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VVC MINI
02-11-12, 08:53 PM
Thought i would make a little build/spec of my car. I know its not a ZS but its kind of at home here.

The car is a Rover Tomcat coupe 1998 which started life as a 1.8VVC.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/IMG_0586.jpg

First of all i turboed the VVC engine.

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Blew that up so fitted a T16 which i modded a fare old bit to a very good spec.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/T16%20forged/82107ffa.jpg
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Melted a few pistons etc but was going strong 293hp and 368ftlb.
But wasn't nice to drive and everyone has a T16. So decided to sell the engine and have ago at the V6. Someone had bodged one in a bubble before (same engine bay as a tomcat). So every where on the internet was saying it can't be done and doesn't fit properly. So had a quick look and plenty of room to many keyword warriors!

So brought a ZS180 donor :wavecry: Body work was battered but engine sounded sweat and had only covered 60k.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/9169b23d.jpg

L series diesel gearbox mount and shafts from a Rover 200

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/c2ef5744.jpg

modified the front subframe to clear the exhaust manifold.


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VVC MINI
02-11-12, 08:57 PM
Engine mount

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/DSCF0338.jpg

Rear subrame with tie bar mounted on and notched slightly to clear rear manifold

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With the frames in and complete next job cambelt and aux belt.

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Fitted a type B lsd into the v6 box. Cleaned and painted it all up.

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Few pics of engine in.

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VVC MINI
02-11-12, 09:01 PM
Made exhaust collector box so both manifolds are equal length.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/1ae0a2f8bafa8569ad0f13c5f38bc74f.jpg
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Had to weld AN fittings onto the original oil cooler ones as they seem to be rover unique. Used a T16 oil cooler.

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Used 2 VVC fans. Just about fit.

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VVC MINI
02-11-12, 09:05 PM
What it looks like atm.


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121013_115422.jpg
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Had the car rolling roaded. Is down on power I think. Quick spec is

ITG filter
Custom exhaust with better flowing collectors on manifolds an a custom collector box.
ZS stainless middle section and rear box 2.5 inch with no cats.
Manacore ignition leads all new service items plugs etc.
balance valve taken out off inlet!!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/56502b1805c31086b6f612194d37f101.jpg

174bhp @ 6666rpm
159ftlb @ 4236rpm

ZS Phil
02-11-12, 09:31 PM
What a thread, really enjoyed looking through that. Some serious time and effort looks to have gone into that!

burnsie666
02-11-12, 10:53 PM
If its any help bud I only made 176 bhp before I got it mapped by reidy, same mods as you mine now runs 197.6 Defo worth the 150 notes!

peterzs
02-11-12, 11:17 PM
Amazing amount of time and effort gone into it, great looking bit of engineering.

Love it.

:yes::yes::yes:

Smokey
02-11-12, 11:58 PM
Wow, just wow. Very good effort mate, looks like you are having a whale of a time with the car!

Jay-ZS+
03-11-12, 07:27 AM
Nice build, you made that look easy! Looks a great installation. :thumbsup:

POMPSKI
03-11-12, 09:12 AM
Absolutely brilliant!

Quadcam24
03-11-12, 03:10 PM
very good.

VVC MINI
03-11-12, 07:56 PM
Cheers for the replys. Was all worth while doing I really do like the v6. Is like a VVC the power delivery but with a bit extra and a better noise :)

Today I sacked the collector box of and fitted a Y pipe. May go back to the roller tomorrow to see what the difference is as it does feel abit more pokey. But does sound different so hard to tell.

Also fitted a oil catch tank. Will try and get some more pics up.

KirkJames
03-11-12, 09:42 PM
Awesome work, I have a couple of questions, just for my own curiosity really. Where is the air filter drawing cool air from and also how come you have put the breather filter under the engines accoustic cover where it'll be hot?

Just wondered mate, most excellent work all round!! ;)

Maxxed_Ross
04-11-12, 07:47 AM
That has turned out really nice... and the finish looks better than factory!

VVC MINI
04-11-12, 08:27 PM
Awesome work, I have a couple of questions, just for my own curiosity really. Where is the air filter drawing cool air from and also how come you have put the breather filter under the engines accoustic cover where it'll be hot?

Just wondered mate, most excellent work all round!! ;)

The air filter has lots of cold air hitting it, as the radiator doesnt go to the top of the slam panel.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121104_155602.jpg

Will make a cold air box for it but for now it's not as bad as it looks.

Today I made the vis light indicator lights. Was pretty simple got all the stuff from maplin. A few pics.

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As I thought my balance valve isn't working. So I need a new one. I took it apart and the board if fine. Put direct power to the motor and nothing :thumbsdown:

Maxxed_Ross
04-11-12, 09:09 PM
Now that is a neat solution hiding them in there!

At least you know what they are doing (or not doing i suppose)

KirkJames
05-11-12, 05:30 AM
Very neat place for the VIS Indicators :)

duncs
05-11-12, 07:35 PM
:wub: Love this, and in tarty blue as well! :D

Always wanted a coupe when I had my R8, insurance said no though lol

VVC MINI
05-11-12, 08:53 PM
Cheers guys. Seems like a good place for them as you can easily see them when driving but there not blinding and look factoryish!
Have ordered new vis motors and oil pressure T piece. Also have brought some nice exhaust bends to make my own janspeed style exhaust manifold.

I seem to be spending money on this but I'm sorry to say this is the best car I've ever driven. Just feels so right :D

VVC MINI
21-11-12, 08:33 PM
Update time.

Oil catch tank.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121117_104434.jpg

Fitted a Y pipe onto the manifolds and a polybush engine stabiliser bush.

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Doesn't sound as good but performance feels much better.

Made a shield around the air filter to help with keeping the ITG cold.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121117_104226.jpg
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Got some bends as I'm going to have ago at making the rear manifold the same length as front. Is going to be a ballache. But will hopefully be worth the effort.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121117_112528.jpg

And tonight ive just been back to the rolling road.

Old graph over new.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii314/kingbooty36/20121121_211145.jpg

Gained power all over and 20ftlb low down so pretty pleased :)
Still room for improvement.

Maxxed_Ross
21-11-12, 09:02 PM
I've a feeling the 5 degree drop in temperature will have alot to do with it. I'm sure a read somewhere that each degree is worth something like 2bhp?

Nice results though, well done!

VVC MINI
21-11-12, 09:30 PM
Ye will of helped. Thought it was 5 degrees 1% power.

Quadcam24
22-11-12, 02:09 PM
modern rollers are supposed to factor temps in to the results, so it shouldn't affect the numbers.

Mr Wicky
19-12-12, 03:31 PM
great job , look good , this is very much what I plan to do to a 400 tourer .

redzed
19-12-12, 04:03 PM
whats you @ wheel bhp figure, thats the true test not some calculated figure.

Nice job on the car by the way!

VVC MINI
20-12-12, 10:19 PM
It doesn't say wheel horse power. This Dyno is constantly used an updated on Facebook. Seems to be pretty realible on factory figures so can't be to far off and the power it pulled seems to be around correct.

lawrence-zs180
20-12-12, 11:33 PM
That's a really nice build, just one q though... That sump looks a touch exposed are you going to fit a guard?

Captain Slow
23-12-12, 11:18 PM
Very nicely executed project-love it!

Does it make much difference to how the car handles?

VVC MINI
23-12-12, 11:44 PM
Not going to bother with a sump guard as its only the same height as the cars floor and It clears speed bumps fine.

Handles a lot better now than with the T16 much lighter on the front. There's a small amount of torque steer, but not to much. Just a fun amount in the wet :)