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James Raby
22-04-12, 05:24 PM
i.e , resonator box so it allows more air in (possibly using foglight apperture)

did it on my Escort RS Turbo and made a huge difference, surely must be able to see good results from this?

OR...

Am I wrong?

sneekyparrot
22-04-12, 05:58 PM
Yep but the stock filter will still only flow so much unless u change the panel filter as well.
P.

James Raby
22-04-12, 06:26 PM
Yep but the stock filter will still only flow so much unless u change the panel filter as well.
P.

ITG or K&N/Pipercross panel filter, surely a cost effective mod...

big_wasa
22-04-12, 06:32 PM
Home made inner wing induction wouldnt cost much more tha a K&n panel.

James Raby
22-04-12, 06:33 PM
Home made inner wing induction wouldnt cost much more tha a K&n panel.

Thought about it, but wouldnt know where to start LOL

KirkJames
22-04-12, 07:50 PM
Thought about it, but wouldnt know where to start LOL
I may be doing an inner wing setup next month James if you fancy doing them together?

3 x 90 degree silicone elbows (black) + Jubilee Clips
3 x Plastic hose connectors
1 x Breather Filter
1 x Cone Filter (Not a really expensive jobby)

Priced it all up to around the £60 mark.

R8NMG
22-04-12, 08:14 PM
I once took the pipe off between the filter box and the resonator box. Probably very minor difference in power and sound.

talkingcars
22-04-12, 08:40 PM
I once took the pipe off between the filter box and the resonator box. Probably very minor difference in power and sound.

and more chance of sucking a puddle into the engine!

MG ZS STE
22-04-12, 08:42 PM
I have, got some pics somewhere. Will but em up tomorrow.

grimmy
22-04-12, 08:46 PM
and more chamge of sucking a puddle into the engine!

My car ran without that for years and never had any problems with water ingress and I live where we don't have hosepipe bans if you get my drift.

Fred68
22-04-12, 08:51 PM
The factory 180 air filter was designed for the 2 liter 45 so is to small for the 2.5 Kv6 also being mounted behind the rad is subject to excess heat soak so a kind of double whammy for power production !!

James Raby
22-04-12, 09:47 PM
Kirk, yes - talk to me

Fred, aware of this but can't see what suggestion you're making?

KirkJames
22-04-12, 11:15 PM
Yeah will do mate, provided the damn MOT doesn't end up costing me an arm and a leg.
Should be getting a bonus from work tho so should still be able to get it done.

Fred68
23-04-12, 11:19 AM
Kirk, yes - talk to me

Fred, aware of this but can't see what suggestion you're making?

The point is not to bother wasting your money with a simple panel filter replacement in the factory housing as there is not enough filter area for maximum power and what air does get through has it's power producing ability further reduced due to heat soak!! Better to go for the remote filter as mentioned!! The cost is comparable!!

MG ZS STE
23-04-12, 12:22 PM
Ok, i replaced the standard paper filter for a greens cotton filter. Gutted the resinator box [removed internal baffles] removed the pipe at the back and blocked it off. drilled around a dozen 12mm diameter holes underneath the resinator box just in case water did get in. opened up the front to be directly behind the fog bezel. opened up the fog bezel and meshed. Run a scangauge permanently on the car and the IA temp is usualy a couple of degress higher than that outside the car as indicated on the climatronic. before doing this i would observe the IA temp running into the high 40's, especially in traffic, and it just wouldnt come down once it was that high.

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/picture.php?albumid=102&pictureid=1314

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/picture.php?albumid=102&pictureid=1313

talkingcars
23-04-12, 05:55 PM
I took a different approuch -

I moved the battery to the boot
and
fitted a BMC CDA in it's place with a 90' bend from the throttle body and another 90' down to the opening in the chassis leg (if you've not seen the hole it is mirrored by the one the washer tank sits in). This has moved the filter and inlet pipes away from the radiator.

One day I'll link the throttle bypass to this set up but at the moment it has a small filter on it drawing air from the engine bay.

I've been running a scangauge since before doing this and have seen a considerable improvement in inlet tempretures. Before it would not cool down once temps had got up, since it will run at 5' above ambiant tempreture when moving, I once even saw 60' while driving around the local resort town near my mother-in-laws in Spain, as soon as we hit the motorway it starts to drop and reaches the 5' above with in 2 miles.

Interestingly the first year I ran this set up I still had the resonator box fitted to the car but not connected and had assumed it would interfere with airflow, however once I had the opertunity to remove it I found that the inlet temp would raise quicker and drop more slowly, next step is to fit a baffle below the chassis leg to keep the warm air out of the under arch area.

You may be able to get an idea from my avaitar.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318720_288064541210820_100000218281935_1396325_162 8733503_n.jpg

Adamzs180
26-04-12, 10:08 PM
Where did you get the carbon engine cover from?

talkingcars
27-04-12, 05:30 AM
eBay, I think this is the only one as they wern't selling very fast.