Stamford’s ZS180

[stamford]

The poor zed has been sorned since November 2012 and has been laid up due to the winter break, plus holidays, ill health and a bereavement. So tonight I dug it out and popped it on the driveway. Two flat tyres, covered in crap and cobwebs!

Got the wheels off, rear calipers off, then started to strip the lower arms and coilovers. The coilovers need cleaning as the adjusters have become stuck. I need to raise the car by around 25mm as the interior is back in. Plus with the new rims and tyres that need to be bought it needs clearance. However on stripping the offside coilover the inner lower LCA bolt is seized! So I can see some fun ahead, will soak the joint first but I think it'll be a drill through job to get it out! Then there's the nearside to look at!

Once the brakes have been overhauled (including new hoses and fluid) then it's down to the garage for the balljoints to be done as I don't have the tools and the patience to do it myself, while it's there they will MOT it.

Before then I'll need to roll the arches as the rims and 235s may be a tad tight. BTCC kit will be nice :D

So hopefully the old girl will get some use this year and on a personal note it is a much needed diversion from things that have happened recently.

On a good note it did start first time with a fresh battery, god I miss the noise! :D

[Dan1971]

Nice one Mick ... Good to hear. Shout when you need some extra hands ... Red knows the way to Portsmouth !

[reaper0709]

Glad to hear the zed is released!
I look forward to some piccys! :)

[peterzs]

Sounds like a plan, best of luck.

Hope the nuts and bolts are kind and all spin off.

:smile1::smile1::smile1:

[Craig-ZS180]

Yay..! Good news Mick, hope it all comes together nicely which I'm sure it will. I'm sure a "do stuff" get together could be organised if help I'd needed down the line.
I've only ever seen your zed once in the flesh at zedten so be good to see it back on the road once again :D

[Ritchy]

Pour some cocacola over the bolt:)

[andys1981]

good stuff mick,good to hear your getting an interest again for the zed,after recent events,hope it all goes well,also look forward to pics on the progress mate

[maxtherotti]

can fully appreciate where your coming from
just done a mini strip on mine to paint all the arches etc
got a few bolts to drill out myself now lol

get some pics up they allways give you a boost
o and if you do the front and remove the arch liners m6 button head bolts replace the plastic screws in the silly clips fine and look good too while being cheaper than new plastic ones:happy2:

[daytona365]

Good to see the beast is running again.........Too good to sit unused, and like Dan said, we all know the way down south, ...........

[stamford]

Could be a good excuse for a BBQ, plus still got your box of bits in the garage Gordon!

Coca cola over the bolt? I have heard of this before, does it actually do anything or is it one of those urban legends?

[ZS]

Coca cola over the bolt? I have heard of this before, does it actually do anything or is it one of those urban legends?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov1ecYKxYH0

[maxtherotti]

coke works a treat on stuck injectors on diesels
How about a mini zs meet with bbq at your place and bring some spanners :clap:
get 5 guys on it
1 on each corner while you oversee lol

[stamford]

coke works a treat on stuck injectors on diesels
How about a mini zs meet with bbq at your place and bring some spanners :clap:
get 5 guys on it
1 on each corner while you oversee lol

:D sounds ideal! Delegate! Got plenty of tools, but found last night that my trolley jack is past it, need to buy a new one, can't grumble as it is 20 years old!

Tyres will get ordered Friday hopefully. Braided hoses as well. Need to check the brakes over, can see a bit of money in them as well! Arch roller on the cards, do I buy or borrow? Not one to borrow but probably won't use it again. Set of plugs, oil change................erm this list is growing. Can't see it being ready for Duxford at this rate :sad: But at least it is being shown some attention.

[grimmy]

Good to hear Mick I am sure you will have it looking and running superb in no time.

[stamford]

Thanks grimmy, about time I did something. I was having visions of it becoming one those neglected cars taken root in the front garden! It'll come good as it is a much needed diversion. My dad always liked it, so there's some incentive.

[grimmy]

Thanks grimmy, about time I did something. I was having visions of it becoming one those neglected cars taken root in the front garden! It'll come good as it is a much needed diversion. My dad always liked it, so there's some incentive.

When you are done you can come up here and work on mine keep the distraction going.:smile1:

[Ritchy]

Yeah it does, have some amazing stuff at work at the moment called torson spray. Reallly good.

[Maxfly]

Great to hear the old girl getting a good going over mick, be good to hear de is mobile again :)

[talkingcars]

Pour some cocacola over the bolt:)

what a waste of rum!

Mick - it's good that you are finding the strength to start doing things for yourself.

[stamford]

Thanks James. About time I looked forward, I know I can't keep feeling down so thought what's the best tonic? So decided to get on and do something. No rum wasted here! I have two bottles of my dad's and have started to like it again!

[BUCKYDEVIL]

Far too good a car to be wasting away in the garage anyway, look forward to reading the updates & progress, you really going for the BTCC kit then ? Rolled arches will look great
and as you said a good way to keep your mind off other matters.
Good luck Mick.

[stamford]

BTCC kit would be top of the list, if it comes off and not too costly then I would have one for sure. Rolled arches will do for now then if the kit does happen then it can go on after. Just doing the rounds on tyres at the moment and trying to get what I can done within a budget.

[stamford]

The shopping list has started!


Just ordered:

x4 235/40x17. Had to compromise, will be trying Maxxis MAZ1, not bad for less than £240 posted!
Set of stainless steel braided hoses.
MTEC full set of front/rear discs with Mintex pads. Dimpled and grooved.
That's this paydays budget blown, plus a little thanks to dear mother for wanting to help as well, bless her. :kissing2:

Just need to remove both LCAs and fit the alloy ones, refurb the AVOs again! then....

Once that little lot is delivered and fitted it'll be off to the garage for its ball joints and MOT.

But I very much doubt Duxford will be its first outing this year, all a bit too late tbh, but not wanting to rush it.

[peterzs]

Good start by the sound of it.

[maxtherotti]

You don't fancy the brembodge brake set up then?
Keep thinking about that myself

Rob

[ZS]

You don't fancy the brembodge brake set up then?
Keep thinking about that myself

Rob

Even with all the issues they have?

[stamford]

You don't fancy the brembodge brake set up then?
Keep thinking about that myself

Rob

Can't justify the cost, the calipers cost a fair bit these days and still require a refurb. Anyway the standard set-up is more than adequate for my needs and have never had any braking issues, just fade when overworked on track.

[petet16]

Even with all the issues they have?

eh ?

[maxtherotti]

Even with all the issues they have?


Only issues im aware of is the pads sticking in the calipers but not a issue if properly refurbed
unless im missing something??

Rob

[talkingcars]

I think they are meant to reduce brake squeal as well.

[stamford]

The guys at MTEC have checked the pad boxes in the warehouse and the Mintex pads do not include shims, so need to source some, rears definitely, fronts not been stripped yet but might as well.

[Craig-ZS180]

That's strange that they don't come with them, from when we've dealt with them at work they usually come with a rubber backing shim (anti squeal backing) that is actually stuck onto the back of the pad.
I know the ebc's do and I really cannot fault them on my car, on track or road have always been brilliant with no fade and work really well even from stone cold.
I honestly thought that Mintex came with them too as most suppliers do now when of a good brand.

[POMPSKI]

Neither my front nor rear mintex had shims when I changed them last year. I re-used the originals.

[ZS]

Only issues im aware of is the pads sticking in the calipers but not a issue if properly refurbed
unless im missing something??

Rob

Issues I had were lower ball joint rubbing on the disks under hard cornering, even with the shims behind the discs and that wasn't lowered... Had pads sticking, but a refurb fixed that... Any more spacers and you need longer studs in the hubs and then your front wheels have a wider track than your rear wheels... (I really needed longer studs TBH)

Those are just the issues I had... there are loads more documented elsewhere...

[maxtherotti]

Issues I had were lower ball joint rubbing on the disks under hard cornering, even with the shims behind the discs and that wasn't lowered... Had pads sticking, but a refurb fixed that... Any more spacers and you need longer studs in the hubs and then your front wheels have a wider track than your rear wheels... (I really needed longer studs TBH)

Those are just the issues I had... there are loads more documented elsewhere...

