Derv mileage.

[peterzs]

After a trip up to Zed 10 last week and a trip out to Athelhampton House, today, thought I would check my mpg.

Left a bit later than planned, so to get to Clacket Lane Services went to the max allowed.

It comes back as 45.00 mpg. but considering it was a fairly fast run up and down, quite pleased.

Have to wait for Dan to check his now and see what the SDi's do.

:smile1::smile1::smile1:

[Bobdope2002]

ive put ?30 of LPG in mine this afternoon which got me about 40 odd litres

gonna see how far this will get me

[roverdave81]

My derv averaged over a 1000 mile trip which 600 of them where motor way the other 400 round town 51mpg was well please wit that as my 180 2year ago did t same trip an I averaged 29mpg

[Dan1971]

Steady figure Pete .... I'll post mine up probably during next week. I'm on 300 at the moment and just over half the guage left but as we all know, it drops quicker on the second half !

[peterzs]

LPG seems the way to go, thats until the gov. decides there are too many people going for it. Tax suddenly will bite your ***.

Remember a few years ago derv was a lot cheaper than petrol to get people to run dervs, now they do, derv is dearer than petrol. Takes less to refine it, so why???

I thought I would be 50 + mpg, but I do tend to push the revs up a bit.

Cant wait for your results Dan, might make me fit the SDi's!!!!

:):):)

[Bobdope2002]

with these new springs on i have a feeling the LPG with disappear quickly as i wanna hanging about today feels so much more planted on the road

[peterzs]

with these new springs on i have a feeling the LPG with disappear quickly as i wanna hanging about today feels so much more planted on the road

Reckon you will be back down to the high twenties, but a big grin as well.

Bit like my derv.

:):):):)

[Bobdope2002]

Reckon you will be back down to the high twenties, but a big grin as well.

Bit like my derv.

:):):):)

doubt it'l be that low lol

im loving it at the min

need the wheels refurbing next (probs black lol)

[peterzs]

I'm cr*p at parking!!!! The wheels were all curbed when I bought it and I just add to the damage.

So bad, I painted over all the bashed up rims, but it still looks like a mad axe man has been up them. :axe::axe:

Dont know how some people can keep them like new, know if I had them painted/refurbed they would soon be bashed up!!

Even outside our house, trying to be carefull, cruuuuuuuuuuunch, I know you can look in the mirrors etc. but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:):):)

[Bobdope2002]

I'm cr*p at parking!!!! The wheels were all curbed when I bought it and I just add to the damage.

So bad, I painted over all the bashed up rims, but it still looks like a mad axe man has been up them. :axe::axe:

Dont know how some people can keep them like new, know if I had them painted/refurbed they would soon be bashed up!!

Even outside our house, trying to be carefull, cruuuuuuuuuuunch, I know you can look in the mirrors etc. but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:):):)

Old Age :p

[peterzs]

Too true, I'm afraid.

:zorro::zorro::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Dan1971]

Went in early just for you Pete ..... And bear in mind that I've been messing about a wee bit .......

Covered 361 miles and put 35L in.

Therefore 35 x .22 = 7.7

361 divided by 7.7 = 46.8 mpg


:rofl:

[peterzs]

Cheers Dan, sounds like we arnt far off.

I know the run up to Zed 10 was a bit quick, think I will have a try of the injectors and see what it feels like.

Least Reidies not too far from me, if I think it needs a tweak or two on the mapping side.

Then a quick RR to try and beat 151.2!!!!!

:cool2::cool2::wave::wave:

[Dan1971]

Cheers Dan, sounds like we arnt far off.

I know the run up to Zed 10 was a bit quick, think I will have a try of the injectors and see what it feels like.

Least Reidies not too far from me, if I think it needs a tweak or two on the mapping side.

Then a quick RR to try and beat 151.2!!!!!

:cool2::cool2::wave::wave:

Good luck ...... :cool2:

[peterzs]

Let you know!!!

[Alan.F]

my tourer 75 is averaging about 46mpg which i dont think is to bad fo a car of that weight but its down to 32mpg towing my caravan lol

[peterzs]

Cant complain about the 46mpg, bet a lot on here wouldnt mind the 32 mpg!!!

:hooray::hooray::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Dan1971]

...... bet a lot on here wouldnt mind the 32 mpg!!!

:hooray::hooray::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I would !

