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With all of my cars I have one huge regret and that is swapping my ZS out for this stupid crappy 75...
I am at the stage now where I want another ZS 180... and I think it has to be a Saloon Mk2! (Had a Mk1 Hatch and a Mk1 Saloon already)
I don't have a huge amount to spend on one though so I might be stuck with the 75 for a while.
TBH the 75 is not that bad and I've now "ironed out" most, if not all, of the bugs... but my goodness have I fallen out of love with the car now! When I get around to selling it the new owner will get a well sorted car... its just not the car for me...
So, what are your biggest regrets within your car history? and why? :)
oh... and I saw this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-ZS-2-5-180-2005-55-face-lift-vented-front-wings-65k-miles-/180847538309?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a1b5a7085 - damn wish I had the money... lol
mattie007
26-03-12, 08:09 PM
Never buying a 180 when petrol was 'cheap'!
I kinda regret getting rid of my mk1 120 in trophy blue S much as I love my 180 I still feel sad when I look at a picture of the old car what I would say is my biggest regret is that I waited to long to learn to drive I should have done it when I was 17 instead of 21 .
welshone
26-03-12, 08:15 PM
Getting rid of the BRM and not waiting for the right ZS I'm still not feeling this TB :(
stamford
26-03-12, 08:15 PM
Interesting you saying that Sam, I really thought you had made the right decision due to the requirements for everyday life. It's good to hear that former owners always miss them and come back, just shows what a great car they really are. On paper they are not much to write about but when driven you get a totally different view on it.
As for previous selling mistakes, yes I've had plenty and those that stick out the most was my HSX Chevette and my Vauxhall Firenza, both worth a bit now. That's the reason why I still have the ZS after nearly 7 years as I would regret it if I sold it.
Dan1971
26-03-12, 08:17 PM
Is there a limit ?
Off the top of my head - selling my Black Mk1 saloon for the Red Mk2 hatch. Just wasn't the same. I saw the Red - alcantara interior - and just thought yep - got to have it.
But, when I got it home and looked at the two of them, I just wanted to keep the Mk1. It just felt more - me. But, the Mk2 was bought and paid for and the Mk1 sold to a nice chap who's on here now and again and when he came for it and drove it away I was honestly - sad.
Over a chunk of metal - Go figure that out .....
petet16
26-03-12, 08:17 PM
That's a very nice example in your ebay link.
big_wasa
26-03-12, 08:17 PM
They are down to daft money.
Been watching a few and have just passed this..180
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260985570203?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
As my other thread I to want a mk2.
Ive come to the conclusion the mk2 is better looking with a newer reg but the mk1 is better built
stamford
26-03-12, 08:19 PM
Mk1 build with mk2 mods ftw.
Mk1 build with mk2 mods ftw.
Ahem... My Mk1 180 with the MK2 mods, used to get loads of talk at work... everyone at work were shocked when I got rid of it, they all liked it.
I think the XPower Duel exit exhausts were exceptionally good when mixed with the BMC for noise and looks :)
TBH with everything thats going on in my life (family issues etc) I miss having something that was my "slice of luxury" - still really should pay off the credit cards before buying another...
Now if I could get £5k for the tourer.... ;) lol
Well its either that or I go buy myself a 650 Bandit... or maybe a VFR800... or... lmao
peterzs
26-03-12, 08:30 PM
Smacking my Sunbeam Talbot 90 Mk2 into Stains roundabout, be worth a few bob now!!!
My derv ZS still makes me smile when I walk back to it in a car park, its normally parked on its own, as far as I can get it away from other cars!!!
:clap::clap::clap:
Interesting you saying that Sam, I really thought you had made the right decision due to the requirements for everyday life.
A few facts that might shock you.
I pay more in insurance for the 75 Tourer than I did for the modified ZS 180.
The 180 was better fuel economy round town (when driven sensibly - of course motorway driving the 75 wins hands down)
the 75 *feels* more than twice as heavy as the zs did... in reality its probably only 1.5 times as heavy
I could fit more into the ZS Saloon boot than I can into the 75 tourer with the load cover accross (of course without it thats not the case)
I could fit three child seats into the back of the ZS saloon... I can't quite do it in the 75!