I shant bother then
just get some drilled and grooved discs when there shot then

Rob

[talkingcars]

I wouldn't get drilled discs on a road car, they tend to crack more easily due to heat/cool cycles.

Although I like the apperance and braking of groved discs they are a tad noisy compared to smooth.

[ZS]

Apparently a lot of drilled discs are just std discs drilled and then put on the market, which means they are not treated in the correct way and have a lot less stress than standard and crack\fail a lot more than they should...

So if you do go with drilled and grooved discs then I would look for known brands and avoid the cheap options.

[stamford]

In between other jobs I managed to do Sunday:

Stripped both rear coilovers, had to use alot of heat on the platform collars as both were seized solid. This took some time to shift, managed to reset them 20mm higher. Hopefully be able to tweak the height once on the car but can't be that far off from where it needs to be, roughly 40mm drop max. I think these will be replaced at some point for some new ones.

Got back under the car to tackle the LCAs, started on the nearside arm, got all the bolts out and got to the inner one, same as the offside, this seemed to be going well, the breaker bar started to make some difference then 'snap'! So I will either attempt to drill through but a cutting disc looks favourite here as the arm will not be re-used. Same needs to be done on the offside one as the bolt head has rounded off and this was using a 6-side impact socket!

Tyres, brake set, hoses should be here Weds/Thurs. So will require getting the tyres fitted at some point. I'll be needing an arch roller to fettle the fit as well. Anyone have one to hire?

[peterzs]

Moving onwards and upwards, bit hot Sunday, specially using heat.

Dont over do it, little and often I'm told.

[stamford]

Been informed my tyres arrived this morning. Looking forward to getting these fitted and seeing what the score is on clearance!

[peterzs]

I've got a lump hammer, if its a bit tight!!!!

Or a 14lb sledge, if thats needed.

:evo::evo::evo:

[stamford]

I've got a lump hammer, if its a bit tight!!!!

Or a 14lb sledge, if thats needed.

:evo::evo::evo:

Last resort that :D

[talkingcars]

While clearing the shed last weekend I came across the tool kit that came with my Lada, even had a tyre lever, welcome to borrow it if you want.

[stamford]

These tyres do look good, and they are the new drift model.

demon tweeks sell them.........http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/tyres/maxxis-ma-z1-drift-tyre

Funny thing is they have the same tyre for £198 each whereas I paid under £240 for all four!

[peterzs]

Smoking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stamford]

Today I managed to get the tyres fitted.

Brakes were delivered, as too the HEL braided hoses.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_0718_zps8df86710.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_0719_zpsfeda3ba6.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_0724_zpsc19373b8.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_0723_zpse71366ad.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_0722_zpse3bddb3d.jpg

Also managed to do some work this evening, freed off both rear brake hoses. Had to get a disc cutter and use a power saw to get through the seized inner LCA mount.

Partially stripped and cleaned the rear calipers.

Also found that the anti-roll bar coating is coming off, so looks like I may have to remove the bar, strip it and get it powder coated. Might pay to get a set of polybushes for it.

Gina can get her hands on an arch roller this weekend as her local vdub specialist has one in the shop I can use apparently.

[peterzs]

Sound all good news.

[ZS]

Looking good Mick :) You'll have the Zed in tip top shape in no time at this rate!

[stamford]

Thanks Sam, alas it won't be ready for Duxford as running out of time and not wanting to rush things. So I'll be taking my time and getting it finished for the end of July most likely. May as well clean and paint a few bits along the way.

[stamford]

Today:


Trip to B&Q and Pro-Parts to get paint, wire wheel, 10" metal cutting disc, WD40, degreaser.
Ground nearside LCA inner mount through, had to make a thin spanner for the angle grinder as it disappeared in the abyss of the garage.
Painted disc hubs and edges, needs another coat. Saves them getting rusty looking in time.
Rear ARB removed, needs the coating removed as flaky and horrible, grind off rust and then paint.
Need to purchase rear ARB polybush kit.
Gina dropped off an arch roller for me to use, good stuff!
Rear calipers cleaned, part painted and freed up, re-greased etc.
Have replacement bolts for the LCAs, plenty of copperslip for them on assembly!
Having a break then back out again..........

[peterzs]

Must be feeling loads better!!!!

Left me knackered just reading it!!

Well done, specially in this heat!!

:beer2::beer2::beer2:

[Dan1971]

Having these bits to do have turned out to be good for you I think pal... Good effort... :bow:

[redzed]

What offset you get for the wheels? Theyre 9inch wide ones right? Get some pics up!

[grimmy]

Top work Mick.getting right in about it good man.

[petet16]

Good effort, dont forget the standard bolts to connect the arb to the Skunk LCA are the wrong thread, iirc the correct bolts are M10x1.25.

[stamford]

Having these bits to do have turned out to be good for you I think pal... Good effort... :bow:

Yes Dan, I needed something like this to take my mind off things and look forward. It seems to be working. Thanks :D

What offset you get for the wheels? Theyre 9inch wide ones right? Get some pics up!

No they are 8s. 2 off are 40, the other 2 are 33.

Top work Mick.getting right in about it good man.

Cheers mate, nice getting stuck in with no distractions, even the dogs are chilling in the heat and don't hassle me!

Good effort, dont forget the standard bolts to connect the arb to the Skunk LCA are the wrong thread, iirc the correct bolts are M10x1.25.

Not got that far yet, I need to clean and paint up the ARB and wait for replacement polybushes. I will check on this tomorrow.

[stamford]

Good effort, dont forget the standard bolts to connect the arb to the Skunk LCA are the wrong thread, iirc the correct bolts are M10x1.25.

Not checked the LCAs as they are now on the car and I am chilling so not going outside again today! So are the tapped holes in the arm wrong then? I just checked the old arms and they are standard M10x1.5.

[reaper0709]

good to hear your keeping busy :)
hope you have plenty of cold beers...forecast is very hot tomorrow.

[petet16]

Not checked the LCAs as they are now on the car and I am chilling so not going outside again today! So are the tapped holes in the arm wrong then? I just checked the old arms and they are standard M10x1.5.

I've got my LCAs here in front of me, I'll measure the holes, M10x1.25 it is.

[stamford]

Why are the holes tapped M10 fine? Is it for another fitment? Do I find bolts, however not standard, drill 10.5 and nut and bolt it? Probably the latter.

Todays work:


Rear discs, calipers, pads and braided hoses assembled.
ARB ground back to metal, ready to paint.
Front of car jacked up on axles now, so on all fours! (had to buy a new trolley jack to see me through, old one gave up the ghost, it is over 20 years old!)
Jet-washed the front suspension and inner wings.
Front calipers and discs removed. Discs were under bottom tolerance and pads well worn. Can't complain as the discs were the originals I believe.

[petet16]

I think the M10 fine bolts may be a bit of a Japanese thing, it's commonly found on Jap bikes, I'd planned to measure the bolt length's needed and source some M10x1.25, you'd very likely get away with running an M10x1.5 tap through them, the only drawback with opening them to 10.5 and using a nut and bolt is the possibility of the holes wearing.

[stamford]

Yes good point as it is under tension and may well 'ovalise' over time. No rush, I'll check the fixing supplier when back at work and see if they do any.

[talkingcars]

I recently bought a new jack to replace the one I've had for 26 years, it was the same make and 4p cheaper!

[stamford]

M10x1.25-50lg bolts sourced and bought, so no mods required. Will have a couple spare.

[petet16]

M10x1.25-50lg bolts sourced and bought, so no mods required. Will have a couple spare.

I'll buy the spares.

[stamford]

I'll buy the spares.

;)

[stamford]

Last night cleaned the front calipers and carriers and started to paint them. Got a few more coats to do until they look decent enough.

Rear ARB polybushes ordered.

[stamford]

ARB bolts arrived today-however they were screws not bolts. Supplier sending the correct ones tomorrow.

Gave the front calipers and carriers another coat of paint.

Started to paint the ARB and drop links.

