the right bits to make it all right again, so I can only thank people for the fantstic support over the last few days. It's certainly helped keep me sane until I get home and can assess it all myself.

Looks like another sizable wad of cash will have to be chucked at it to make it right

[Nor]

Gah :( On the plus side the car looks genuinely fantastic, and it will be a dream to drive. From what you've said it's obviously over budget, but probably no more than the average driver loses every year in depreciation for the crappy boring cars they drive.

[Maxxed_Ross]

you'd be supprised... very supprised

[Dave ZS-X]

sheeeesh, i can imagine the kind of money thats already gone into this and then to hit this ....well id be feeling just like you are....gutted!!
It looked a complete dog when i saw it and you have transformed it, you have literally pulled it back from being not much more than scrap heap fodder and made it into the best looking zs bar none !!.
I can understand your frustration but could you really throw in the towel now after all you have done, guess you could maybe sell a share in the car to raise some easy wonga, i dunno.
All the best though with it.

[Craig]

Gutted for you mate, I wouldnt like to guess how much its cost so far. I know its not much help at the moment, but when you are finished, it will be probs the best zs around and something the rest of us could only dream of owning.

[p_b82]

Sorry to read that mate... makes my setbacks with my car seem realitvely minor!

Hope you can get it all sorted as painlessly as possible!

[leezs110]

looks like an awesome project so far with much wonga spent on it! ;)

Setbacks are inevitable with any project, judging from the state the car was in when you first got it, its come a long way & credit is due here as the car now looks great! :)

Hope the issues with the hubs gets resolved soon! :D

[Maxxed_Ross]

it's getting there. Still having some driveshaft issues but almost everything else is done

Once the driveshafts are in, the big brakes are going back on and it's mapping time!

[Maxxed_Ross]

well another update just incase anyone thought I had forgotten about it lol

Still can't get hold of the right drive shafts anywhere. Rover 420 apparently from a petrol or Diesel fit, so if anyone sees any for sale give me a shout please!

It's looking all sorry for itself again, propped up on a pallet with no wishbones, uprights, wheels or brakes!

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Theres a 420 breaking at Longniddry,East Lothian..
Linky Info http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-420-SDI-1996-BREAKING-1-HEADLIGHT-BULB-/290468326551?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a142ec97

[Maxxed_Ross]

thanks buddy, just sent them a message. Nice and close too!

[Maxxed_Ross]

well no joy with any of the local sources, but I'm hoping to have another set and a radiator on the way soon!

I've put a deadline on the brakes now as I've had enough... either they're finished by the end of the month or I'm going somewhere else!

[Scruffy]

I Just skipped through this thread and I just wanted to congratulate you on what you have done with the car!

Please keep the faith! It will all come good in the end if you're hearts init......

Dips if you ever sell it!

[S13AVO]

Just had a look through the pics and posts, think your doing a fantastic job, hope everything goes right from now on, stunning looking car :-)

[Maxxed_Ross]

cheers lads!

The last few bits are still coming in. Hopefully there will be a turbo radiator, the right drive shafts and a Sheddist clutch kit in the post this week.

Once I get the brakes back and plubed in then it can finally go for mapping!

[Maxxed_Ross]

Time for another mini-update I suppose

The front brakes are more or less finished being machined. But when we went to put everything together on the bench the standard ZS wheels that I was hoping to use as a stop gap don't fit over the BTCC brakes! Monumental Epic Fail on my part there...

So it looks like the centre lock wheels are back in the picture again. Efforts are being made as we speak to make bespoke hubs with the long centre stud

[Ritchy]

woooo, kinda, think itll be worth the exra work ross

[peterzs]

Have no idea what the BTCC front hubs are like, but no chance the MGB/RV8 front splined hubs would fit, or be man enough for the torque.

Just a thought, as it seems most of our ZS bits come out of some parts bin or orther, from the old Rover days!!!!

[Drew]

ive got a very good m/c shop down here if you need anything?

Drew

[BUCKYDEVIL]

So are you getting your Very own custom wheels then ?
Is there no resource for you to get BTCC wheels for the hubs.?

[Maxxed_Ross]

Have no idea what the BTCC front hubs are like, but no chance the MGB/RV8 front splined hubs would fit, or be man enough for the torque.

Just a thought, as it seems most of our ZS bits come out of some parts bin or orther, from the old Rover days!!!!

