View Full Version : Differences between a ZS 1.6 and 1.8
drewesq
02-05-13, 09:12 AM
Apart from the CCs is there any difference? I remember reading somewhere that the suspension on a 1.6 is the same as the Rover and not the MG suspension. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
What other differences are there?
Thanks
:)
Visually no exhaust cut out on the rear bumper for the 1.6. Smaller 15'' wheels.
drewesq
02-05-13, 10:43 AM
I have a cutout and 16" wheels, but then I also have a 180 front splitter, all was there when I bought it! Mine is a 2001 1.6 and although the service book and old MOTs say it is a 1.6 I understand they didn't make one in those days.... makes me think I actually have a 1.8
Where is the engine number located, I had a look the other day when I removed my rotten exhaust manifold heat shield, but couldn't see it!
petet16
02-05-13, 10:52 AM
As for suspension all the zs share the same rear shocks and springs irrespective of engine size, for the front suspension the 1.6 & 1.8 use the same shocks and springs.
The 2.5 and diesel also use the same items, none of the springs or shocks are shared with the 45 or 400.
Mine is a 2001 1.6 and although the service book and old MOTs say it is a 1.6 I understand they didn't make one in those days.... makes me think I actually have a 1.8
You are quite right, 2001 was when the Zed first appeared and there was no ZS110 in the line up. Probably didn't appear until 2003.
One other thing is 1.6 has rear drum brakes rather than brake disks on the 1.8.
petet16
02-05-13, 02:08 PM
Is the engine number on the V5, if it starts 18K4 you have a 1.8.
petet16
02-05-13, 02:08 PM
One other thing is 1.6 has rear drum brakes rather than brake disks on the 1.8.
Were discs an option on a 1.6 ?.
Were discs an option on a 1.6 ?.
Don't really know but I don't think so.
Drum brakes also apply to the diesel ZS101 but disk brakes on ZS115.
drewesq
02-05-13, 03:18 PM
One other thing is 1.6 has rear drum brakes rather than brake disks on the 1.8.
Hmmmm. I have drums on the back! I'll look at the V5 when I get home! What yesr did the facelift come in? 2004? If so then did they not make the Mk1 in a 1.6 at all?
When I went to ALS they thought it was a Rover 45 impression when I gave them the reg number!
petet16
02-05-13, 03:23 PM
Odd, are you sure it is a zs and not a 45 made over to look like a zed.
The mk2 came in at around middle of 2004. There are 1.6 in mk1 guise as I said earlier think they came in 2003.
petet16
02-05-13, 03:30 PM
Looking at some of your old posts, this has come up before.
petet16
02-05-13, 03:41 PM
How to decode your vin http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/content--name-MG-Rover-400-Vehicle-Information
I think you may have a 1.6 R45.
DannyZR
02-05-13, 03:42 PM
Mines a 1.6 entry moddel and drives + handels better than the mk1 1.8 we have in work so I think there isnt much different really
WalkerDnB
02-05-13, 03:43 PM
How to decode your vin http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/content--name-MG-Rover-400-Vehicle-Information
I think you may have a 1.6 R45.
When you check the reg it shows as an MG ZS.
weird one
petet16
02-05-13, 03:56 PM
Yeah, scratch the bit about it being a R45, I've checked the vin on both our zs and the both show up RT which is Rover 400, so you can't tell from the vin if it's a zs or not.
Mine is a 2001 1.6
Your profile says yours is a 2003 1.6. So is it a 2001 or 2003?
If its 2003 then it is a ZS 1.6. The exhaust cut out and 16" wheel can be easily changed. If its a 2001 then it is all abit strange.
petet16
02-05-13, 05:03 PM
His vin has 2D in it which is 2002 my.
His vin has 2D in it which is 2002 my.
Is that not about right when the first 1.6 appeared?
peterzs
02-05-13, 05:06 PM
Yeah, scratch the bit about it being a R45, I've checked the vin on both our zs and the both show up RT which is Rover 400, so you can't tell from the vin if it's a zs or not.
Unless you have two R45, Pete!!!!!!!!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
petet16
02-05-13, 05:10 PM
If your vin has RT in it Pete, you have a R45 diesel:p
petet16
02-05-13, 05:11 PM
Is that not about right when the first 1.6 appeared?
Yes, I think it's an early 1.6
Mines a 1.6 entry moddel and drives + handels better than the mk1 1.8 we have in work so I think there isnt much different really
Obviously bhp is different but the main difference is in the torque. On the 1.8 max torque is only at 2750rpm so it pulls quickly.
Really depends, towards the end there was a lot of different specs, as said all the 1.6 and 1.8 is the same suspensiin, some are leccy and other are manual windows, some have solid front disca, others have vented, some have rear discs others have drums.
drewesq
02-05-13, 08:16 PM
date of first reg.= 13/11/2001
make: mg | model: zs
vin: SARRTXWMB2D551957
Engine no. = 16kfn46431013
There's no way this could be wrong is there?
I did think someone went to a LOT of effort to make a R45 look like an MG, wheels, headlights (why would you?!), bumpers, badges, steering wheel, interior, aerial....?
WalkerDnB
02-05-13, 08:19 PM
Is there any way of finding out who the car was first registered to?
Im sure they know what the car is lol
petet16
02-05-13, 08:28 PM
It's a 1.6 mk1 zs.
It's a 1.6 mk1 zs.
The curious part is the date of first register in November 2001 whilst the 1.6 was not available until 2003. Could this be a test car of some kind?
petet16
02-05-13, 09:53 PM
It certainly is an early one, it could be a pre production car.
peterzs
02-05-13, 10:34 PM
if you are a member of MGCC and join the Zed part, they have all the build details of the Zeds, just need the Vin via email.
Reckon they can tell everything that was put on it on the line.
WalkerDnB
02-05-13, 10:38 PM
if you are a member of MGCC and join the Zed part, they have all the build details of the Zeds, just need the Vin via email.
Reckon they can tell everything that was put on it on the line.
Is it really worth the £45 to join?
drewesq
03-05-13, 02:30 AM
if you are a member of MGCC and join the Zed part, they have all the build details of the Zeds, just need the Vin via email.
Reckon they can tell everything that was put on it on the line.
Well, I could well have been a bit cheeky here as I requested a free 'pack' and there was an opportunity to ask a question about anything MG related on the request page, so I have asked, I guess at worst they'll just say no, but worth a shot
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll update the post if I get more info!
math0050
03-05-13, 02:10 PM
Do the ZS's not have commission numbers on them where as the R45's don't? inside the drivers door i think.
i have a MK2 110 and it has the 17" straights, vented front discs and discs on the rear
drewesq
03-05-13, 02:27 PM
Do the ZS's not have commission numbers on them where as the R45's don't? inside the drivers door i think.
i have a MK2 110 and it has the 17" straights, vented front discs and discs on the rear
Mine has no commission number :(
petet16
03-05-13, 03:06 PM
Odd one really, yours was registered in Birmingham, it would be interesting to see who the first owner was, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be MGR.
drewesq
03-05-13, 03:13 PM
Odd one really, yours was registered in Birmingham, it would be interesting to see who the first owner was, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be MGR.
MGR? MGRover?
petet16
03-05-13, 03:18 PM
Yes, MG Rover.
I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be MGR.
My thought exactly. Could be a pre-production test car or something.
drewesq
03-05-13, 03:34 PM
My thought exactly. Could be a pre-production test car or something.
Does that mean it's rarity will make it even more valuable?!
:P
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