[stamford]

More painting tonight. Front calipers another coat, plus some on the rears.
Polybushes arrived, thanks Drew.
Replacement ARB to LCA bolts arrived today.
Question regarding the HEL braided front hoses, as I have AVOs I seem to be lacking hose mounts. Has anyone fitted these? If so there is one plastic fitting on the hose itself, does this attach to the OE leg bracket somewhere. The AVOs do not have any brackets and the leg brackets are built into the OE hose assembly. Looks like I need to make a bracket up to support the hose and keep it safe.

[talkingcars]

I had to get hose mounts for my goodridge hoses, they were listed as civic items.

I can't find the page but here's their home page.
You'll need to order 2 as they come in singles.

http://goodridge.brakes-hoses-fittings.co.uk/

[talkingcars]

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=7482

[stamford]

Thanks James. I have decided to modify the ones from off the OE hose assembly and mount to the front leg position. Requires some cutting and filing but will do the job.

[talkingcars]

Thanks James. I have decided to modify the ones from off the OE hose assembly and mount to the front leg position. Requires some cutting and filing but will do the job.

That's what I did with the braided hoses on both the ZR and the F.

[stamford]

Trying to fit the ARB bushes to the drop link lower mount, a right biatch! Running out of patience! May need to shave a bit off the leading edge as they keep bursting over the edge of the hole. Tricky little buggers!

[peterzs]

got plenty of washing up liquid in the hole and on the rubbers!!!

:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

[stamford]

We are getting there.

This weekend got the following done:


All brake calipers and pads fitted.
Ball joint gaitors replaced.
Stainless braided hoses fitted and brackets made for fronts.
Brakes drained and bled. DOT 5.1 through the system.
Rear ARB fitted.
Front arch liners removed.
Front arches rolled.
Wheels on.
Car given a good clean.
Jobs remaining:

Just need to re-route the rear ABS cables along the LCA, might drill and tap the current pipe supports or remove and cable tie. Will play next weekend and decide.
NSF coil spring making a noise since I lifted the height a few turns, will drop some oil in the seats to see if this quietens it.
Adjust handbrake cable.
MOT it.
Tax it.
Mini service.
Interior clean.
Front disc/caliper
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0762_zpsc5c83ee1.jpg

Rear disc/caliper
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0759_zpsd110608b.jpg


Rear Disc/caliper/LCA and cleaned up ARB and polybushes
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0767_zps567f5157.jpg

Front caliper with modified hose brackets.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0761_zps15206985.jpg


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0760_zps54874c17.jpg


New rimmage and rubber.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0775_zps2161a20e.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0774_zpsefb5e8a7.jpg

A quick clean up.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0772_zps132b4a9a.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/MG%20ZS180/IMG_0769_zps89908435.jpg

[petet16]

Been busy, looking smooth

[Craig-ZS180]

Aahhh.. So you bought them Mick. Must admit I dribbled a bit when I first saw that mate, love the wheels and especially on a lowered zs. The arches look great too, subtly noticeable and it really suits the car.

Well done mate, coming along very nicely and looking superb :D

[peterzs]

looking good, worth all the effort.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[stamford]

Kathy was having a guess this afternoon as to how much I have spent on it this year. I didn't argue as she was probably slightly under :whistle:

It has been a gradual spend so has been easier to manage. I am not bothered as I have had it since it was around 18 months old and have not spent a great deal on it over those years. Most parts have been consumable items. The wheels were something I sneaked in over a few months and needed tyres regardless as the old 18s were well worn.

Better the devil you know I say and I still enjoy driving it.

[Dan1971]

Good work pal .... well done.

[andys1981]

its good that youve been doing stuff to the zs,must say its looking great mick well done

[stamford]

I must admit I have needed a kick up the arse as I was not going to bother due to this year being such a **** one. But it has been a nice distraction albeit a tough one what with the weather being so bloody hot!

[reaper0709]

Wow you have been busy. Looks awesome mate, well done!:)

[grimmy]

It's coming together nicsely Mic.k top wor.k glad to see this one close to being back on the road where it belongs.

[stamford]

Cheers mate, hopefully be MOT'd end of this month and ready for August. That was the aim as have a week off with the missus and we are away for our 28th anniversary. So would be ideal to terrorise Dorset and Devon with the zed :D

[stamford]

Handbrake issues today, tried to adjust the handbrake only to find the nearside cable a tad bit tight. We'll see come next Saturday when it has its MOT, borderline if it passes methinks, might be a job for the garage as has enough being under it in this weather! Ramp access will be easier. Headlight bulb changed and that is about it.

[peterzs]

Every thing crossed, bet you have lost another stone!!!!

[POMPSKI]

Looking great - Very fresh

[stamford]

Nearly done for now. MOT'd with no advisories but could do with a new nearside handbrake cable as it is not 100%, just scraped through the test.

Tax ordered and will run from tomorrow so guess I can drive it if I wanted to.

New number plates arrived, very nice too! :D

Just need to put the rear centre console back in and give the door shuts, boot shut and petrol flap a good clean. Also need to jetwash the bloody spiders out of the mirrors! :blink:

Hopefully get some miles on it this weekend to settle the suspension and see how it sits and wheel/tyre clearance.

Really looking ahead and wanting to do something with the wheel arches, some cutting and making new ones a la BTCC possibly............

Need to do some other jobs first (missus has a list!) and look back to replacing some more bushes with poly versions and perhaps some Civic parts ;)

I hope that after some 8 months of it being off the road I am not expecting too much as been driving my CDTi Vectra every day and that is a nice drive. Probably find the vis motors playing up!

[petet16]

Are your rear calipers working ok Mick ?, they cause more handbrake issues than the cables.

[stamford]

Calipers are fine as tested them. With the console removed you can see what the cables are doing and the nearside is not as free as the offside, plus with the caliper end disconnected you can easily pull the offside cable in/out and not so on the offending side. Plus operating the cable linkage at the caliper end they both actuate with ease and hold the disc.

Probably a cheap part but with the need to remove the underside shields and exposing tunnel grommits it'll be a pita no doubt.

[petet16]

Yes, most likely will be a pita

[petet16]

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-SPB000590P

[stamford]

Yep. I'll look at this another time, had enough working under it lately, just won't park on steep hills!

[petet16]

Keep a house brick in the boot for a chock.:smile1:

[stamford]

I have some wooden ones I use for trackdays as the handbrake doesn't get used during the day.

Which reminds me, I was hoping to fit in one or two before the year is out then found out I only had 1/2 day holiday left, apparently I used my quota of bereavement days then had to take holiday! Them feckers at ACAS think 3 days is sufficient for losing a parent!

[Steven11]

You'll need to change your avatar pic to one with your new rimms Mick. Looks a bit strange, im use to seeing your zed with the darker 5 spokes.

[stamford]

On my list to do once it is road legal and a photo opportunity beckons! :yes:

[talkingcars]

Them feckers at ACAS think 3 days is sufficient for losing a parent!

That's not good, my employer, who are as tight as wheel nut fitted by kwik fit asked if 2 weeks was enough, no mention of using holiday, when my mum died.

[p_b82]

I get 2 days paid... but i can take more unpaid..... although that might change to be less US focused soon.

But glad to hear that the car is coming along nicely, you'll be glad to get in it again and go for a drive!

[POMPSKI]

Wow.... That is shocking chaps.

The Air Force give you at least 2 weeks, and more if you require it, for a parent.

[stamford]

I'm looking to maybe give it a run tomorrow to work, a Friday treat :D But before then I will double check the gov website to make sure I can drive it as waiting for the tax disc to arrive as it has been sorned since November. Not sure if the same applies if sorned when re-taxing a car and driving it without displaying a disc? It will feel weird as I have only driven the Vectra ever since!

[stamford]

Wow.... That is shocking chaps.

The Air Force give you at least 2 weeks, and more if you require it, for a parent.

Not only did I take the day off he was actually dying, but the next day and another the same week, plus one for the funeral arrangements, the funeral itself and the day after as felt like ****. 3 days is all they allow...................who can assess the time you need and how it hits you? No two people deal with it in the same way. I still have bad days even now and no doubt will forever and a day......... :sad:

[ZS]

I think you can be fined for failure to display a valid tax disc...