The ZS hubs are the same as Honda Integra I think, but when I looked into those hubs I was going to have exactly the same problem fitting those as I would the ones I was going to get from WSR. Because they were custom machined they don't fit any of the standard suspension points :blink:

ive got a very good m/c shop down here if you need anything?

Drew

I might need to take you up on that, the guy up here can do it but he's taking an age to do it. The car has been on axel stands since May now :wavecry:

So are you getting your Very own custom wheels then ?
Is there no resource for you to get BTCC wheels for the hubs.?

I looked into custom wheels and had Compomotive all lined up and ready to go, but the offset required (-20 I think it was) was going to put a hell of a stress on the rest of the hub components... and spacers for the standard wheels are out because the brakes foul them.

I already have 2 sets of BTCC wheels in the garage, the problem I had was that my hubs were a botched hybrid of the BTCC centre stud and a standard ZS hub welded together. It didn't look right and after all this work I didn't want to risk a failure half way round a corner.

Sooooo the whole thing has gone full circle and I'm having mu own bespoke hubs made up to fit the original BTCC wheels - complete with centre lock nuts :punk:

At this rate the brakes and hubs are going to cost more than my original budget for the whole build... so that should give an idea of how insane this has become now :ike:

[Supercharged_Z]

if i was you Ross, i would of gone to the Brembo setup from rovertech, 4 pots, 330mm disks easy peasy!! real good stoping power

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Knowing what you've overblown your budget by and adding up total cost so far,
Would you have still started this in hindsight ?
It is an outstanding project and fair play to you for seeing it through but was there ever a point you felt like dumping the dream ?

[peterzs]

The other way of looking at it is that it will be a one off, and you cant really put a price on it.

Good luck to Maxxed Ross and hope its soon sorted.

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Good luck to Maxxed Ross and hope its soon sorted.

And so say ALL of us..

[Drew]

The ZS hubs are the same as Honda Integra I think, but when I looked into those hubs I was going to have exactly the same problem fitting those as I would the ones I was going to get from WSR. Because they were custom machined they don't fit any of the standard suspension points

ive had a lot of parts made by force racing before, very high quality and the extra bling factor of titanium! think that came up iro ?2k for 2 bottom arms, 2 top arms, 2 hubs and 2 drive flanges for my metro!

centre lock drive flanges....
http://www.force-racing.co.uk/uploads/i/wh500-ht500-at1-ko1/titanium-and-alloy-centrelock-system.jpg

http://www.force-racing.co.uk/

Drew

[carmadbaker]

but was there ever a point you felt like dumping the dream ?

If there wasn't then he is a stronger man i am! keep up the good work man :punk:

[Maxxed_Ross]

if i was you Ross, i would of gone to the Brembo setup from rovertech, 4 pots, 330mm disks easy peasy!! real good stoping power

I know, but I wanted the brakes to be right and the BTCC water cooled brakes look amazing :bow:

Knowing what you've overblown your budget by and adding up total cost so far,
Would you have still started this in hindsight ?
It is an outstanding project and fair play to you for seeing it through but was there ever a point you felt like dumping the dream ?

No, now way, not a chance. I knew it was going to be fairly complicated and expensive - but there have been so many daft little things that have caused huges issues that shouldn't have been a problem. Time has been a massive factor too. There have been a fair few dealys and with the car being so far away I'm struggling to find time to work on it effectively.

I think I've tried to dump the project twice now. At the start of the year I actually put it up for sale on some specialist websites but took it off again. I don't want to have gone this far and not finish it now :)

The other way of looking at it is that it will be a one off, and you cant really put a price on it.

Good luck to Maxxed Ross and hope its soon sorted.

Thanks, and that will make it all worth it

ive had a lot of parts made by force racing before, very high quality and the extra bling factor of titanium! think that came up iro ?2k for 2 bottom arms, 2 top arms, 2 hubs and 2 drive flanges for my metro!

centre lock drive flanges....
http://www.force-racing.co.uk/uploads/i/wh500-ht500-at1-ko1/titanium-and-alloy-centrelock-system.jpg

http://www.force-racing.co.uk/

Drew

that is almost exactly what I'm after, but it will be designed to go inside the standard hub and be a complete piece of material. It looks like that one is a bolt on single stud? I looked into that but it was going to push the wheels out past the arches by quite a bit

[Drew]

they can make drive flanges, so i cant see why they couldnt add the single lock onto it?

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

I'll keep it in mind buddy, thanks

[Mikeyb85]

Stop buying landrovers Ross and finish this bloody touring car!

