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brf1976
18-09-12, 11:35 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-ZS-180-SPRINTEX-SUPERCHARGED-274BHP-FACELIFT-MK-2-/110952296792?forcev4exp=true
Looks nice if I had the money I would be tempted
peterzs
18-09-12, 11:42 AM
Hate to total up all the mods and upgrades.
stamford
18-09-12, 11:49 AM
It is a very well presented and sorted version, it was on show at Zed10. Only sticking point will be the price and what he would like to claw back. I can't see anyone paying that price in all honesty no matter how good it is unless they had won the lottery.
brf1976
18-09-12, 11:57 AM
It is a very well presented and sorted version, it was on show at Zed10. Only sticking point will be the price and what he would like to claw back. I can't see anyone paying that price in all honesty no matter how good it is unless they had won the lottery.
True but it must be an amazing ride :D
petet16
18-09-12, 12:05 PM
It's a great car, but I doubt he'll get the asking price, I'm sure he would be open to offers.
Also the pictures have gone from ebay !
Can only see a max of £4k really, shame as its stunning.
Enright
18-09-12, 01:06 PM
It's a great car, but I doubt he'll get the asking price, I'm sure he would be open to offers.
Also the pictures have gone from ebay !
Shame that, as I would've liked to have at least seen what's possible.
Jay-ZS+
18-09-12, 01:17 PM
It looks a stunning car, its alot of money for a ZS though!!
WalkerDnB
18-09-12, 03:33 PM
Its a very nice car but Id rather have a T16 it would be cheaper as well as having more than 275bhp
At that kind of money id be looking at evo's or a saph cossie :D
have to agree with Smokey 4k max and be for sale for ages at that.
talkingcars
18-09-12, 05:44 PM
A T16 is only 200bhp (or 180 for the vitesse), you need to spend serious money to get it up to beyond 274.
Is the T16 easy to get up to 250 though?
talkingcars
18-09-12, 06:07 PM
Better induction, exhaust, bigger turbo and up the boost and you are starting to get there.
WalkerDnB
18-09-12, 06:11 PM
A T16 is only 200bhp (or 180 for the vitesse), you need to spend serious money to get it up to beyond 274.
that's a fair point
275 is possible on a standard block (with a bigger turbo and intercooler ect..)
so its still cheaper and you could get more than 274 for your money
I will have to consult my rover turbo expert on this lol
petet16
18-09-12, 06:12 PM
Is the T16 easy to get up to 250 though?
Close to yes, and reliably on standard internals
talkingcars
18-09-12, 06:19 PM
My mate Victor who owned "mental maestro" as seen on top gear many years ago strubbled to get a reliable usable car above 270.
His T16 had been bored out to 2.1L, forged internals, T3 hybrid turbo and emerald ECU custom mapping @ emerald, I'm not saying you can't get more but it starts to become impracticle for everyday use.
Jay-ZS+
18-09-12, 06:26 PM
You can pick up a half tidy MK2 for £1.5k (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MGF-ZS-2-5-180-/280810290349?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item416198fcad#ht_1214wt_1397) or one with engine issues, or even just a lucky bargin for sub £800 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MG-ZS-RED-FACELIFT-FACTORY-BODY-KIT-BARGAIN-TO-CLEAR-WORTH-A-LOOK-/120984958887?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c2b43f7a7#ht_621wt_1397).
That leaves £5.7k to buy, rebuild and fit Tseries. Reckon you will see decent power with that amount of cash!!!
petet16
18-09-12, 06:31 PM
It really depends what you want to use it for, you can shoot for big power, and have the downside of it becoming possibly less useable and more temperamental, or go for less power with more reliability and more useable.
big_wasa
18-09-12, 06:57 PM
You can pick up a half tidy MK2 for £1.5k (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MGF-ZS-2-5-180-/280810290349?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item416198fcad#ht_1214wt_1397) or one with engine issues, or even just a lucky bargin for sub £800 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MG-ZS-RED-FACELIFT-FACTORY-BODY-KIT-BARGAIN-TO-CLEAR-WORTH-A-LOOK-/120984958887?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c2b43f7a7#ht_621wt_1397).