[peterzs]

Yer, but you are one of the lucky ones!!!!

;););)

[andys1981]

just wish i could get my hands on a diesel,been searching for a diesel,with the 180 kit but cant really find anything,next cars defo a diesel

[peterzs]

just wish i could get my hands on a diesel,been searching for a diesel,with the 180 kit but cant really find anything,next cars defo a diesel

When you go for a test drive in one and it doesnt want to pull, most likely be the MAF sensor gone. Easy to change ?75 odd if you get one like Dan.

I was just having a chat with a guy who had bought a ZS Derv, was disappointed in it until he changed the MAF, now it goes as it should.

:wave:

[p_b82]

got 50mpg in my last fill up in mine over 500miles from the tank :)

[peterzs]

got 50mpg in my last fill up in mine over 500miles from the tank :)


Feather foot Pete, I reckon.

:clap::clap::clap:

[p_b82]

heheh maybe - only need 30% throttle to get on the wrong side of the boys in blue.... but it is actually dropping my mway cruising rpm by around 200-250 that is making the 5mpg difference to what i usually get... can't wait to see how much i can get this to drop when i can use my full lead boot again :)

tho annoying an audi driver coming home last night as i pulled onto the M4 probably wont have helped this tankful :)

It is the one massive thing i love about the L-series, unless you drive like it was stolen even in a high level of tune we still get good mpg....

[Dan1971]

Just been doing a comparison of sorts.

Anyway -

10,000 at 47mpg for a diesel at ?1.41 = Fuel cost of ?1363.47 ish.

(Approx 212.7 gallons which is 967 litres = 1363.47)

10,000 at 27mpg in a 180 at ?1.36 a litre = Fuel cost of ?2290.24 ish

(Approx 370.5 gallons which is 1684 litres = 2290.24)

Insurance - for me anyway -
Diesel = ?350
180 = ?450

Tax -
Diesel = ?130
180 = ?245


So a years driving a Diesel is roughly - ?926.77 cheaper on fuel and ?215 cheaper on tax and insurance

Total - ?1141.77 .........

Clearly as things go up - the diesel becomes even cheaper - but as mileage goes down so will the savings.

:hmmm:

[p_b82]

yeah - thankfully i do mostly business miles now so i tend to get myself an even better deal out of not doing so many miles....

thinking of getting the GF a new car off a mate (an 09 plate) that is petrol but still does 40mpg... it is however 2 insurance groups higher than a standard derv ZS!

[andys1981]

Just been doing a comparison of sorts.

Anyway -

10,000 at 47mpg for a diesel at ?1.41 = Fuel cost of ?1363.47 ish.

(Approx 212.7 gallons which is 967 litres = 1363.47)

10,000 at 27mpg in a 180 at ?1.36 a litre = Fuel cost of ?2290.24 ish

(Approx 370.5 gallons which is 1684 litres = 2290.24)

Insurance - for me anyway -
Diesel = ?350
180 = ?450

Tax -
Diesel = ?130
180 = ?245


So a years driving a Diesel is roughly - ?926.77 cheaper on fuel and ?215 cheaper on tax and insurance

Total - ?1141.77 .........

Clearly as things go up - the diesel becomes even cheaper - but as mileage goes down so will the savings.

:hmmm:

thats awesome dan,i really need to do something like this,trouble is finding one in a garage,thats got the kit and a saloon!!

[Dan1971]

yeah - thankfully i do mostly business miles now so i tend to get myself an even better deal out of not doing so many miles....

thinking of getting the GF a new car off a mate (an 09 plate) that is petrol but still does 40mpg... it is however 2 insurance groups higher than a standard derv ZS!

I've got a real draw to a new Fabia VRS .....

180 bhp 7 sp auto - Petrol turbo and supercharged 1.4. - 7.3 secs 0-60 - Combined mpg of 45.6

[mattie007]

got 50mpg in my last fill up in mine over 500miles from the tank :)

Not sounding rude, but doesnt the ZS tank hold 12g? So to get 50mpg you would need to do around 600 to a tank?
Best I ever got from the 120 was 550 miles driving at no more than 60 though! Still, 45 mpg from a 1.8 saloon isn't bad!

[p_b82]

the tank is larger yes, but i did not need to fill it only 47 L ;)

[daytona365]

Just been doing a comparison of sorts.

Anyway -

10,000 at 47mpg for a diesel at ?1.41 = Fuel cost of ?1363.47 ish.