[Maxxed_Ross]

I can't do anything until the brakes are finished. I've put a deadline of January on them or I'm pulling the plug and going somewhere else to get them done. Fed up with the car being stuck on axel stands!

[vanishing days]

any news on the car

[Maxxed_Ross]

a bit

the brackets for the front brakes are done

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/302240_282595551765609_100000455006145_1004062_136 9141415_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294803_282595428432288_100000455006145_1004061_142 4175521_n.jpg

so just the centres to do now

and I finally found driveshafts that fit!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374631_302570113101486_100000455006145_1074917_839 23706_n.jpg

Once the brakes are finished I can put it all back together and haul to off to be mapped

[peterzs]

Getting there, bet you cant wait.

[vanishing days]

Looking good

[Drew]

brackets look simple enough, what was the delay on those?

so just the centres to do now

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/374631_302570113101486_100000455006145_1074917_839 23706_n.jpg


tbh id stick with some std wheels for a while as your going to pull the front wheel bearing apart getting the drive flange out.

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

the guy is going them on the side... so it's taking aaaaages! I've given him until the end of the year or I'm pulling the plug.

I was going to use standard front wheels, but they don't fit over the brakes

[Drew]

is that just the diameter of the std rims? ebay some 18/19's?

Drew

[peterzs]

See the MGCC, Safety Fast, magazine has an article on EX259, in this months mag.

I'll try and scan it in and post it up.

If you want my mag. Ross, pm your address and I'll send it up.

[Maxxed_Ross]

sorry not been online for an age!

the wheels were going to need a crazy offset to miss the callipers with them being so chunky. The BTCC rims are only 17" but after measuring the offset compaired to standard straights there was 60mm of difference!!!!

A new hub is currently being made up with a centre stud assembly, so I can still use the centrelock wheels I already have

Pete that would be ideal dude, any media is greatly appreciated!

[silver bullet]

See the MGCC, Safety Fast, magazine has an article on EX259, in this months mag.

I'll try and scan it in and post it up.

If you want my mag. Ross, pm your address and I'll send it up.

Can you post it up anyway? Even in it's own thread? Pretty Please :smile1:

[peterzs]

have to ask Ross, its winging its way up to him.

[Maxxed_Ross]

lol I'll get it online once I get home

[Ritchy]

whats happening just now anyway ross?

[Maxxed_Ross]

Given the guy that's doing the brakes until the end of the month to finish everything of I'm pulling the plug ad going somewhere else

apart from that there's not much I can do

[Drew]

end of the month is here, yay or nay?

Drew

[Maxxed_Ross]

half yay

half nay




But it's getting there lol. Dropped fome more bits off last week that were needed for the final push

[Zippy Saloon]

Got a press release about EX261 here, can scan it if you like.
No pics in it but has info on car, drivers, mechs and sponsors.

Here's the cover:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261presscover.jpg

[Maxxed_Ross]

that would be fantastic mate, thanks

[Zippy Saloon]

Sorry Ross, my dumbass orange email couldn't find the PDFs, so scanned them again:

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressfront.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261presscover-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp2.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp4.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp5.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp6.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp7.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp8.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp9.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x88/Gary_6315/ex261pressp10.jpg

The first two are covers on two cardboard folders that it came in.

[Maxxed_Ross]

that is a fantastic bit of history, thanks!

[Maxxed_Ross]

Some progress over the last week

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526672_416756268349536_100000455006145_1393467_107 7707437_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/72952_416756441682852_100000455006145_1393468_1967 21342_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535155_416756158349547_100000455006145_1393465_615 71438_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542033_413385608686602_100000455006145_1383783_180 1268455_n.jpg

[peterzs]

Meaty looking disks, you thinking of 180 set up for the backs.

[Jay-ZS+]

Very nice, seeing the one lug wheels reminds me of a lecture we had from a guy that made carbon fibre wheels for a race series, cant remember which it was off the top of my head. But they were gorgeous and light as anything!!

How big are those discs?? Any bigger and you'd need larger rims!!

[Maxxed_Ross]

Meaty looking disks, you thinking of 180 set up for the backs.

I was hoping to run the TOCA 4 pot AP set up at the back the same as the front, but the total numpty doing to work lost them :axe:

Looks like standard set up will have to do for now

Very nice, seeing the one lug wheels reminds me of a lecture we had from a guy that made carbon fibre wheels for a race series, cant remember which it was off the top of my head. But they were gorgeous and light as anything!!