As for time off... I was allowed 2 days off after he went and one day for the funeral... I had to take the day after the funeral off sick...

[petet16]

Wow.... That is shocking chaps.

The Air Force give you at least 2 weeks, and more if you require it, for a parent.

Sadly, it's the way things are outside the military, I used sick leave for my parents, and no longer work for British Airways, terrible employer.

[Steven11]

My son was daignosed with Meningitis when he was 4 weeks old and my work (Audi) gave me 2 weeks at full pay and told me if i needed any more just to ask. Exact words i was told by the company director was (family always comes first).

[stamford]

My son was daignosed with Meningitis when he was 4 weeks old and my work (Audi) gave me 2 weeks at full pay and told me if i needed any more just to ask. Exact words i was told by the company director was (family always comes first).

My thoughts exactly, I've walked out of work before now stating the above much to the annoyance of my line manager. I told him in no uncertain terms what to do with views, he never spoke about it again, found out he had a family matter soon after and changed his views on the subject! These days employers have to be savvy concerning employee rights and most will go by the book and just give the minimum. I cannot complain too much as they paid me but what price do you put on such trauma? Rights for newborns just don't stack up when compared to losing a loved one.

[grimmy]

I got five days with the council and an extra day as I was organising the funeral.just decided **** em and took two weeks off on the sick.doctor was more than happy to.sign me off as my head was a mess.

[stamford]

I got five days with the council and an extra day as I was organising the funeral.just decided **** em and took two weeks off on the sick.doctor was more than happy to.sign me off as my head was a mess.

I think I should have done something similar as I was struggling to do anything in this time.

[stamford]

I think you can be fined for failure to display a valid tax disc

I did some trawling as I remember reading something a while back and found this:

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/car-tax-rules


and the attached.

So looks like I am legally entitled to drive the car as I have bought the tax prior to the month due to start (and have not driven it before hand) and prior to the SORN expiring. Unless you search for such information it is not obvious or made clear.

[talkingcars]

It used to be 5 days grace if you applied on line, I would print a copy of the screen and carry it until the disc arrives.

[stamford]

Fitted my new number plates then took it for a shake-down. All seems well, feels strange as not driven it for 8 months! Then on my return noticed the offside rear brake disc was hot and my new paint burning! Looks like I need to back off the handbrake a tad. So a job for Saturday, so no Friday treat for me to work and back :sad:

[Maxfly]

Hmm we are up to 5days here but possibly as with other places it depends on you manager and collegues, here I know they would work out what needs covered and sort it so time off could be taken as required. Unlikely to be same in all other boxes mind you.

Good to hear the ZS is almost fully rolling again. As talking says, there is a 5 day grace period at least anything after that a it can be "failure to display valid tax disc". Now it could be more as I think it may have been a week as I had to temporarily park up the new ZS as the wait for plate changes eyc meant tax had fan out and didn't have fresh one to display.

[Maxfly]

Hmm we are up to 5days here but possibly as with other places it depends on you manager and collegues, here I know they would work out what needs covered and sort it so time off could be taken as required. Unlikely to be same in all other boxes mind you.

Good to hear the ZS is almost fully rolling again. As talking says, there is a 5 day grace period at least anything after that a it can be "failure to display valid tax disc". Now it could be more as I think it may have been a week as I had to temporarily park up the new ZS as the wait for plate changes eyc meant tax had fan out and didn't have fresh one to display.

[Maxfly]

Think this link has the info you need mickhttp://m.askthe.police.uk/content/Q370.htm?viewsinglecontentelementid=26671

[stamford]

Quite a Saturday morning here, had to go and get a couple of tyres for the front of the Vectra as they were shot. When I got back I couldn't park as the road was swarming with contractors removing the old lamp posts and digging trenches for the electrics as they have all been moved by a metre. Well happy as we had a post right on the edge of the driveway and was a right pita, now it is a metre away. However wasn't happy as they parked a fecking truck across my drive, blocked that and most of the road! Later the truck moved, good! Got the zed out of the corner and infront of the garage and got the handbrake issue addressed. Whilst indoors they dug a trench infront of the drive and now I only have access for one car, instead of the usual three! So a bunfight will be on the cards later when everyone comes home!

Anyway I digress big time :laugh:

Tax turned up today so no need to panic driving it whilst waiting! Zed is sitting on the drive waiting for an opportune moment to go and play :evil:

Needs another clean as dusty from the digger, cutting and kanga action this morning! Must get some photos too.

[daytona365]

Great to hear its on the move again..........May see it at a few meets soon........A good blast to clear away the cobwebs..

[stamford]

I've now used the zed for the second day to work this week. Last night on the commute home I think I have woken the ecu up as it drove differently last night :D Not only did it surprise me but also the BMW that was trying to get past me and gave up! I did too when I glanced at the speedo! :oops:

Anyway the zed feels a lot tighter on the road then I remember, maybe all in the mind, but may also be the polybushed ARB and new LCAs on the back. The new tyres feel really grippy too, it was quite damp this morning.

Might take a slight detour tonight and do the Hindhead tunnel :w00t:

[Skillen]

:morepics:

I want to see these arches and clearance!
See if I can lower mine or not.

I had a mad thought last night that I should just start cutting the metal away and hiding it with the body kit haha!

[andys1981]

I've now used the zed for the second day to work this week. Last night on the commute home I think I have woken the ecu up as it drove differently last night :D Not only did it surprise me but also the BMW that was trying to get past me and gave up! I did too when I glanced at the speedo! :oops:

Anyway the zed feels a lot tighter on the road then I remember, maybe all in the mind, but may also be the polybushed ARB and new LCAs on the back. The new tyres feel really grippy too, it was quite damp this morning.

Might take a slight detour tonight and do the Hindhead tunnel :w00t:

good stuff mick glad to hear the zeds putting a smile on yer face,if you do go home via tunnel,put your phone on record lol,let us hear it

[stamford]

:morepics:

I want to see these arches and clearance!
See if I can lower mine or not.

I had a mad thought last night that I should just start cutting the metal away and hiding it with the body kit haha!

Nothing to see tbh, just rolled them but they don't look any different! I'm going to see a bodyshop tomorrow to get a feel on cost to cut the arches away and fit either hotrod ones or mk1 Golf flares.

good stuff mick glad to hear the zeds putting a smile on yer face,if you do go home via tunnel,put your phone on record lol,let us hear it

Could do! :D

[Dan1971]

Glad you're enjoying it again Mick. Too good to be sitting around collecting dust !

[daytona365]

We should do a group "drive through" mmmmmmmmm

[peterzs]

A Tunnels run.............................. Sounds good!!!!!

:beer::beer::beer:

[stamford]

Dropped by a bodyshop this morning to get a feel for the work required and price for flaring the arches, reshaping the bumpers etc. He said he could roll the fronts and shape the bumper to match as these are pretty good to start with. The rears require more work as little to work with but he can panel beat them out and heat the bumper to reshape it to suit. With that done and painted around £500-600. So the current set-up will clear at all times and no rubbing. We'll see if the BTCC kit comes to fruition as that has gone quiet so I have another avenue to go later on.

[stamford]

Rear camber adjusters fitted today, quick clean and polish but no time for photos! Rubs too much when 4 up!

[peterzs]

Rear seats out again, simples.

[stamford]

Rear seats out again, simples.

Indeed :D

[peterzs]

Trouble is I was just joking!!!!

:):):):)

[stamford]

Yea but thinking about it again it was nice when it was lighter but a tad noisy! I don't need the rear doors :whistle:

[ZS]

Yea but thinking about it again it was nice when it was lighter but a tad noisy! I don't need the rear doors :whistle:

Reduce weight eh?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgKvDw1E60E

Three part video (other two parts are linked at the end) on DIY creating a Carbon Bonnet...

[redzed]

:morepics:

I want to see these arches and clearance!
See if I can lower mine or not.

I had a mad thought last night that I should just start cutting the metal away and hiding it with the body kit haha!

That's what I've done on my track zed. Cut the metal away behind the plastic arch and fiberglassed under the arch. Works fine, I've even has spacers on my btcc wheels and it didn't rub.

[stamford]

Bit of an update.

