Worst presented Mk2 180 advert ever .. ? [Archive]

Dan1971

06-12-12, 06:12 AM

What a shame .... £10 with the eastern Europeans would have made all the difference. Bargain hunters get your money out though ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mg-zs-180-v6-2004-in-red-burgandy-metallic-/221162544113?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item337e509bf1

stamford

06-12-12, 07:08 AM

Yea I saw that yesterday, no effort put in at all.

Enright

06-12-12, 07:49 AM

Firefrost, alcantara, black oak facia inserts - a few hours of elbow grease and that will make a really nice car for someone.
Only thing it's got going against it is it's a saloon! (Sorry, couldn't resist the opportunity to claw one back) ;)

littlened

06-12-12, 07:59 AM

Looks a bit grubby and un-loved to me.

Could of at least cleaned it, stuck some new car mats in and hoovered in the interior, would of made all the difference.

Smokey

06-12-12, 08:20 AM

Think a few further questions need answered too but doubt they will know (ie. belts)

Ippon

06-12-12, 08:41 AM

I've mailed the seller with a number of Qs ..... will calll later today ..... bit worried about the dints on roof statement tho ...
Anyone on here bidding?

hi there
mot ends feb but can mot at buyers cost of test. tax end of feb. yes registered to me. had it about a year. had discs pads tyres etc. No history as i lost the book when i moved house it did have partial history up to 56k. dont know on cambelt front im afraid, as anything like that would have been in the handbook etc that ive lost
car is as far as im aware a standard car. no problems im aware of my misses used this as her car and never mentioned any problems

cheers
marc

06-12-12, 09:06 AM

Personally I would start off with a bid of £500 explaining that the main dealers charge £950 (thats what Seaward MGRover want to charge me) for just the cambelt change and you would have to get that done first as you don't know the history.

Of course if you do or do not get the belts done is up to you... just tell the seller that :)

Oh and you could ask what the reserve is, give you an idea what he is expecting?

Also.. .if there are "very minor dinks in the roof" why are there no pictures of the roof to show how "Minor" they are?

Dan1971

06-12-12, 09:10 AM

I wouldn't worry about dents on the roof .... He says they are small - you'd best check as his small and yours will vary. Dent guy will pull them for £50.

If you can get that for £850 - £1000 a "Steve's clean" would get it looking A1. Then you're looking at a full service. So £1200 ish and your there. Everything else - belts, clutch, plenum, vis motors are just things that play up/need addressing on every 180 ....

It's a nice colour, got alcantara, so go have a butchers ....

Ippon

06-12-12, 09:32 AM

Everything else - belts, clutch, plenum, vis motors are just things that play up/need addressing on every 180 ....

It's a nice colour, got alcantara, so go have a butchers ....

Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

Smokey

06-12-12, 09:38 AM

It's a risk but you may be lucky!

06-12-12, 09:41 AM

Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

I'm Risking it every day with my MK2 180... AFAIK the belts have never been done... Trouble is its so expensive to change the belts on these things when the car is so cheap... some say if their belts go they will just replace the engine, for cheaper than the belt change would cost! (Or buy a new car)

littlened

06-12-12, 09:50 AM

It's a risk but you may be lucky!

Also depends how handy you are, it is possible to change the belts yourself. It's time consuming, and you have to be pretty methodical, but it's possible.

Smokey

06-12-12, 09:52 AM

Better spending the £400 and having no worries that buying a new car all the time imo!

Dan1971

06-12-12, 09:56 AM

Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

I'm afraid I'm one of those guys that gets a car and sells it on soon after ... I've never had a car that needed them doing.

My current one has a receipt for them being done a few years ago, so I'm not gonna do it again. Fact is that you can get a whole replacement engine for £200-£300 but I accept that it would need to get fitted, be off the road, inconvenient blah de blah...

Unless I was on starship mileage or running one of the very first Mk1s that I wanted to keep for ever and ever .... I'd be risking it personally.

Ippon

06-12-12, 10:23 AM

When a belt "goes" ...what happens - big bang, or slowly reduced prformance? .... and if big bang, what are the consequences if you're traveling @ 70 mph for example

littlened

06-12-12, 10:29 AM

When a belt "goes" ...what happens - big bang, or slowly reduced prformance? .... and if big bang, what are the consequences if you're traveling @ 70 mph for example

Bang, no warning, bent/snapped valves, possible hole in the piston.

Ippon

06-12-12, 10:36 AM

go on then .... on a 80K car 8YO car .... how likely?

06-12-12, 10:39 AM

Bang, no warning, bent/snapped valves, possible hole in the piston.

And sudden frozen engine? I.E. possibility of an accident being caused? - unless you dip the clutch of course....

littlened

06-12-12, 10:40 AM

go on then .... on a 80K car 8YO car .... how likely?

There's just no way of telling I don't think. Could last another 50k, could last 500 mile.

Ricwin

06-12-12, 02:38 PM

Belt snaps at 70, thats one dead engine.
Friend of mine had a similar issue going uphill in 2nd gear. Cambelt tensioner failed on his VVC, ruined the whole engine. Holes in pistons was one small problem :|

Steven11

06-12-12, 02:57 PM

stamford

06-12-12, 03:08 PM

Come on lads, there's nothing like a good game of cambelt Roulette, ive been playing it for the last 3 years. My 180 is 7 Years old with 75000 miles and the original belts.

I have faith she wont let me down :smile1:

You know you shouldn't be saying that! :whistle:

Mine were overdue when done and the belts were showing signs of ripeness.

Steven11

06-12-12, 03:19 PM

You know you shouldn't be saying that! :whistle:

Mine were overdue when done and the belts were showing signs of ripeness.