It cost me £85 to fill up the tank in the 75 yesterday, and that was only 400 miles I had done since last fillup - the ZS in comparrison used to do 320 miles to £50 (but I am compairing prices from 6 months ago to today)
The 75 is a CDT Diesel... surely this should be mega epic fuel consumption and cheaper insurance????
peterzs
26-03-12, 08:34 PM
Long as you dont chip them, ZS
Long as you dont chip them, ZS
Its better now its chipped... but still not where I would like it to be!
high 20's low 30's round town... before it was chipped it was mid to high 20's...
used to be high 40's low 50's on motorways... after chip its now roughly 55 mpg motorway driving
Oh! and I still get much more enjoyment out of my MG F than I do out of the 75 :p lol I think maybe I shouldn't be a Diesel driver??
stamford
26-03-12, 08:41 PM
You would think the diesel 75 would be cheaper allround, I am somewhat surprised and disappointed as I wouldn't mind one but after this probably not.
You would think the diesel 75 would be cheaper allround, I am somewhat surprised and disappointed as I wouldn't mind one but after this probably not.
Owners on the other site are suggesting that my injectors either need cleaning or replacing... they have suggested putting some millers into it... millers what I don't know, changing the fuel filter yesterday for the correct type may have helped, I will find out soon I guess... they say high 40's round town and high 50's motorway driving should be expected...
This particular car I am sorting out, but I think was let down by **** poor maintenance by the previous owners mechanic (the guy who owned before won't touch anything mechanical and trusts his local mechanic) so another 75 cdt might be much better...
TBH the car is much better than it was when I got it as well (you had to wear brown trousers then to pull out into traffic... dead MAF) its just that now I can only see the negative with the car and am all outta love for it I think... maybe once I start recouping some of the lost money back again and iron out any remaing bugs that things will get better for this relationship (thats what it is! a relationship between you and a car..) but we will see when it goes in for its MOT in a few weeks!
Dan1971
26-03-12, 08:51 PM
ZS - the thing is mate - you've got rid of what was one of the best Mk1s on this site and you know that. You went sensible and maybe weren't ready. No fettling with injectors is going to change that.
What will change it is Alan's Orange Grove 180 !
stamford
26-03-12, 08:54 PM
True, we have all been there and made 'sensible' purchases only to regret it and think why the hell did I do that! Look on the plus side, you can still get a good ZS and you will find an owner for the Tourer once sorted i'm sure.
ZS - the thing is mate - you've got rid of what was one of the best Mk1s on this site and you know that. You went sensible and maybe weren't ready. No fettling with injectors is going to change that.
What will change it is Alan's Orange Grove 180 !
Unless he'd do a swap for the 75 its a wee bit out of my price range... and Bolton is a long way away to get a car ;) - however it is a very nice looking car and I have been tempted when looking at the ad a few times...
peterzs
26-03-12, 08:58 PM
I always put a couple of cupfulls of Millers Power Sport 4, into a full tank of Derv.
Its suppose to up the cetane by up to 4 numbers.
increases power by 17.5% more bhp
increases mpg by 7%
reduces emissions up to 70% less exhaust smoke, 20% less carbon
cleans injectors.
As it says on the bottle!!!!! Is a bit pricey £11.49 but treats 10 x 50 ltr tanks.
I have a policy of only doing stupid things. I don't think Ill ever sell the ZS, I was just commenting on another site about how I don't think Ive ever gotten out of it not grinning like a lunatic.
I do regret taking my old escort off road, though. Ive still got it locked away, but it'll need a bit of work to get back on the road. I might make it into a track car, but no matter how much I throw at it, it'll never be as good as a standard ZS around a track. I do have a policy of doing stupid things, though... did I mention that?
I regret getting rid of this the guy i sold it to has wrecked it and as far as i know its now dead.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/FatGit/My%20180/IMG_0025.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/FatGit/My%20180/IMG_0027.jpg
The ZS is the best car ive owned i think i made the right decision getting a diesel but wrong colour,Would like to have a colour that stands out.
Waiting for a reply from peter about his colour........ lol
tb steve
26-03-12, 10:22 PM
worse regret was selling all of my mini's
850cc
1000cc
and the beast 1430cc (hate to think what this would be worth now)
try and find a nice one for less than £1500
andys1981
26-03-12, 10:36 PM
worst regret was getting rid of my zs and buying a zr,shes looking good the now,but i will have a 180 again,really miss her lol
LozMachine
26-03-12, 11:06 PM
Smacking my Sunbeam Talbot 90 Mk2 into Stains roundabout, be worth a few bob now!!
Haha my old man has been restoring one of those for like the last 30 years!! lol 1950's Sunbeam Talbot Mk2A , remember when he brought it home there was like nothing left from the waistline down! Hmmmm think i will have to go take some pics :ninja:
Nobrainer
26-03-12, 11:54 PM
I regret not stealing a car when I was young enough to get away with it :-)
MG 53 ZED
27-03-12, 05:53 AM
:slap: I regreat buying a Skoda Rapide (think it was called a Rapide) many years ago what a heap of junk.
peterzs
27-03-12, 07:46 AM
The ZS is the best car ive owned i think i made the right decision getting a diesel but wrong colour,Would like to have a colour that stands out.