How big are those discs?? Any bigger and you'd need larger rims!!

think they are 340mm but I can't remember... they're flippin heavy anyway! Hope I never have to replace a disk at £240 each :p

[sneekyparrot]

[QUOTE=Maxxed_Ross;253135]I was hoping to run the TOCA 4 pot AP set up at the back the same as the front, but the total numpty doing to work lost them :axe:

Oh man if someone had lost my ap setup I would wants Thier balls if they did not replace them! Or the chance of them receiving payment for any work done would be zero.

Makes you wonder why we start modifying cars with amount of grief they cause lol!

Paul

[Quadcam24]

Sweet as but agree with parrot about your lost rears.

[andy-81]

awesome thread loved it cant wait for the next updates

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Hope the guy who losat your brakes is gonna pay up ?
Nightmare for you mate, liking the updates though- good & bad.

[Maxxed_Ross]

still fighting about that, but he wasn't going to release any of the parts without payment so I had to pay half (still well into 4 figures by the way!) up front in good faith that it would be sorted out... but I've since found out that he's lost half the brake disk bobbins too so he has naff all chance of getting the other half now.

The callipers I had can't be bought any more, and the closest I can get are going to cost more to buy and fit than I owe him.

Lets just say I was a tad angry, and thouse of you who know me personally know it takes quite a bit to get me worked up - but I was ready to go to his unit that night and set fire to it... hopefully with him in it. Safe to say I have never been so angry.

But onwards and upwards... I'll just need to source standard callipers for the back just now

[Jay-ZS+]

Lets just say I was a tad angry, and thouse of you who know me personally know it takes quite a bit to get me worked up - but I was ready to go to his unit that night and set fire to it... hopefully with him in it. Safe to say I have never been so angry.

I dont blame you. That is shocking how could you loose them?! Some way to run a business!

[Maxxed_Ross]

the company he originally worked for "no longer required" him, he left and started his own business, got really busy and mine dragged on for nearly 17 months

Somewhere in there they got lost

[James Raby]

330mm sounds right for AP, anything over that was a "special" and ain't cheap, 430 a disc I think for oversize!

Sold my AP's from my Escort RS Turbo just a few weeks back, didn't think to ask you , sorry

[Ritchy]

is this running now ross? bar obviosly the brakes
is this going to be road legal at all? on a Q plate perhaps

[Maxxed_Ross]

330mm sounds right for AP, anything over that was a "special" and ain't cheap, 430 a disc I think for oversize!

Sold my AP's from my Escort RS Turbo just a few weeks back, didn't think to ask you , sorry

my dad measured them last night for me... 355mm x 36mm :crazy:


is this running now ross? bar obviosly the brakes
is this going to be road legal at all? on a Q plate perhaps

Not quite yet, but it's nearly there. If I wasn't spending so much time on this stupid oil rig I might be making more progress. Only had 5 days off after the last trip, then I've got 6 days off after this one before I'm back out again :slap:

Not even thinking about making it road legal. It's going to be far too much hassle and yet another car I would have to tax / insure / MOT. I seriously doubt it would pass an SVA test anyway.

[Maxxed_Ross]

Well lads, on Sat morning the biggest milestone in a long time was passed.

17 months after the suspension, hubs and brakes were stripped off to be modified - EX259 rolled out of Dreadnought on all four of its own wheels for a well earned wash in the sunshine.

The end is actually in sight at last! Big thanks to all the team at Dreadnought for their continuing support for my crazy dream, Tony at TouringCarSpares.com for his help and rapid parts supply, George for sorting me out with replacement standard rear brakes (for now anyway!)... And my dad for sorting out the saga with the brakes.

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[mhamps]

Nice looking car mate!

Matt

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Good to see it getting somewhere now, is it your plan to keep her at Dreadnought or after major work is done will she be moving in with you ?

[ZS]

Nice car... but errr... Front bumper? ;) lol

[Maxxed_Ross]

thanks lads

the front bumper is safe in the garage to prevent any more... "mishaps" while it's being pushed about

Good to see it getting somewhere now, is it your plan to keep her at Dreadnought or after major work is done will she be moving in with you ?

It'll be at Dreadnought for a bit longer - at least until the brakes are working and the last bits of fabrication are done.

It's then going to Stainless Creations in Falkirk to have some pipework required for the engine conversion finished off, the intercooler fitted and a couple of welding jobs done (the air-jacks don't look to solid, so they will be getting re-done)

Then it's off to get mapped, not too sure where yet

Finally it'll be going back to Dreadnought to get the air jacks piped up and the car set up.