Think i may be tempting fait :shifty:

littlened

06-12-12, 03:38 PM

It's easy enough to have a quick look at your belts and look for signs of wear or cracks, although this doesn't rule out the belt won't go, it can give you an indication if there's any damage to the belt, from say a knackered tensioner.

AlastairRushforth

10-12-12, 01:07 PM

I've just replaced 2 heads on my brothers ZT190. Tension pulley started rumbling on his way out of work (long drive way so max of 15mph) and twang....

Result was 6 bent exhaust valves on the rear (bulkhead side) head.

I'm tempted by this car though (depending on size of dents) as my TY mk1 is almost certainly being replaced (not by choice)

talkingcars

10-12-12, 05:48 PM

I'm biding on this, up to £670 and still not cleared the reserve.

littlened

10-12-12, 06:20 PM

I'm biding on this, up to £670 and still not cleared the reserve.

I bet his reserve is about £1200

MG ZS STE

10-12-12, 07:35 PM

Worth it for a wine red metallic late ZS. Never seen that colour in the monogram range before.

Lukeus101

10-12-12, 08:58 PM

Firefrost wasnt on the monogram scheme :)

Ippon

10-12-12, 10:25 PM

Don't think I'm going to bid ..... suspect it will take £1200 to win bid, then at least £1000 to cam belt/roof/door handle/wheels/fogs plus time effort to sort leak .... compare that with Jay's £1200 mk2 sold last week ... everything done .... boy I'm begining to bitterly regret being too slow out of the blocks on that one :(

talkingcars

11-12-12, 05:07 AM

You are not the only one, I regret dealing with him on here and not facebook but his car was well under it's true value.

AlastairRushforth

11-12-12, 06:59 AM

petet16

11-12-12, 08:58 AM

Door handle? Fogs? Leak?

I see no mention of those faults in the ad.

Someone went to look at it I believe, and found the unmentioned faults.

Here.http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=23640

Ippon

11-12-12, 09:23 AM

What do we think it will sell for?
Do we think it will be bought blind?

AlastairRushforth

11-12-12, 09:24 AM

Ah got ya.

We talking coolant leak or water ingress?

AlastairRushforth

11-12-12, 09:33 AM

Just followed the link to the chap that viewed it. Turns out I know Marc from when I raced minis. Have spoken with his dad just now & Marc will be calling me later so I'll see what I can find out.

littlened

11-12-12, 09:48 AM

Looks like the price has gone over the reserve.

Dan1971

11-12-12, 09:57 AM

£1057 ....

littlened

11-12-12, 10:03 AM

£1057 ....

I reckon 1200

Would still be a decent price to say some are going for £1800. There's even one up for almost £3k.

petet16

11-12-12, 10:10 AM

I reckon £1000, it'll be a decent buy as a bit of time and money will have it looking good again.

Ippon

11-12-12, 10:35 AM

Just followed the link to the chap that viewed it. Turns out I know Marc from when I raced minis. Have spoken with his dad just now & Marc will be calling me later so I'll see what I can find out.

yes ... met them both yesterday, nice people .... they were busy preparing a sports car in lieu of the powder coater arriving .....

Ippon

12-12-12, 08:10 AM

Well bidding is £1.1K with 30 mins to go .... I'm not bidding, the missus put the brake on it ... final nail in the coffin, was only comes with one key/fob & no MOT ..... I have been instructed to buy a "loved" ZED ... which makes sense .....

petet16

12-12-12, 08:30 AM

£1232 anyone here get it?.

AlastairRushforth

12-12-12, 08:31 AM

Yes, me. It's being mot'd today.

Ippon

12-12-12, 08:32 AM

Nice one

talkingcars

12-12-12, 08:32 AM

I was close with 1212.12 (think about the date) bid with 22 seconds to go, again I got outbid with 2 seconds to go!

petet16

12-12-12, 08:33 AM

Well bought, it'll be a nice car with a bit of tlc.

AlastairRushforth

12-12-12, 08:33 AM

Sorry if I guzumped (spelling) anyone at the end, but having had a call this morning telling me that my TY mk1 is being written off, I needed a new car.

petet16

12-12-12, 08:36 AM

No gazumping in an auction, it's every man for himself

AlastairRushforth

12-12-12, 08:39 AM

I was close with 1212.12 (think about the date) bid with 22 seconds to go, again I got outbid with 2 seconds to go!

Sorry mate, I did laugh at the price (date) as well as sweating a bit.

talkingcars

12-12-12, 08:40 AM

Sorry if I guzumped (spelling) anyone at the end, but having had a call this morning telling me that my TY mk1 is being written off, I needed a new car.

No worries, I'm getting used to it, it's third one in 3 weeks this has happened on - and I can't find anyone to bid on the one at copart - even for 10% commision, I would quite happily bid £1k (+ commision) - http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/individualLot.html?lotId=28567692&searchType=onSaleNow

AlastairRushforth

12-12-12, 08:44 AM

No worries, I'm getting used to it, it's third one in 3 weeks this has happened on - and I can't find anyone to bid on the one at copart - even for 10% commision, I would quite happily bid £1k (+ commision) - http://www.copart.co.uk/c2/individualLot.html?lotId=28567692&searchType=onSaleNow

I'll speak to a few ppl about that, my brother used to work for Copart so may have a contact who can bid.

petet16

12-12-12, 08:44 AM

That's a pity, it's another car that only needs a little bit of work to bring it up to scratch, it has attracted someones attention the price has risen a bit

talkingcars

12-12-12, 11:32 AM

I'll speak to a few ppl about that, my brother used to work for Copart so may have a contact who can bid.

That would be really apprciated.

James