Alcantara has already gone and stripped permanently this time! Currently have a Corbeau Club Sport fibreglass bucket seat. Spent yesterday on the zed. Removed the AVO coilovers and fitting a set of GAZ in their place, got some setting up to do. I was worried about this as the AVO set up was superb so need to replicate this on the GAZ. First test was aweful, too soft and bouncy! Adjusted the rear upper arms a little. Also fitted the BuddyClub adjustable front upper arms, got some setting up there as well. Also got a set of polybushed front lower arms to clean, paint and fit.

Might spend some time this morning doing some adjustments to get it where I want it, however feeling a little stiff after yesterdays work, oh the signs of getting old! :laugh:

[splinter]

Sounds fun lol

Are you likely to get her out on track this year? Would be interested in seeing how it works and your thoughts

[Deckz]

Coilovers you say………… lol

[stamford]

Sounds fun lol

Are you likely to get her out on track this year? Would be interested in seeing how it works and your thoughts

I may towards the end of the year. Got the wife's 50th after christmas so more expense to plan for! Next year will be better planned for track days! The last one I did the handling was spot on, it was the brakes that let me down but that area is now well sorted ;)

Coilovers you say………… lol

Yes, at long last :whistle:

[peterzs]

Looking forward to seeing it, where it should be, MG's on Track at Goodwood!!

:beer::beer::beer:

[stamford]

I was asked about the zed's spec and as this one has been work in progress over the last 10+ years I guess I ought to list the work done. There have been various threads in various sections over the years but nothing in one thread. Nothing like some have done but I ain't finished yet! :laugh:

I'll update this as I go as I know I have a list on the home pc with what's been done.

[stamford]

Thought I had better do some updates. Well the zed is sorned and as it is having starting issues I have just left it. It's not looking happy but life is throwing other things at me which are more important than the car.



The dash is currently undergoing some gauge mods to liven it up a bit, so there's the usual wiring and plumbing to sort out.
Induction kit has been removed and due to the piping issues at the last trackday and having to use tank tape to repair I have deiced to do something different. So plans are to relocate the battery back to where it was before, inside the cabin. Then use the space where the battery was to mount the BMC and keep it away from the radiator. Get some alloy pipes and new hoses as the current ones are looking tired and soft.
Look to remove the aircon system and pump and anything else that's wasting away.
Remove the sound deadening material. Think that'll be the old fashioned way as no idea where I would get my hands on dry ice.
The biggest job is to cut the wheels arches out and up and fabricate some wider arches similar to the national hotrods and those I used to fit when racing on the ovals. Given up with the BTCC route as that seems pretty dead now. Would like to do this as per the BTCC but requires alot of mods and work to copy it.

[redzed]

Look forward to the updates! You can buy dry ice from gas suppliers like boc etc, easy to get if you can google local places, it's soooo much easier and better than using a heat gun and the metal is left scratch free and clean after.

Thought I had better do some updates. Well the zed is sorned and as it is having starting issues I have just left it. It's not looking happy but life is throwing other things at me which are more important than the car.



The dash is currently undergoing some gauge mods to liven it up a bit, so there's the usual wiring and plumbing to sort out.
Induction kit has been removed and due to the piping issues at the last trackday and having to use tank tape to repair I have deiced to do something different. So plans are to relocate the battery back to where it was before, inside the cabin. Then use the space where the battery was to mount the BMC and keep it away from the radiator. Get some alloy pipes and new hoses as the current ones are looking tired and soft.
Look to remove the aircon system and pump and anything else that's wasting away.
Remove the sound deadening material. Think that'll be the old fashioned way as no idea where I would get my hands on dry ice.
The biggest job is to cut the wheels arches out and up and fabricate some wider arches similar to the national hotrods and those I used to fit when racing on the ovals. Given up with the BTCC route as that seems pretty dead now. Would like to do this as per the BTCC but requires alot of mods and work to copy it.

[talkingcars]

Induction kit has been removed and due to the piping issues at the last trackday and having to use tank tape to repair I have deiced to do something different. So plans are to relocate the battery back to where it was before, inside the cabin. Then use the space where the battery was to mount the BMC and keep it away from the radiator. Get some alloy pipes and new hoses as the current ones are looking tired and soft.

I like that idea, it seriously reduces inlet temps on my car.

[stamford]

I like that idea, it seriously reduces inlet temps on my car.

It makes sense. It can be a bit tight down by the radiator plus up in that space where the battery is makes it easier to maintain. Can't really complain where it has been for the past 10 years as never had flow issues just maintenance.

[stamford]

Look forward to the updates! You can buy dry ice from gas suppliers like boc etc, easy to get if you can google local places, it's soooo much easier and better than using a heat gun and the metal is left scratch free and clean after.

Found spray versions at Screwfix, youtube videos show this method so will give that a go and see how it performs.

[Dan1971]

Feel free to announce a BBQ and all hands on deck day ... ;)

[stamford]

Feel free to announce a BBQ and all hands on deck day ... ;)

We do need a get together, long overdue. Funny that as nearly finished tidying the garden and decking so a BBQ is on the cards to kick off the summer..............if we see one!

[talkingcars]

This was the install on my mk1

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/305423_288055064545101_1069874528_n.jpg?oh=4e3175d 40e87713ad2495f88da8b1ea4&oe=5837529F

(a bit grubby but you get the idea)

I plan to tee the throttle by-pass into the main hose as currently it draws hot air at tick over so the ECU applies the correct map for a hot intake.
As soon as you start to drive it has to adjust to a much cooler intake.

On the mk1 I still had the resonator box in place and the car tended to run about 5' above ambient.
On the mk2 there is no resonator box and it seems to be up to about 8' above.
I plan to cover the gap under the chassis rail with a plastic panel to stop heat from the radiator drifting into the under wing area.

[daytona365]

This was the install on my mk1

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/305423_288055064545101_1069874528_n.jpg?oh=4e3175d 40e87713ad2495f88da8b1ea4&oe=5837529F

(a bit grubby but you get the idea)

I plan to tee the throttle by-pass into the main hose as currently it draws hot air at tick over so the ECU applies the correct map for a hot intake.
As soon as you start to drive it has to adjust to a much cooler intake.

On the mk1 I still had the resonator box in place and the car tended to run about 5' above ambient.
On the mk2 there is no resonator box and it seems to be up to about 8' above.
I plan to cover the gap under the chassis rail with a plastic panel to stop heat from the radiator drifting into the under wing area.


you are right thats FILTHY......

[stamford]

Yes that's the idea James. Just been outside to do some more work bumper off, crash bar off. Found a pin size leak in the radiator, so that's got to come out now. So will be stripping the aircon system for sure as access will be easier. Found some rust around the front seams.

[stamford]

More done tonight. Headlights out. Condenser removed, some aircon pipes. Quite a few rusty brackets and fixings found. Rad fan connectors won't budge, had to cut the wires. It's starting to look like a breaker! Next will be to get the nose up on stands and drop the radiator as this needs either recording or a replacement. Then I can remove the aircon pump.

[Dan1971]

Good man. :clap:

[redzed]

More done tonight. Headlights out. Condenser removed, some aircon pipes. Quite a few rusty brackets and fixings found. Rad fan connectors won't budge, had to cut the wires. It's starting to look like a breaker! Next will be to get the nose up on stands and drop the radiator as this needs either recording or a replacement. Then I can remove the aircon pump.

Take some pics!

[stamford]

I've taken some pics, will post them later, too tired now.
Managed to remove the radiator, engine mount, auxiliary belt, aircon compressor and the aircon pipes. My idea many years ago to use stainless hex socket button heads on the slam panel was a bad as couldn't undo them! Had to drill them out as the hex rounded off!

[stamford]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1750_zpstfgtofbd.jpg

Looking sorry for itself!

Ordered a few bits to get me moving. Non air con aux belt and a pair of steel trailer arches :sly:

Machined up a new reducer from Delrin for the BMC to TB as the BMC one was oval and not gripping the hose, so a thicker walled one was the way forward, nice snug fit on the BMC and hose.

[stamford]

A few more bits off and found some rust that needs treating around the front tow brackets and inner wings, dirt traps. Looks like one bit may need a plate welding in place, won't know until I get the wheel off and remove the sealant etc.

Just done a dummy BMC install where the battery would normally be, ideal position and I have the necessary hoses already, little mods to do to make this work. Just ordered a new flexible hose as the current one is well past it. Got a few brackets to machine wire brush and ready for paint, might as well whilst it is in pieces! I can see this work snowballing and becoming something different!

[Dan1971]

Good man. :trampoline:

[talkingcars]

I can see this work snowballing and becoming something different!

Keep us posted.

[stamford]

Well a trip to Halfords ended up over £40 lighter, spray hammerite (blue), rust treatment, stonechip spray and a bottle of CO2 for the welder, hopefully get that working again. So that's me ready for some more work tomorrow and thereafter. Got a few brackets to sort and after getting the lower rad fan brackets off they need a couple of bits turning up on the lathe as they have rusted away so much.

[daytona365]

If you need any help let us know......................always glad to help keep the blue beast running....

[stamford]

If you need any help let us know......................always glad to help keep the blue beast running....

Cheers Gordon. About time we got together as seems ages ago!

[peterzs]

I have a big club hammer, for sorting the delicate bits.

:group::group::group:

[stamford]

I have a big club hammer, for sorting the delicate bits.

:group::group::group:


Funny that............had a lump hammer and small chisel as the old induction lower bracket wouldn't budge, rounded bolt head!

[peterzs]

14 lb sledge handy as well.

:):):)

[grimmy]

Glad to see you are finding the motivation to get started on it again Mick.

[stamford]

Glad to see you are finding the motivation to get started on it again Mick.

Thanks Grimmy. Yea took some doing but into it now.

Stripping parts off to clean it and service it has highlighted several areas of corrosion, expected for something 14 years old I guess. Making up some cardboard templates ready to transfer to sheet steel. MIG welder recommissioned, no great but working. Ideally I would like to buy a new one.

Brackets cleaned, ground and sprayed with smooth hammerite. Need to get the wheels off so I can access the inner wing rust areas, one of these needs a plate as well. Front nearside tie down hanger is bad.

Ordered some M6 hex head flanged bolts in stainless to replace all those removed as they are pretty bad.

[grimmy]

Thanks Grimmy. Yea took some doing but into it now.

Stripping parts off to clean it and service it has highlighted several areas of corrosion, expected for something 14 years old I guess. Making up some cardboard templates ready to transfer to sheet steel. MIG welder recommissioned, no great but working. Ideally I would like to buy a new one.

Brackets cleaned, ground and sprayed with smooth hammerite. Need to get the wheels off so I can access the inner wing rust areas, one of these needs a plate as well. Front nearside tie down hanger is bad.

Ordered some M6 hex head flanged bolts in stainless to replace all those removed as they are pretty bad.

Nice one .my old bus is still going strong.it does have bit of an issue gearbox wise and the front jacking points are bit ropey but apart from that it seems fine.again not bad for 12 years old.

[stamford]

Treated the rusty bits, all looking much better. You have reminded me Grimmy, I have jacking points that need attention! Another one on the list to add! Before rain stopped play I managed to get inside and remove the remainder of the aircon system, dropped the matrix and filter, another useless lump removed! Need to knock up a couple of machined parts this week.

[p_b82]

Glad to read that progress is being made...

I'm in a frustrating point of limbo.. should have sorned the car, or not left it so long on the hope that I'd get the one vital part I need to get the last bits done "tomorrow" or I should have just picked it up and driven it as it was without the new bits...

Been 9 months now and still no progress :(

What with new a car on the drive, my enthusiasm is ebbing faster and faster...

[stamford]

Pete if I had your car on my drive mine would be the same! No shame in that!

All I can say is.............'Relearn MG' :D

[talkingcars]

If it's any consolation my T16 maestro wears a tax disc that expired in December 2007.

[p_b82]

Pete if I had your car on my drive mine would be the same! No shame in that!

All I can say is.............'Relearn MG' :D

If I could get in it and drive it, I am sure the love would return, but it's 150miles away outside a farm workshop still!

Due to my dad's recent hospital stay, I did 1000 miles in under a month.... One thing I can say, she's a lot thirstier than a diesel ZS ever will be... My US friend nearly had a heart attack when I told her how much that had cost me in fuel!

[stamford]

Had a few bits in the post this week. Busy weekend ahead if things go to plan!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1761_zpslr5tvw9g.jpg

Machined these up this week, both mounts totally corroded, lower fan bracket and mount post.

[sneekyparrot]

looking good Mick, glad to see you have the will to work on the zed back.

amazing the difference a few days can make :-)

P.

[stamford]

Quite right Paul. As it is sorned I am now more compelled to get stuck in with no self imposed deadlines. So it'll be done when it's done.

[stamford]

Took a stab at repairing the hole in the radiator, nothing to lose by trying it, so bought some chemical metal as used this before with very good results, so applied and quick spray paint and all's good.

Ordered some more stainless fixings to replace rusty ones. Fitted the non-aircon aux belt and refitted the engine mounts.

Made a steel template up for the tow hanger that is rusty, welder is bust so need to buy a new one, that's holding me up as need to weld the plate in position before popping the rad back in. Just ordered a 180amp inverter MIG welder, very good reviews and on 12 months 0% so a no-brainer really. Then I can get on and do the inner wing repairs and ready for when I start on the wheel arch mods ;) Photos to follow.

[petet16]

Good to see things moving along, I've had good results with JB Weld on rad repairs

[daytona365]

Sounds like its coming along nicely,,,,

[stamford]

A little update.



Radiator back in, brackets painted.
Waiting for top hose T piece for temp sensor for gauge before final fit.
Waiting for Mikalor hose clips to turn up.
Stainless steel fixings replacing all old rusted ones, greased up before fitting.
Currently re-wiring the battery location, kill switch and new dash panel.
Welded repair panel to n/s strap hanger.
Waiting for connectors and cable to finish off kill switch wiring and dash gauges.
Trial fit of wheel arch flares, first type was too big on the radius, second smaller version ordered was a perfect fit. Need to by another arch so I can split that into two.
Rust treated front end, still have a repair panel to weld into the inner o/s/f wing area.

Still looking sorry for itself but it'll come good eventually. Hard to get a days work in as there is always something to buy that holds up progress.


Next tool is a sheet metal punch, not doing it the hole saw way, finish is crap!

[peterzs]

Be good to see, when its all back together.

MG's on track at Goodwood??

:):):)

[ZS]

Wish I knew how to weld lol - and yes I know I can do a night course, I have considered it many a time, but it takes up precious family time going back to college

Be good to see, when its all back together.

MG's on track at Goodwood??

:):):)

That sounds good actually... would be interested in something like that myself once I have done a few more things to my ZS!

[Dan1971]

Good man.

[peterzs]

:group::group::group: :):):)

[stamford]

Defo MGoT when it's done, really missed hitting the circuits. This week the missus will be giving me funny looks with all the little packets turning up!

[daytona365]

Good to see him coming along nicely.........Even better when its back on the road/track

[talkingcars]

Wish I knew how to weld lol - and yes I know I can do a night course, I have considered it many a time, but it takes up precious family time going back to college




3 hours one evening a week for a term gets you a good grounding.

[stamford]

Slow progress being made........

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1768_zpsyfxiq5ax.jpg
Induction layout so far.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1769_zps63amqw96.jpg
Temperature sensor and hose 'T' for dash gauge.


Running wires for the gauges. Swapped the sump plug for the Elise adaptor and sensor, that was easier and not as messy as expected. Just need to do the pressure switch adaptor which looks a little tricky with limited space to fit the other parts.

Cables re-routed/remade and run for the battery master switch and relocated battery. Just need to work out the loom and locations to re-route through the master switch terminals for the ecu and pump isolation. One problem encountered so far........I cannot find my battery box! So contemplating either a new one, an alloy chassis bracket or a gel type race battery. As it is a track car and not MSA spec it doesn't need a battery box, but looks better if it was in one.

Dash gauge placement was not as expected, dash panel needs fettling to clear the bezels or it won't sit right.