Once it's finished I plan to bring it home, but I'll need to find somewhere to put it!

[Bobdope2002]

love the wheels bud

Look Good On a Proper Race Car Unlike Some Ofg THe Attempts i see round here on clapped out corsa's lol

[Maxxed_Ross]

it's amazing the difference the wheels make. It looks so much more aggressive on the Dynamics - probably due to them having a bit more of a lip on them.

Turns out the Silver OZ alloys don't actually fit any more, so dunno what to do with them. Coffee table???

[ZS]

Once it's finished I plan to bring it home, but I'll need to find somewhere to put it!

I'm sure I can find space on my drive, or in my garage... You know, if your stuck for space ;) (shame its the other end of the country from you though!) lol

Turns out the Silver OZ alloys don't actually fit any more, so dunno what to do with them. Coffee table???

You could make a couple of coffee tables then sell them on here :D:D - Top gear style maybe ;)

The car looks like it is going to be awsome when finished, but does that mean you won't be able to bring yourself to track it?

Would love to see this in the "flesh" some day :)

[Bobdope2002]

have you ever actually driven it ross????

[Maxxed_Ross]

have you ever actually driven it ross????

Nope, I've sat in it while it was being pushed once :laugh:

The car looks like it is going to be awsome when finished, but does that mean you won't be able to bring yourself to track it?

Would love to see this in the "flesh" some day :)

I'm not going through all this then wimping out at the important bit, so it will see the track at every oppertunity. I'm even considering racing it :punk:

[Maxxed_Ross]

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[stamford]

It'll be worth the toil and aggravation in the end! :D

[Nobrainer]

VERY nice. I think you should race it. Shame not to. And PoL next year?

[Nobrainer]

Nice car... but errr... Front bumper? ;) lol

I thought it was a very aggressive open grill look

[ZS]

VERY nice. I think you should race it. Shame not to. And PoL next year?

Is it even road legal? or is it trailor everywhere? ;)

[Bobdope2002]

Nope, I've sat in it while it was being pushed once :laugh:

PMSL

I bet ya cant wait drive it

[Jay-ZS+]

Nope, I've sat in it while it was being pushed once :laugh:

Well if you made exhaust and dump valves sounds whilst pretending to change gears its basically the same as driving it :bounce:

Hopefully once the brakes are sorted it will be plain sailing :thumbsup:

[Maxxed_Ross]

It'll be worth the toil and aggravation in the end! :D

Hopefully it'll be running before it runs me totally dry :greedy:

VERY nice. I think you should race it. Shame not to. And PoL next year?

All depends on my work shifts but I'll try

I thought it was a very aggressive open grill look

Helps keep the monster intercooler nice and cold :clap:

Is it even road legal? or is it trailor everywhere? ;)

not even slightly legal. It's not even got a VIN number :hmmm:

PMSL

I bet ya cant wait drive it

It'll all be worth it the first time it moves on it's own... and that better be soon because i'm fed up pushing it :thumbsdown:

Hopefully once the brakes are sorted it will be plain sailing :thumbsup:

Some of the mounting brackets have the potential to cause issues... well money and time related issues anyway. I have a plan!

I'm hoping the mapping will be simple enough, can't see why not as it's a standard T16 that's in there just now. Fingers crossed

[peterzs]

Great looking motor, what a difference from the first pics of her being trailered home.

Pleased for you after all the hassle with the brakes etc.

Lara looks good as well.

Good Dreadnought and George, plus the other good suppliers have been there for you.

Cant wait for the vid of her being out on track, with the sound on full.

:clap::clap::clap:

[ZS]

not even slightly legal. It's not even got a VIN number :hmmm:

Ahhhh so its impossible to trace it then! So no problem using it on the road as long as you outrun any police!! :D:D:D lmao (N.B. Might need regular resprays though!) :bounce::hmmm:

[Maxxed_Ross]

I'd be stuffed the first time it rained, or if I came uppon a speed bump / pot hole / small incline :laugh:

Great looking motor, what a difference from the first pics of her being trailered home.

Pleased for you after all the hassle with the brakes etc.

Lara looks good as well.

Good Dreadnought and George, plus the other good suppliers have been there for you.

Cant wait for the vid of her being out on track, with the sound on full.

:clap::clap::clap:

yeah it's advance quite a bit in 3 years :yes:

Lara is actually having major surgery just now, the rear cross member decided it didn't really want to be part of the rest of the chassis any more :wavecry:

[peterzs]

We had a P reg 110 closed back.

Door was full of holes, being ally could never understand it.

Had a trailer, pulling a ride on mower and a car decided he would give it a shove. Ifor Williams trailers are well built, no damage.

It pushed the tow bar and that wrote off the rear chassis, thought the insurance co. would write the thing off. Because they are prone to rear ends rusting away you can buy a replacement rear chassis. Cut and shut and good as new.

So much for being an off roader, first sight of mud and they rust away.

Hope Lara is sorted soon.

:clap::clap::clap:

[Maxxed_Ross]

the doors rot because the frame is steel but the skin is aluminium... the two react and you get holes in weird places lol

the rear cross member is being cut out and replaced with an off the shelf version as we speak! It's not too bad for it's age but the previous owner didn't clean it very well. It's when you get mud stuck in these places that causes issues because they are constantly damp

[peterzs]

Just a shame they didnt use a galvanised chassis, wouldnt have cost too much.

[adam]

Looking awesome Ross, I really can't wait to see this on track!

[Maxxed_Ross]

cheers mate... hopefully not that far away now

[Maxxed_Ross]

anyone know the best place to get rear braided hoses from?

[Nobrainer]

hel (http://www.brake-lines.co.uk/mg-zs-2-5-180-2001-2005-hel-brake-lines.html)

I've used these on bikes and cars. Not had any problems. Stainless fittings too.

[Maxxed_Ross]

Was looking at Goodrich hoses but most places only sell a kit for all 4 corners, I just need the back

Thanks dude will look into them

[Nobrainer]

They sell front, rear or both

[addy649]

looks really nice in white loved the pic of it with the boot open eally shows of the xpower sticker on the spoiler keep up the good work

[Maxxed_Ross]

thanks!

[Dave MGT]

You can get kits off ebay and make yout own up. I have just done this on one of my cars. Very easy to do and cheaper. Cost about £80 for all corners

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[Maxxed_Ross]

time for a nice big update

The brakes are now finished. I eventually found pads that fit the Brembo 6 pots properly and the hoses are all on and the rears have been re-furbed

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The Skunk2 camber adjusters are on the back, but it looks like I'm going to have to trim them down to allow even more camber!

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Then it was back to the experts at Stainless Creations for more custom pipework

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And back on the trailer on monday to be taken to it's top secret winter location (well until Dreadnought have space to take it back up there again!)

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So just a last bit of cooling pipework to fit, the fuel lines to connect to the rail and a few other small things to do.


Almost there!

[Dr Doggystyle]

nice !

[peterzs]

Well done, cant wait for the vid of the first start up!!!

:wizard::wizard::wizard:

[WalkerDnB]

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Love that picture looks proppa beasty :D

[Drew]

i would rotate the inlet housing so you can get the inlet pipe up between the rad and the water pipe.

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Drew

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Coming along nicely..

[Smokey]

Looks nice.

[Ritchy]

looks good, what actually needs doing to finnishit now then?

[zsserbia]

Bring it on, unleash the beast!

[andys1981]

looking great ross,cant wait to see this beast in the flesh!!

[Maxfly]

looking good Ross, nearly done at last eh:)

[Maxxed_Ross]

Thanks lads :beer2:

i would rotate the inlet housing so you can get the inlet pipe up between the rad and the water pipe.

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Drew

I don't quite get what you mean Drew. If the inlet went up between the two it would have no where to go at the top. It's all piped up nicely now and I've spent a small fortune on custom Samco hoses for it - so it's not getting changed lol

looks good, what actually needs doing to finnishit now then?

The fuel system needs finishing off and plugged into the fuel rail on the engine, the lower coolant point from the expansion bottle needs connected to something (not too sure where yet!) and the brakes need finishing off and tested.

I'm also not convinced that the clutch is working properly, it was a total swine to bleed the standard system and I still don't think it's right. Might just fit the Sheddist kit I have instead.

Oh and it needs mapped, I'm still trying to find someone with a base T series map for DTA that can be emailed :wall:

So not much really

[peterzs]

Awesome, great work and effort to get to this stage, Knockhill booked for the testing???????

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Maxxed_Ross]

funny you should say that... it is! Booked a testing day in March

[andys1981]

what date in march mate?

[peterzs]

Site meet, I reckon, if Ross wouldnt mind.

Scotland in the Spring, sounds good.

:group::group::group:

Nothing like a bit of pressure to push the job along.

:bow::bow::bow: