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Smokey
05-08-12, 07:42 PM
Just a quick not to confirm I have made a deal with Sam (ZS) to buy his engine and gearbox. Unless Sam posts it, I wont divulge the price as I know I got a great deal that could potentially damage other people sellings price.

Safe to say, I now have the new engine and gearbox, to be delivered some time in the near future! Yay!!

Now, here's where I may need some assistance. Ideally I would be looking for somewhere to deliver the engine that would be safe and also be able to have my car there as I plan to change the engine myself with the aid of some eager members.

Secondly, I will need an engine hoist to remove and refit the engines.

Also, I am not rolling about with loads of tools so I am hoping between us we have the right ones!

All in all, I am looking forward to progressing with the work, just another project on my list of things to do!!

Hopefully the costs wont get much higher once I have the new engine.

What other things will I need when changing the engine?

Oil, coolant....

grimmy
05-08-12, 07:59 PM
All my tools will be made available mate,I would also offer the use of my lock up but unsure whether we would have enough room although the car could be rolled in and out if needed.there is also the issue of getting it down here,as for fluids and the like I would cross that bridge when we come to it as that kind of thing will be the very last thing to do.either way wherever you get to do it I will weigh in with as much labour as I possibly can.

Smokey
05-08-12, 08:03 PM
Always appreciated mate. I ultimately need to decide where the location is going to be for the engine swap due to getting the engine delivered. Don't want it delivered here if it ends up having to be transported elsewhere!

I can try to arrange the car to be transported to wherever the location is if needed.

BUCKYDEVIL
05-08-12, 08:15 PM
my new home has loads of room to store the car on a level surface and I could dry store the engine in my shed.
More than welcome mate. ?

grimmy
05-08-12, 08:18 PM
Always appreciated mate. I ultimately need to decide where the location is going to be for the engine swap due to getting the engine delivered. Don't want it delivered here if it ends up having to be transported elsewhere!

I can try to arrange the car to be transported to wherever the location is if needed.

Well the offer of my garage is there and I have seen engines being swapped using them as my mate along the road has had his cossie engine in and out of his escort and his garage is the same size as mine, he doesn't have a hoist but uses a huge wooden beam.over the doors with a huge pulley and drops it in that way.

andys1981
05-08-12, 08:22 PM
either of there houses would be good,am fairly local aswell to lend a hand if needed aswell

Smokey
05-08-12, 08:34 PM
Probably the ideal location for the car and engine since everyone who can assist is nearby.

Shucks guys :blush:

BUCKYDEVIL
05-08-12, 08:38 PM
Probably the ideal location for the car and engine since everyone who can assist is nearby.

Shucks guys :blush:

Ha! will be the first time Cumbernauld has been os some use to anyone..
However there is very little distance between Grimmys and mine.

Ritchy
05-08-12, 08:49 PM
may be able to help with the install, see closer to the time pretty busy these days, got engines to put in myself unfortunatly

grimmy
05-08-12, 10:07 PM
Ha! will be the first time Cumbernauld has been os some use to anyone..
However there is very little distance between Grimmys and mine.yours is probably better as it has more space but if need must it can be moved to mine once all the heavy stuff is done and final tinkering and and the like can be done there getting it off your drive and not annoying your missus

may be able to help with the install, see closer to the time pretty busy these days, got engines to put in myself unfortunatly
Hopefully, after talking to Blair tonight we should have it stripped to the point that it will only be putting the new one in if that will help time wise as having you on hand would be very beneficial to us rank amateurs.

ZS
06-08-12, 06:51 AM
I assume the engine will need to be drained of all fluids (including gearbox oil) before transport (as otherwise will leak everywhere anyway...)

Biggest problem for me is removing the engine (although it will be done in the timescales) :) - if anyone down this way wants to give a hand with that then I'd be most appreactiative :) - Means engine hoist and pallet needed I guess!

stamford
06-08-12, 07:12 AM
Not sure what I can do to offer as I have to watch my back and the fact that I am due in hospital very soon. Also hoping to go away end of the month on holiday, assuming the hospital don't cause any damage to me!

I could get a pallet, actually I think I have one tucked away from the last engine delivery!

Smokey
06-08-12, 07:15 AM
I'm so amateur, I don't have a rank! As said in text Sam, don't feel pressured to rush, as there is no hurry. I'm sure there will be someone near you as generous as the guys up here.

It's for the site track car after all!!

Plus if the car is up and running well for next years track days, I will have the time to organise a meet down there too!

ZS
06-08-12, 07:18 AM
Not sure what I can do to offer as I have to watch my back and the fact that I am due in hospital very soon. Also hoping to go away end of the month on holiday, assuming the hospital don't cause any damage to me!

I could get a pallet, actually I think I have one tucked away from the last engine delivery!

The Pallet would be great if possible Mick :)

Am I correct in saying the engine is 154kg and gearbox is 36kg... In which case its gonna be damn heavy... lol - Wonder where I can get a hoist from...

Smokey
06-08-12, 07:22 AM
I remember Corey, Jim and I lifted the last V6 into a sprinter van. Was not bloody easy but managed it! mick, is it better to leave the gearbox attached for on the pallet or will it need separated?

Hopefully youran will be able to cut us a deal too :D

stamford
06-08-12, 07:28 AM
With the hoist are you intending to remove the engine and box where the car currently sits? I only ask as it'll be tough trying to move said hoist over the stones! I found it tough enough on a concrete drive trying to get it moved.

Box 36kg dry
Engine 154kg dry

I could possibly borrow the works hoist again, but it isn't easy to get it into the car and awkward to move around in order to close the rear door. I said I wouldn't do it again as it nearly did my back in and damaged the car. It would also need to be done over a weekend as it'll be needed again the following week, it is used to move tooling around the machine shop.

Pity my trailer isn't road-worthy as I would use that to shift it.

stamford
06-08-12, 07:33 AM
Have emailed my mate this morning to see what the score is on the pallet load.

Would suggest trying to keep it attached as one if possible, assuming the hoist is stable enough and that'll depend on the ground it is on. Plus it'll be a tight squeeze on one pallet if assembled, if split it'll need two palllets I reckon.

ZS
06-08-12, 07:37 AM
With the hoist are you intending to remove the engine and box where the car currently sits? I only ask as it'll be tough trying to move said hoist over the stones! I found it tough enough on a concrete drive trying to get it moved.

Was considering pushing the car onto the block paving, lifitng the engine out then pushing the car back again, then drop the engine direct onto pallet and strapping down there and then :) - would hope to do that withing a few days of delivery, unless I can find a way of moving the pallet etc :)

stamford
06-08-12, 07:38 AM
Once on a pallet you will find it hard to move it, been then! Shared drive can be a pain!