That leaves £5.7k to buy, rebuild and fit Tseries. Reckon you will see decent power with that amount of cash!!!
£5.7k large on the T :crazy: your getting near the reyland Vag conversion without the extras
petet16
18-09-12, 07:16 PM
You wouldn't need to spend anywhere near that figure to make decent power, you can pick up engines for £250 or less.
Jay-ZS+
18-09-12, 07:24 PM
£5.7k large on the T :crazy: your getting near the reyland Vag conversion without the extras
You wouldn't need to spend anywhere near that figure to make decent power, you can pick up engines for £250 or less.
Thats my point :)
Maxxed_Ross
18-09-12, 07:51 PM
it's a shame it'll never make that sort of money, because it's probably had a shed load more than that spent on it
Car's are never worth what you put into them unless it's something crazy rare, old or exotic
Supercharged_Z
18-09-12, 09:05 PM
I offered 4k for this but aparently hes had two buyers from forums offering asking price....
its a sorted motor for sure, but for 6k you can pick up many other sorted motors. I'm in no rush for anything it just looked intresting so good luck to the buyer/s I might go a little further but 6k for any ZS is mental
petet16
18-09-12, 09:13 PM
I offered 4k for this but aparently hes had two buyers from forums offering asking price....
its a sorted motor for sure, but for 6k you can pick up many other sorted motors. I'm in no rush for anything it just looked intresting so good luck to the buyer/s I might go a little further but 6k for any ZS is mental
I knew he'd had some offers, but not that they were asking price, I wouldn't go beyond 4.5k.
I seen this on xpower. As previous comments, lovely looking car but even at £4k i`d say it was overpriced.
Maxxed_Ross
18-09-12, 10:11 PM
I offered 4k for this but aparently hes had two buyers from forums offering asking price....
some mad people out there after all it seems! :joker:
zsserbia
18-09-12, 10:33 PM
Another site track car perhaps? I bet it would make a fine one this :D
Maxxed_Ross
19-09-12, 12:36 AM
that's far too nice to be a track car!
Quadcam24
19-09-12, 06:34 AM
makes me laugh how everyone complains zs are worth nothing but then all the supposed enthusiasts compound the situation by only wanting to pay peanuts for one !
how can this sorted sc zs be only worth 4k......its only worth 4k to folk looking to pay peanuts for a great car, to anyone who's a true enthusiast and can see it for what it is, then its worth 6k all day imo.
Its worth the money just in parts !
Jay-ZS+
19-09-12, 06:47 AM
makes me laugh how everyone complains zs are worth nothing but then all the supposed enthusiasts compound the situation by only wanting to pay peanuts for one !
how can this sorted sc zs be only worth 4k......its only worth 4k to folk looking to pay peanuts for a great car, to anyone who's a true enthusiast and can see it for what it is, then its worth 6k all day imo.
Its worth the money just in parts !
You gonna buy it then Dave?!
WalkerDnB
19-09-12, 07:02 AM
makes me laugh how everyone complains zs are worth nothing but then all the supposed enthusiasts compound the situation by only wanting to pay peanuts for one !
how can this sorted sc zs be only worth 4k......its only worth 4k to folk looking to pay peanuts for a great car, to anyone who's a true enthusiast and can see it for what it is, then its worth 6k all day imo.
Its worth the money just in parts !
enthusiast or not you'd have to be carzy to buy any car at 3 times the price just because its supercharged
And to be honest if it was twin turbo or maybe had a nice conversion with another engine (maybe cossie power :)) then I might understand the price but its not there are other supercharged zs's around admittedly not as nice as this one but still, if your willing to pay 6.5k for a rover mg badge or not you have a screw loose imo :laugh:
sneekyparrot
19-09-12, 07:20 AM
makes me laugh how everyone complains zs are worth nothing but then all the supposed enthusiasts compound the situation by only wanting to pay peanuts for one !
how can this sorted sc zs be only worth 4k......its only worth 4k to folk looking to pay peanuts for a great car, to anyone who's a true enthusiast and can see it for what it is, then its worth 6k all day imo.
Its worth the money just in parts !
Here's hoping someone's seen sense and snapped this up!
My mk1 went for 3k and not a patch on this mk2 , it is the best sorted charged 180 out there and can't be classed with an evo or cossie ! A car which can be picked up everyday of the week apart from a decent stock escort cosworth that it :-)
P.
stamford
19-09-12, 09:20 AM
A die-hard MG enthusiast looking for such a car would pay the money as it is a well sorted car and not a rough one whatsoever. No doubt it will sell, as any car would, to the right buyer. Everything has its price and everyone has their budget so a case of finding the right one.
WalkerDnB
19-09-12, 09:59 AM
Everything has its price and everyone has their budget so a case of finding the right one.
Thats true
I guess its because I'm not an MG enthusiast I brought a 180 for cheap thrills.
Im still a ford fan deep down so cossie all day for me lol
sneekyparrot
19-09-12, 10:00 AM
A die-hard MG enthusiast looking for such a car would pay the money as it is a well sorted car and not a rough one whatsoever. No doubt it will sell, as any car would, to the right buyer. Everything has its price and everyone has their budget so a case of finding the right one.
Words of wisdom there.
Quadcam24
19-09-12, 04:37 PM
enthusiast or not you'd have to be carzy to buy any car at 3 times the price just because its supercharged
And to be honest if it was twin turbo or maybe had a nice conversion with another engine (maybe cossie power :)) then I might understand the price but its not there are other supercharged zs's around admittedly not as nice as this one but still, if your willing to pay 6.5k for a rover mg badge or not you have a screw loose imo :laugh:
its not just super charged though is it ....read the spec.
Quadcam24
19-09-12, 04:50 PM
You gonna buy it then Dave?!
i would have considered it at one time but im afraid the mgblinkers have come off these days.
its not just super charged though is it ....read the spec.
I don`t see how that spec is worth the money? The supercharger side of things is sorted yes, but apart from that, where is the money?
sneekyparrot
19-09-12, 05:11 PM
That's all round wilwood conversion was a small fortune in it self!
Jay-ZS+
19-09-12, 05:12 PM
The Omega Pistons aint cheap
WalkerDnB
19-09-12, 05:21 PM
its not just super charged though is it ....read the spec.
To be honest I didn't read it because hes written it all in CAPS LOCK which is bloody annoying and a soon as some one does it I lose all interest lol.
If you wanted a 274bhp Supercharged ZS with all the mods the car has then it might be worth it (cost far more to build)
but I still think its only worth 4k max Im sorry but at the end of the day its still just a zs and for 6.5k there are much faster, better built, and more unique cars around.
Now if it was that BMW based drift ZS 6.5k all day long :D
As I said the engine side is sorted, and there`s a quaife. Brakes yes few quid when new.
Supercharged_Z
19-09-12, 06:53 PM
makes me laugh how everyone complains zs are worth nothing but then all the supposed enthusiasts compound the situation by only wanting to pay peanuts for one !
how can this sorted sc zs be only worth 4k......its only worth 4k to folk looking to pay peanuts for a great car, to anyone who's a true enthusiast and can see it for what it is, then its worth 6k all day imo.
Its worth the money just in parts !
Its worth what somebody is willing to pay. Thats pure and simple. I was willing to pay 4k, what its worth is not even important with my offer.
It's a very well sorted car, but then so was yours and you have to find somebody who wants to spend the money on somthing very custom with no real manufacture support from both MG and Sprintex should anything ever happen.
If he has sold it then fair play as somebody else was willing to take the chance and was willing to pay more.
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