Waiting for a reply from peter about his colour........ lol
Hi Jem, Trophy Yellow stands out a bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:wave:
peterzs
27-03-12, 08:01 AM
Haha my old man has been restoring one of those for like the last 30 years!! lol 1950's Sunbeam Talbot Mk2A , remember when he brought it home there was like nothing left from the waistline down! Hmmmm think i will have to go take some pics :ninja:
About a month before the roundabout I took the front o/s out.
Went to a scrap yard, got the steering arm, plus other steering bits, new front wing and a couple of new wheels and tyres.
All for £1.50.
Parked up were three Vauxhall Crestas, looked immaculate, asked why they were there. All the floors were rusted out along the sills, only hanging on by the front and rear bulkheads.
The Talbot was scrapped as I managed to hit the same area twice, took it in to be tracked up and the great H beam chassis was cracked. In those days they didnt weld or plate up damage.:oops:
Get some pics up, my one was shiny black, white sidewall tyres!!! Apart from a sky blue o/s/f wing!!!
:wave:
zsserbia
27-03-12, 12:50 PM
I regret getting rid of this the guy i sold it to has wrecked it and as far as i know its now dead.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/FatGit/My%20180/IMG_0025.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b259/FatGit/My%20180/IMG_0027.jpg
Nice one, that. At least you kept the alloys, are these I've seen on the grove one?
Burrelly
27-03-12, 02:02 PM
Hmm would be not doing my car test until I was 25. What can I say i love my bikes though.
buying the 180, should of gone for the s4 i was looking at instead. Cost me a fortune to repair due to the many issues, now its running sweet but kinda lost heart with it. Add that to rover going under and the value of the car quartering in value overnight seems a bit of a financial regret (still looks great though :) ) , now i have no part ex value to put against anything decent so kind of stuck with the car of have to go for something boring.
Captain Slow
27-03-12, 03:19 PM
Mine is selling my Elise-despite costing a fortune to run-it'd be paid off and completely mine by now, and I miss driving it like mad. The MGF Trophy just isn't the same :(
Squeaks
27-03-12, 03:27 PM
I have afew,
Buying the Mk2 180 ( worst car ive ever owned due to it being rubbish )
Selling my Mk1 180 ( will never forgive myself for that )
Not being quicker with a yellow Mk2 diesel, ( I had agreed the sale and was about to leave to go get it when the chap calls saying he has sold it to a trader )
Selling my MGF Trophy :(
Captain Slow
27-03-12, 04:04 PM
I have afew,
Buying the Mk2 180 ( worst car ive ever owned due to it being rubbish )
Selling my Mk1 180 ( will never forgive myself for that )
Not being quicker with a yellow Mk2 diesel, ( I had agreed the sale and was about to leave to go get it when the chap calls saying he has sold it to a trader )
Selling my MGF Trophy :(
Why did you sell the Trophy?
john180
27-03-12, 05:36 PM
A few facts that might shock you.
I pay more in insurance for the 75 Tourer than I did for the modified ZS 180.
The 180 was better fuel economy round town (when driven sensibly - of course motorway driving the 75 wins hands down)
the 75 *feels* more than twice as heavy as the zs did... in reality its probably only 1.5 times as heavy
I could fit more into the ZS Saloon boot than I can into the 75 tourer with the load cover accross (of course without it thats not the case)
I could fit three child seats into the back of the ZS saloon... I can't quite do it in the 75!
It cost me £85 to fill up the tank in the 75 yesterday, and that was only 400 miles I had done since last fillup - the ZS in comparrison used to do 320 miles to £50 (but I am compairing prices from 6 months ago to today)
The 75 is a CDT Diesel... surely this should be mega epic fuel consumption and cheaper insurance????
have a mooch at mine mate - i have a twilight ZS now - the only reason this is going really..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150783575182?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Nice one, that. At least you kept the alloys, are these I've seen on the grove one?
Yes m8 they are but a bit worse for wear atm :)
Maxxed_Ross
27-03-12, 06:18 PM
I regret selling my ZS. I only had it just over a year but I kinda lost faith after it only made a 3bhp increase over standard after I spent thousands on it. Looking back I should have kept it a bit longer as it was a fantastic car, was mechanically solid and was in a fairly rare spec with really low miles as it was on of the MG factory cars that had been stashed away when they collapsed.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11559_102299136461919_100000455006145_59555_239673 8_n.jpg
That and fitting the extreme spoiler to it. It was just before the whole Euro look thing really gained momentum and I've since seen a load of really nice saloons with no spoiler.
Second has to be my first Defender.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13541_101522396539593_100000455006145_39154_412748 4_n.jpg
It was a really nice Defender with key mods already done - but mainly due to my in-experiance with Defenders and buying it purely as a toy... I wrecked it. Too much heavy offroading and 2 rather hefty accidents later it was in need of alot of repair time that I couldn't justify giving it.
Third has to be the Astravan that replaced it. it was a fantastic looking van, was soooo practical and it got attention where ever it went - even just down to the local shops!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249516_219608248064340_100000455006145_776291_5531 065_n.jpg
But it's undoing was that gutless 1.7cdti engine. Going from driving Susan's remapped 200bhp 1.9cdti to a baby 117bhp 1.7cdti was a killer and I got bored with it really quickly - again after spending a small fortune on it!
There seems to be a trend here...
Bobdope2002
27-03-12, 06:31 PM
i miss my MK1 120 wish id never ever sold it
Car i Regret.......... the 110 ive got now just really doesn't feel right.../....cud be just that im worried drive it anywhere bcus of the gears but hoping in the next few weeks have that issue sorted
talkingcars
27-03-12, 07:50 PM
My biggest automotive regret is spending far too long on forums and not on my cars.
Second is proberbly to do with my T16 but that is an old story covered else where before.
Boot Hill Bandit
27-03-12, 08:03 PM
True, we have all been there and made 'sensible' purchases only to regret it and think why the hell did I do that! Look on the plus side, you can still get a good ZS and you will find an owner for the Tourer once sorted i'm sure.
yep still ******* kicking myself!
have a mooch at mine mate - i have a twilight ZS now - the only reason this is going really..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150783575182?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Thats a lovely looking car... but a huge distance to travel just to look at it! I wont buy another car without looking at it first...
Squeaks
27-03-12, 09:35 PM
Why did you sell the Trophy?
Bought a TF160
daytona365
27-03-12, 09:52 PM
My only regret in all my car history, is selling my MK2 Escort RS1800. I was only 19 and couldnt afford to get it repaired. Scrap for peanuts. Only car (apart from the ZS) that I actually cared for. The others were loved when owned, but not missed once they went.
I am never selling my TY ZS, know I would never find another. He is mine, more than just metal and rubber. An extension of my personality. Even if I do get my DAYTONA, I will still keep the ZS.
Captain Peanut
27-03-12, 10:01 PM
Only 2 real regrets:
The first was letting heart rule head and buying a BMW 318ti Compact in M Sport guise a few years back. The HPI was crippling and has left me with debts that I'm still paying back despite the car being long gone. Was a bloody hoot to drive though, especially late night sideways action :whistle:
The second was not shopping around more before buying the ZS. I don't regret buying it per se but now realise that I could probably have got a lot more for my money with some more research. That said I was on a tight schedule due to the insurance company taking the hire car away and it's given me a perfect rolling project.
petet16
27-03-12, 10:02 PM
Just think how much a mk2 RS1800 goes for now, scary.
*lukey*
28-03-12, 12:33 AM
missing my little 106 gti i had, was a right little slut and loved being ragged!.
was striped out with just buckets in it. went like stink, and could I've a zs a run for its money, and sounded soooooo good, had a 2" pugsport on its and was so raspy!!
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q101/monkeyboy2006_2006/DSC_0367.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q101/monkeyboy2006_2006/Unsorted09325.jpg
don't get me wrong i love my zs, its comfortable and i don't spend every weekend fixing it, but the little puggy was fun :/
Give a ZS110 a run for its money maybe ;) lol
Maxxed_Ross
28-03-12, 08:53 AM
until it falls apart
carmadbaker
28-03-12, 09:55 AM
until it falls apart
Lmfao! He had the best sticker ever on it....
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/dan4bex/90560227.jpg
My biggest regret was building the ZS turbo, should of kept the money and bought an Exige S or a supercharged Elise :-(
Is that an escort gti in the background? Underpowered for their size, but I liked em. Id still have a nice RS2k
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q101/monkeyboy2006_2006/DSC_0367.jpg
Captain Slow
28-03-12, 11:15 AM
That 106GTI would give a ZS180 something to think about-sweet little cars! Shame most of them have been modded/ragged now, I'd love an original, low mileage one.
*lukey*
31-03-12, 06:46 AM
Yea every thing fell off it, it was french after all, thats why i striped it, saves things falling off. i would deffinatly give a zed a run for it money, will never top end it as it was only a little 1.6 but quater mile runs would be very close.
I also regret you biulding your turbo dan..........
May have to get one as a track car one day :)
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