(Approx 212.7 gallons which is 967 litres = 1363.47)

10,000 at 27mpg in a 180 at ?1.36 a litre = Fuel cost of ?2290.24 ish

(Approx 370.5 gallons which is 1684 litres = 2290.24)

Insurance - for me anyway -
Diesel = ?350
180 = ?450



Tax -
Diesel = ?130
180 = ?245


So a years driving a Diesel is roughly - ?926.77 cheaper on fuel and ?215 cheaper on tax and insurance

Total - ?1141.77 .........

Clearly as things go up - the diesel becomes even cheaper - but as mileage goes down so will the savings.

:hmmm:

Very thirsty 180 you got. I get 35 out of mine. My insurance is only 380. Plus you forgetting one BIG plus factor to the 180.............THE HORNY NOISE. That is worth the extra pennies. Its like the wife wearing knitted cardies to bed to save on heating, save money, but boy does she look ugly!!!!!! :boxing::boxing::boxing:

[peterzs]

Very thirsty 180 you got. I get 35 out of mine. My insurance is only 380. Plus you forgetting one BIG plus factor to the 180.............THE HORNY NOISE. That is worth the extra pennies. Its like the wife wearing knitted cardies to bed to save on heating, save money, but boy does she look ugly!!!!!! :boxing::boxing::boxing:


Specially when 5 are going through a tunnel!!!!

:wizard::wizard::wizard:;););)

[Dan1971]

...... I get 35 out of mine. ......... Its like the wife wearing knitted cardies to bed to save on heating, save money, but boy does she look ugly!!!!!! :boxing::boxing::boxing:

Well ..... Then you drive like a girl and clothes don't make a woman ugly .....

Nowt wrong with cardigans !!!

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/danlaualex/Cardigan-Model-2011-222x300.jpg

[peterzs]

Or jeans!!!!

[mattie007]

How big is the derv tank then?

[p_b82]

it is 55L on all ZS as per the haynes book of lies...

[vanishing days]

I get 34 mpg on my 180 have got 39 on a run before but the concentration nearly gave me an anurism!

[daytona365]

She not my cup of tea. Needs to be blonde, and the cardy still makes her look ugly. Now if she was to take it off, plus everything else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still back to real topic. 10mpg and 180 noise still better than 50mpg and taxi.

[andy666]

I'm cr*p at parking!!!! The wheels were all curbed when I bought it and I just add to the damage.

So bad, I painted over all the bashed up rims, but it still looks like a mad axe man has been up them. :axe::axe:

Dont know how some people can keep them like new, know if I had them painted/refurbed they would soon be bashed up!!

Even outside our house, trying to be carefull, cruuuuuuuuuuunch, I know you can look in the mirrors etc. but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:):):)

Park about 2 foot from the kerb ! Thats what i do , my wife always says "can you call me a taxi to get to the kerb" yeah very funny but my alloys are spotless ! (unlike the ones on her car ! )

[p_b82]

the problem with that where i used to live, is that if i left it that far from the Kerb the bin lorry or even a trasnit would take out the mirrors or worse....

was a tough choice of ' wreck the mirros etc or risk a curb scuff....

parallel parking was no fun either as you could not swing the front end out properly either as just not enough space....

Now however i have moved and the ZS lives on the Drive :D

[peterzs]

Park about 2 foot from the kerb ! Thats what i do , my wife always says "can you call me a taxi to get to the kerb" yeah very funny but my alloys are spotless ! (unlike the ones on her car ! )

I always get caught out backing up, I put it down to our road being bent and the curve catches me out. Thats even though it looks straight.

Wheels really knackered, but Ive just painted over the worse parts with the starlight sparkle paint.

:beer2::beer2:

[andy666]

I always get caught out backing up, I put it down to our road being bent and the curve catches me out. Thats even though it looks straight.

Wheels really knackered, but Ive just painted over the worse parts with the starlight sparkle paint.

:beer2::beer2:

I know what you mean , the sister in law lives right on a bend in the road and the curve has almost caught me out a couple of times ! Anyway back on topic , best i have done is 144 miles from ?20 at 135.9 a litre (120+) Any good? Nowhere near what a TD could get i suppose

[peterzs]

Think we need Dan, or some other clever one, to work out mpg, too early for me, or too complicated, dont know which.