Some interior work to do, but that'll come in time as my 'to do' list is growing! If I keep this up it won't be on the road for ages!

[Dan1971]

.....


..

Dash gauge placement was not as expected, dash panel needs fettling to clear the bezels or it won't sit right.

..

In the boot of mine, Jay left some bits. Amongst it are a few pod type things that were in the A-frame pillar bit. Any good to you ?

[stamford]

Not sure I need them tbh as got them in the front centre vent position, thanks anyway :thumbsup:

[Dan1971]

OK - think they are oil temp and battery or something .... no worries though.

[talkingcars]

The induction looks almost the same as mine, are you adding another elbow to draw from the inner wing?

I am planning to replace the smaller filter with an elbow tee'd off the main intake, at the moment it draws the radiator heated air raising the "temperature" of the inlet when travelling in slow traffic so running a hot air map, then when one gets moving it's like it takes a big gulp of cooler air through the main filter and adjusts the map accordingly.
Probably less of an issue on a track car.

When I first ran the set up I still had the resonator box in place but when I removed that I found the main filter ran warmer, I guess the resonator acted as a baffle reducing the amount of warm engine bay air reaching the inner wing. I have the materials to blank this space under the chassis rail, just haven't used it yet (4 years and counting).

What is the advantage of running the extra temp gauge?

[talkingcars]

Is the battery going behind the seat again or in the boot?
If it is the boot the cable can go under the car.

When I moved my battery I ran a new lead from the under bonnet fusebox to the starter.
I then sniped out the cut out next to the bolt in the fusebox that holds this lead.
I used this to add the lead to the battery.

[stamford]

Battery is behind the passenger seat, cables all sorted.

Looked at the bodywork today and got brutal! Long given up on the BTCC kit that was being mooted a few years back. I have decided to try the hotrod route, this is something I used well over 25 years ago when building oval racers. As this is just the track car and not an everyday or show car I don't mind doing this. I want it to look different and a little aggressive ;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG-20161002-WA0003_zpsap6dzkau.jpeg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG-20161002-WA0005_zpsppolaopc.jpeg

Take a steel trailer arch, (arch radius to suit wheel arch to be modified) cut in half and offer to wing to be modified. The rest is a leap of faith, cutting disc and MIG welder!

I am still finding my feet with the new welder so this is just a temporary fit until I am happy with the position and clearance. Still need practice! It'll take a few attempts until I am happy and can then detail the final fit and then cut the arch and bond this to the bumper so it can still be removed. This is going to be a long process as having to do this outside.

[talkingcars]

Better results than I got with my first use of my mig, are you using gasless because that looks like a lack of gas shield (listen to me, I sound like I think I'm an expert).

[stamford]

Better results than I got with my first use of my mig, are you using gasless because that looks like a lack of gas shield (listen to me, I sound like I think I'm an expert).

My last welder was a Snap-On 130 turbo and was easy to use and set up, this latest one has more controls so I need to find the right settings and log them. So I will be using my spare sheet steel to find the right settings etc. I really need to get a decent gas set up as currently using a throwaway bottle and not good quality. My biggest problem is getting back into it as not done any welding for probably 20 years!

[Dan1971]

Oh Mick ....

Am I the only one thinking - My God ! What have you done .... !!!! ???? :drunk:

Hope you can get it all done to your high standards and sure it'll work out well in the end ..... :clover:

[redzed]

Nice work!!!

[stamford]

Oh Mick ....

Am I the only one thinking - My God ! What have you done .... !!!! ???? :drunk:

Hope you can get it all done to your high standards and sure it'll work out well in the end ..... :clover:

I thought that too Dan! :laugh:

I really wanted to do something different and seeing this is an old mk1 and not a show car as such I thought ****** it and do it!

Nice work!!!

Hopefully when the work goes to plan. Re-positioned the arch again and looks better. Cut the nearside off and will be fettling that today (day off). The hard part will be bonding the rear section to the bumper before slitting the arch so they are separated.

[MG ZS STE]

i like it, cant wait to see the finished article.

[stamford]

Not much to report as been nursing a damaged back for the last 5 weeks from the karting accident. Plus the weather has kicked in and stopped me doing little things. Today was on the cards to do some more bodywork but it is pissing it down out there! I have started to remove the tar from the floor, doing it the old way, heat gun and scraper as no access to dry ice. Had my 5AS and fobs for several weeks now but not had a chance to test them yet. I have a list of things to work through in the hope it'll be ready for PoL but I will assess this nearer the time, no point in rushing it. It won't be perfect but it isn't a show car, it is one to get used!

[stamford]

Grabbed a couple of hours today before the light faded, painkillers got me through!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1777_zps3jiwt0sq.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1774_zpscgcqmy3y.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1783_zpsiprfhvtu.jpg

That's the rear two arches in position. Bonded Bighead fasteners to the rear bumper sections inside, I'll weld a couple of brackets to the rear arch section, screw these to the Bighead fasteners, Once set in position I can then slit the wheel arch free so they are now separated. Once done I can then remove the bumper and then glassfibre the arch section to the bumper then fill and blend in. Another little learning curve as I am not a panel beater or bodywork specialist! So doing it my way as an engineer probably would!

Oh I changed the welding wire to flux cored and went gasless as was welding outside and had much improved welds, so the gas was getting blown away, didn't think it would be that bad as hardly any wind but it certainly made a big difference.

Reinstalled 5AS and fobs didn't work, emailed Paul to find a solution or see if I can remove the immobiliser as it is a pita!

[p_b82]

still glad to see that things a re ticking along, it's going to look good once done I'm sure :)

[daytona365]

Looking good..

[Lukeus101]

You should sell these as a kit Mick ;)

[ZS Phil]

Wow, ain't no going back from that! Hope you get the results you hope for, can see the potential though.

[stamford]

Looking good..

Cheers.

You should sell these as a kit Mick ;)

No chance! Too much work involved and being brave with a cutting disc!

Wow, ain't no going back from that! Hope you get the results you hope for, can see the potential though.

No going back at all. Hopefully it will turn out close to where I want it. Still to cut the front arches yet.



Not much done lately, weather crap and low daylight hours. Scraped some more sound deadening from the floors, plenty more to remove. Car still won't fire up, now no power at all. Cabling needs investigating so could be the right time to strip the wiring loom of all redundant cables. Started to remove all SRS wiring. The way things are going I may well be working on this for some time. The plan was to get this ready for PoL 2017, not a chance now, no point in rushing it.

[stamford]

Well after some more thought and looking at the car I have decided to gut the interior, strip it right back to the metal, remove the dash and strip what I can from the loom and tidy it up. May even relocate a few things to make it easier to trace etc. At least I will have the interior prepped for when a roll cage can be fitted at some point.

[stamford]

Made the most of a few hours of sunshine. Stripped some more floor soundproofing. Jacked the rear back up on axle stands in readiness to trim and bond the rear arch extensions. It is looking quite unloved! Hopefully the better days are coming to get stuck in and make progress.

[Dan1971]

"Do stuff" BBQ in the summer maybe .... ?

[stamford]

"Do stuff" BBQ in the summer maybe .... ?

Yea up for one of those again, get stuff done!

[daytona365]

Yea up for one of those again, get stuff done!

We got plenty done last time.......:trampoline:

[stamford]

Spent this morning sorting the rear arches. Fibre glassed the rear quarter arch sections to the bumper, quite pleased how they went, very rigid. I need to make up a small strap to connect the arch where it meets the shell or wing as cannot use the captive nut where the front edge of the bumper attaches to the wing. I have seen some sort of quick strap used but can't find them. Helps to remove quickly when required.

[p_b82]

Will certainly be intrigued to see this when finished :)

[stamford]

Will certainly be intrigued to see this when finished :)

Me too!

[stamford]

Oh well, that's the heater matrix, unit and blower gone, wasn't in the plan but decided to bin it all. Will look to get a lightweight unit from the likes of Demon Tweeks or Europa probably.

[talkingcars]

Considered an electric heater instead, they are fitted to Audi cabs and I think you can get the same for race cars.

Also worth considering a heated front screen.

[stamford]

Here's a few photos so far.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1955_zps2vxltzuq.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1956_zpsn0qhv3v8.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1954_zpspnvxxigm.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l259/stamfordzs180/IMG_1958_zps9clvc4yk.jpg

Rear bumper quarter extensions cut and fibre glassed to reinforce, quite happy with how they went, nice and stiff after a couple of layers. Filling and sanding ahead. Front arches next to chop out and weld in.

The rusty discs have been flex-honed and look like new, painted the hub areas and carriers whilst at it.

[Mark S]

a couple of electric fans heaters will help keep the screen clear for a short while, assuming you've already layered up fogx etc.
If you had 3 pointing down from the upper roll bar and 3 pointing up from the dash you'd probably have an effective method of clearing the screen and keeping it clear.
Downside is, as track/race cars get hot inside regardless of the rain, the electric heaters also add to the heat.

There are versions that use engine coolant combined with a fan, but you may as well leave in the standard affair or bastardise it rather than remove it to fit a homebrew version.

whereas a heated screen will clear within minutes and stay clear for as long as its on, the rest of the car will be steamed up to the eyeballs once the fog-x has given up but the heated screen will not.

[talkingcars]

.....whereas a heated screen will clear within minutes and stay clear for as long as its on, the rest of the car will be steamed up to the eyeballs once the fog-x has given up but the heated screen will not.

Keep the side windows open a fraction.

[stamford]

I have in mind the Demon Tweeks version that uses a smaller matrix that plumbs into the OE pipework and this has a 3 speed 5kW fan unit behind it, Windows will have sliders both sides plus the small vent in the top of the rears. The OE set-up takes up half the dash and most of the parts are redundant, may as well start from scratch tbh. Not sure if a previously fitted heated screen can be re-used successfully, T16 has one, could swap them ;)

[Mark S]

you could use a used heated screen if the fitter could remove it without damaging it.

[ZS Phil]

Both screens I've had taken out broke so probably not worth the risk. Heated screen isn't cheap but the best way I think.
The arches look good, going to need some low offset wide wheels to fill them up!

[talkingcars]

One advantage of the heated screen is weight, another is noise.

[Dan1971]

What is it that you are actually trying to achieve with this Mick?

[stamford]

What is it that you are actually trying to achieve with this Mick?

What part? All of it. or the recent posts?

[Dan1971]

What part? All of it. or the recent posts?

The bodywork and I suppose the stripping out. Are you actually looking to make some sort of BTCC replica, track it, show it, look a bit mean popping to Tescos with it being road legal; Just wondering - what's the target with it?

[stamford]

Seeing this is just the track car I may as well do what I can. Plus the pro-race wheels rub on my settings so decided to modify the wheel arches as I did when I raced hotrods on the ovals. BTCC kit will never happen so next best thing. So mainly track orientated with presence when on the road when used. At least it will be different.

[Dan1971]

Just had a look at some of the BTCC images. I see why your are drawn to it especially taking into consideration your willingness and ability to modify the bodywork yourself. Fair play.

[stamford]

The changes being made are not straight forward and need planning and some thinking before cutting metal or plastic. Seeing that I used to build cars and roll cages I guess it is more about being confident and knowing what you are doing and how to get around problems when they arise etc. If I can fit a V8 into a Vauxhall Chevette anything is possible!

Let's be clear here, it'll never be a show car! It is more to do with this is what you can do if you have a crack at it and fits its purpose. Plus if taken to the odd show it'll be a contrast to the really nice zeds we have on here and other forums etc.

[daytona365]

Just as long as you never get rid, we will be happy..Its still a ZS, under all the mods....

[p_b82]

I think there is a certain beauty in functional mods verses form ones anyway!

I had a mini debate on the Mustang forum about a guy who's got a 350R replica wheel - complete with the centre marker, which on a road car to me is utter pointless.

He then got into the needs/wants aspect and I pointed out on my ZS because I've wanted to X change I've needed to do Y change and each and all of them have served a purpose to make it "better" in terms of performance around a track - rather than look pretty....

The fact that it is off the raods because I've made mistakes along the way is neither here nor there :D

I think the car will look epic when done - and be fit for purpose too!

[stamford]

Not much to report, lost interest tbh, got more pressing things on my mind. Even T16 has been untouched since PoL. I guess if and when things may start to settle or make sense I may find tinkering therapeutic. Now I can't be arsed, I have some time but no inclination.

[Dan1971]

Understandable ... :console:

[stamford]

Seeing that my mum has picked up a little (thanks to some drugs) I have decided to do some slow progress on the zed. I have bought a load of bits to progress the mods, aluminium for the floor plates and dash mods, in-line blower, ducting, brake line bits so I can finally fit the bias valve, weld-in seat rails etc.

[peterzs]

Glad your Mums a bit better.

Time to take your mind off it all and start tinkering.


:group::group: :):):)

[Dan1971]

Good news about your mum ...

[stamford]

Off to see her now, too hot to work on the zed, did 2 hours and was a little warm and sweaty! Chequer plate floor looks better already, will take pics when done.

[stamford]

It lives! :trampoline::thumbsup::hooray::clap2::D:mbounce:

Decided to rewire it and see if there was any life. It tried to start 1st time. Quickly killed it and removed fuel relay and fuse then turned it over until the oil light went off. Reconnected and fired up on the button. Not breathed any life since beg April 2016. Well happy and missed that beautiful rumble! Got alot more to do but seeing some light at the end of the tunnel.

[mattie007]

Great news Mick. Hope your mum is doing better.

[Dan1971]

Good news. Well done.

[sneekyparrot]

It lives! :trampoline::thumbsup::hooray::clap2::D:mbounce:

Decided to rewire it and see if there was any life. It tried to start 1st time. Quickly killed it and removed fuel relay and fuse then turned it over until the oil light went off. Reconnected and fired up on the button. Not breathed any life since beg April 2016. Well happy and missed that beautiful rumble! Got alot more to do but seeing some light at the end of the tunnel.

Excelleny news :trampoline::trampoline:

P.

[peterzs]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[p_b82]

Nice to hear that it alive after a long layoff :)

[stamford]

Managed a few jobs over the last couple of weekends. Seat mounts welded in, along with the seatbelt anchor plates on the tunnel side. Bucket seats back in and too the Momo steering wheel, starting to look like a car again! Starting to cut a few corners as such as want to get the car in a state ready for an MOT and not finished so I can do the list of work as and when required. Pretty obvious that this car will never be finished so will be the one to 'fiddle with' when the time allows. Want to start driving it and having some fun! If I keep doing everything it will never be on the road for along time!

[daytona365]

Sounds like it needs some help.................Im sure a fix it day could be arranged..

[stamford]

Sounds like it needs some help.................Im sure a fix it day could be arranged..

No it's not that, just given myself too much to do, more modifications than usual everyday stuff. A case of "whilst that bit is off may as well do that" sort of scenario! The sound deadening tar is the worst part, trying to rid that and clean it up.

[Dan1971]

I'm not sure how easy it is these days to have what will essentially be a track car MOT'd ....?

Arent there issues now where if an airbag was supposed to be there, it has to be, safety things etc ... ?

[stamford]

I'm not sure how easy it is these days to have what will essentially be a track car MOT'd ....?

Arent there issues now where if an airbag was supposed to be there, it has to be, safety things etc ... ?

There is that. If it is MSA compliant then I believe it is immune from SRS equipment being present. Now not saying this is right but some garages would use discretion with regards the test and knowing what the car is used for. If a stripped out track car and done correctly then they may work with you.

I have not had a problem as yet with bucket seats fitted (no thorax airbags), 4 point harnesses fitted (no seatbelt pre-tensioner), Momo steering wheel (no drivers airbag) and no passenger airbag either. I have disabled the SRS light and have removed the SRS system completely. If they get tough I guess I'll have to trailer it! Shame.

[Dan1971]

Sounds like if you go to the same place again you'll be fine.

If you want a fixer upper day though, sure you'd get a few willing sets of hands.

[stamford]

I reckon Sam needs the help more than I do!

[stamford]

Little update. Caravan gone. Jetwashed the hardstand and. ZS now inside with loads of room! Has a home to get started again without worrying.