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Found this on our local selling forum.......why would you do this???
http://forum.caithness.org/showthread.php?195406-2002-52-MG-ZS-180-2.5-V6-with-LPG-Conversion
Don't even know of any garages up here that sell LPG!!! Just seems wrong to me.
Makes the V6 a tad cheaper to run with the lower cost of the LPG. There is a site somewhere that will show any LPG sellers near you. Though I can't think of any of top of my head round Thurso I would think there would be:)
Nearest seller is in Watten apparently, the gleaner ane but doesn't show price on the board:)
Well there you go then lol.....30 odd mile round trip to fill up and save!
I just don't get the thinking, buy a V6 then complain about the fuel consumption! ......thats why god invented the diesel Zed
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Hehe no the handiest eh. Kinda gives the best of baith worlds, power of the V6 and cheaper running cost without having to resort to devil fuel;)
talkingcars
17-01-13, 09:12 PM
Why is it wrong?
LPG is considerably cheaper than petrol and will remain so for many years as it is cheaper to produce as it is basically a waste byproduct of petrol production and it is legislated to be at least 40p lower on duty than petrol!
Although there is a slight reduction in power and ecconomy is considerably less the running cost is still much lower.
If you need that missing power just switch to petrol.
Tax is cheaper.
If you drive in London you don't pay the congestion charge.
The emmisions are basically steam so there is no problem at MOT, as long as you present the car running on LPG they have to test it on LPG.
So what are the disadvantages?
The initial instalation can be expensive, the average driver takes 2 years to cover the cost.
You loose a bit of boot space due to the tank, if you fit a toroidal tank in place of the spare wheel it goes down to virtually nothing.
petet16
17-01-13, 09:17 PM
It's a good idea, I'd get our 180 converted but for the fact we don't do enough miles to make it worthwhile
Lol its wrong because its a Zed 180.....why buy a car that is fun factor 10 but known to be thirsty and then convert it to LPG.....a 180 should be expensive, the grin factor makes it worthwhile!
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tb steve
17-01-13, 10:01 PM
i would be more worried about running the car without any power steering fluid in it
James Raby
17-01-13, 10:23 PM
Well spotted!!! Eek!
talkingcars
17-01-13, 11:04 PM
Lol its wrong because its a Zed 180.....why buy a car that is fun factor 10 but known to be thirsty and then convert it to LPG.....a 180 should be expensive, the grin factor makes it worthwhile!
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Maybe they are like me and do many miles every year.
How often do most people use the full power of their 180?
And just because you have cheaper running costs doesn't mean you can't enjoy the car.
and like I said, when you need that extra power - switch to petrol.
The ad says there is a failed PAS pipe.
Lol its wrong because its a Zed 180.....why buy a car that is fun factor 10 but known to be thirsty and then convert it to LPG.....a 180 should be expensive, the grin factor makes it worthwhile!
I rarely drive mine at full chat just now and still enjoy every minute of driving. I care not a jot what my mpg are since, as you point out, I bought the car, knowing it's hunger for fuel.
That said, I would buy one with LPG as it gives you an option. I driver 100 mile round trips twice a month. Would I not like to have fun driving the 180 with minimal performance difference at a fraction of the cost for those necessary journeys? Of course I would!
Thus, in my opinion, LPG'ing a 180 is as viable as any other car and if it didn't cost the value of the car for the conversion, I'd consider it.
petet16
18-01-13, 06:50 AM
Well spotted TC on the burst pas pipe, that would explain the empty reservoir
I think your missing my point! I have done 29000 plus miles in the last 6 months since having my Zed. When I started looking I decided that diesel would be the only option due to the miles I do. If I had a nice family car that did then miles and there were lots of LPG garages locally then maybe I would consider LPG. I would have a 180 for the weekends and for fun but not to take a performance car and then change it to reduce said performance.
Maybe its just me but a Zed is for driving as god intended.....I know the only thing I will do to my Zed is increase the power!
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talkingcars
18-01-13, 04:55 PM
You can't have done 29'000 miles just driving round your local town - assuming the speed limit is 30mph that would be over 40 days driving with out stopping or slowing down!
It therefore follows that you have driven some distances so will have passed LPG suppliers.
I really don't beleive that you are driving on public roads exploting the engine to the full at all times so you wont notice the slight reduction in performance
and as I keep saying - when you need it switch to petrol.
Assuming petrol costs £1.35/L and you are getting 30mpg you've spent £1300 on fuel in 6 months - I expect it will be a lot more as you drive everywhere at full tilt - in a year that is over £2.5k, you would have paid for the conversion in that time.
I challange you to try a vehicle that has LPG and try it on both fuels and then still tell me that you notice a difference in everyday driving.
tb steve
18-01-13, 09:10 PM
true tc it doe's say that in the ad it also so said thats the steering is ok just a bit heavy at low speed
so they have been driving it without any fluid in it ????
can i fix it
18-01-13, 10:22 PM
i have a 180 2002 57000 ish have had loads of cars had it a year now my wife can't belive i have had it so long and still love it, had it fitted with lpg last year i do 150 200 miles a week cost for this round £23.00 per week you can't tell it from petrol, as i am over 50 not often do i drive it at full bore so fine for me i also have a yellow 180 and a 1.8t zt i like my mg. most times i take the lpg one fuel station are not like petrol ones but the tank of lpg 250 miles i can fill up as i am passing i will keep it for 5 years if i can i got it converted only so it is as cheap to run as say a 1.8. yes you still get the grin factor lol
At the end of the day, we buy 180's for the fun factor. If it was all about fuel, we'd all drive 1.1 Hyundai Getz's!
I have driven an Astra with LPG at work and there is no noticeable performance difference between the two fuels and that's at full tilt as required.
I also read on this forum of an LPG owner mentioning that they noticed little difference in performance of the 180.
pb25, I think you miss the point of the conversion. It's like saying there is no point in a high performance PC when you spend 20% of the time playing games that push the system and 80% searching the web, using eBay, writing on forums, watching movies etc, etc.
I could give many other examples but the bottom line is, the 180 is a car. It will be driven within the laws of the road and occasionally given a good thrashing. Being able to change fuels to suit the desired requirement is a bonus in my mind, not a sacrifice or a mistake. If you disagree, that's fine, don't get one yourself but it's not nice to say that someone is 'wrong' to convert a 180 to LPG.
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