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[p_b82]

?20 = 2000p

so that is 2000/135.9 = 14.7 L

144/14.7 =9.8mpl
9.8*4.54 = 44mpg

the problem with that is that it is not very accurate, as the tank and guages are never even etc... you need to do it with a 'brim to brim' test to really know....

if it is accurate though it is exceptional mpg :)

[Dan1971]

Think we need Dan, or some other clever one, to work out mpg, too early for me, or too complicated, dont know which.

:whistle::whistle::whistle:

Bless ....

All I do is measure how many litres I put in and how many miles I got up until that point. Reset your trip next time you fill up, and then when you do, take note of the litres you put in - not the cost.

So - 45 litres in for example. 45 x .22 = 9.9

Miles covered = 350 therefore miles per gallon is 350 divided by 9.9 = 35.3mpg

[andy666]

Bless ....

All I do is measure how many litres I put in and how many miles I got up until that point. Reset your trip next time you fill up, and then when you do, take note of the litres you put in - not the cost.

So - 45 litres in for example. 45 x .22 = 9.9

Miles covered = 350 therefore miles per gallon is 350 divided by 9.9 = 35.3mpg

Thanks to you and p b82, i will do some maths next time i hand over some cash to the treasury! Approx 44mpg not bad ! But i do drive like Miss Daisy is in the back .

[peterzs]

Hi Dan, tried to reset my trip two or three times and failed.

Need a how to, I'm afraid, Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wave: :santa:

[Dan1971]

Hi Dan, tried to reset my trip two or three times and failed.

Need a how to, I'm afraid, Doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wave: :santa:

Eh !!! You are kidding me !!!

[peterzs]

No!!! I tried pulling the little knob out, it goes to 0000 and then doesnt do anything??????

[Dan1971]

No!!! I tried pulling the little knob out, it goes to 0000 and then doesnt do anything??????

Press it once and it alternates between trip and actual mileage. Get it onto trip and then hold it in. It will then zero........Bless.

[peterzs]

Cheers Dan, us Oldies eh!!!!

:santa::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::rambo::rambo:

[Jem]

When i first got mine i thought well thats good im turning it to the right and nothing turning to the left and nothing,Took a bit for me to figure out i had to push and hold for a second or two.

[p_b82]

hmm if it were not for the fact it was 3am i would really try and find a 'facepalm' emoticon :laugh:

[Jem]

Will this do http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/Djoker00/Emoticon/212879.gif

[zsserbia]

Cheers Dan, us Oldies eh!!!!

:santa::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::rambo::rambo:

You should try the BMW i-drive system lol

[zsserbia]

Say, is there an option for a gauge test mode on a zs? I've seen zt has one...

[peterzs]

You should try the BMW i-drive system lol

I was reading a Car mag, when I was waiting for grand son in the orthodontic's yesterday, had i-3, and a i-8 they were looking at.

i-3 168 bhp electric motor!! very quick 0-60mph

http://www.bmw-i.co.uk/en_gb/bmw-i3/?WT.mc_id=s_ggl_uk_phase2

i-8 electric motor plus 220 bhp engine

http://www.bmw-i.co.uk/en_gb/bmw-i8/?WT.mc_id=s_ggl_uk_phase2

Never heard about this new BMW idea, but reading the mag one thing that would worry me is that the i-8 has a pedestrian protection system, where it will come to a stop, by itself if it senses someone is in the way.

First thought would be its ideal for a car thief, 1st one jumps out in front of it and it will stop and the 2nd one could be at the drivers door. Also I hope there would be an override option. After the riots of last week, would be the last place where you would want the pedestrian friendly mod to kick in, as you were trying to get out of their way!!!

They have self parking, and drive themselves below 25 mph, science fiction come to life. Joe 90 here I come!!!

:smile2::smile2::smile2::smile2:

[zsserbia]

Yeah, I've seen the i-3 and i-8 in a car mag recently as well, quite impressive, no wonder bmw's forward thinking is a subject of criticism quite often, seems you really need a 14 year old to set up your i-drive system, like Clarkson once said...

As for self parking, self driving and similar gadgets, call me old-fashioned but it really isn't my cup of tea. Some things really need to be kept fairly simple, imho... Alternative fuel I fully support though.

[peterzs]

Got my trip recorder working.

Who says, you cant teach old dogs, etc.

:whistle::whistle::whistle::whistle: :zorro::zorro: