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petet16
15-07-13, 09:37 AM
A short production.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=478329895590211&l=5470061535923528365

Skillen
15-07-13, 09:51 AM
A short production.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=478329895590211&l=5470061535923528365

I don't have FB and can't see it :(
I'm still on the hunt too!

stamford
15-07-13, 10:05 AM
Nice mod.

Smokey
15-07-13, 10:44 AM
I WANT, I WANT A HOW TO!!!!!

very nice mod btw!

petet16
15-07-13, 11:04 AM
I don't have FB and can't see it :(
I'm still on the hunt too!

You don't need to be on FB to see it:)

petet16
15-07-13, 11:13 AM
I WANT, I WANT A HOW TO!!!!!

very nice mod btw!

I'll get around to a how to

Skillen
15-07-13, 11:14 AM
You don't need to be on FB to see it:)

Says I need to log in on my phone :/
I'll try at home later.

petet16
15-07-13, 11:16 AM
That's odd, I set it so it could be seen by anyone clicking on the link.

petet16
15-07-13, 11:22 AM
Youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4FzTCxvUko&feature=youtu.be

Jay-ZS+
15-07-13, 11:27 AM
Nice another simple touch that helps modernise the zed. I've been eyeing up my neighbours 3 series mirrors that swivel up its a year older than my zs but just feels more modern.

Next you will have to do windows that automatically close when locked ;)

May have to be abit careful in winter when its all frozen up.

Just added you too:group:

Skillen
15-07-13, 11:33 AM
Ahh they look good! Nice work!
Are they wired into a switch as well?

petet16
15-07-13, 11:36 AM
Nice another simple touch that helps modernise the zed. I've been eyeing up my neighbours 3 series mirrors that swivel up its a year older than my zs but just feels more modern.

Next you will have to do windows that automatically close when locked ;)

May have to be abit careful in winter when its all frozen up.

Just added you too:group: Thanks:cool2:

I'm not sure what will be the next upgrade, some of the older Rovers had the auto closing on the windows, I think the 800, and maybe the 600.

petet16
15-07-13, 11:39 AM
Ahh they look good! Nice work!
Are they wired into a switch as well?

No, just the central locking, someone on the forum has a set wired into a Civic mirror switch which allows them to be folded

Jay-ZS+
15-07-13, 11:40 AM
Thanks:cool2:

I'm not sure what will be the next upgrade, some of the older Rovers had the auto closing on the windows, I think the 800, and maybe the 600.

I think they are brilliant especially in this weather, fitting all the controls for them may be pretty tricky though imagine it was all build in to the ECU.

petet16
15-07-13, 11:48 AM
I think it probably was ecu controlled, if they had a separate control unit it would be easier, you'd just need to work out how to connect it into the zs loom.

Jay-ZS+
15-07-13, 11:59 AM
I think it probably was ecu controlled, if they had a separate control unit it would be easier, you'd just need to work out how to connect it into the zs loom.

Guess you could connect it up to the same circuit as the mirrors or maybe get a standalone control module. Something like this but a better quality one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Automatic-Power-Window-Closer-Rollup-2-4-5-WIND-APWC245-/380369596587

Would have to make sure it worked with the remote and not the central locking though on the MK2.

petet16
15-07-13, 12:15 PM
This maybe, plugged into the obd socket http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Automatic-OBD-Car-Window-Closer-Buick-Cruze-Keyless-Emergency-Remote-Controller-/130914540721?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Safety_Security&hash=item1e7b1d5cb1

Jay-ZS+
15-07-13, 12:23 PM
Yer saw them, that would be very simple if it was just plug and play, cant see it working myself. How will it know the position of the windows?

Djules
15-07-13, 12:23 PM
Awesome mod, I love it ! (and want to fit it in mine now...)

:thumbsup:

peterzs
15-07-13, 12:33 PM
great mod, love it.

:yay::yay::yay:

petet16
15-07-13, 01:18 PM
Yer saw them, that would be very simple if it was just plug and play, cant see it working myself. How will it know the position of the windows?

Another problem would be knowing if the auto closing function was active, as not all cars have all the obd functions active, I'd be surprised if the zs is so enabled.

ian zs180
15-07-13, 04:35 PM
Great mod I like it

MG ZS STE
15-07-13, 05:40 PM
Awesome mod, really gonna have to consider doing this to mine.

Is this everything you need?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-75-ZT-Chrome-Power-Folding-Electric-Wing-Mirrors-Switch-Door-Looms-/370791352213?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5654e30795

petet16
15-07-13, 06:21 PM
It's more than you need really, most of the loom isn't needed although if you could adapt the section that goes from the door to the A post that would save having to fit the extra terminals into the zs connector.

I used a Think Tank Electronics module to operate them as it's much easier than using the zt powerfold module http://www.ttelectronic.co.uk/75.html

Supercharged_Z
15-07-13, 06:29 PM
Very nice, My old skoda superb would do this is I held the lock button however the folding action was not that great it would fold but you would only really gain a inch or two.

The shape of the MG mirrors really fit to this.

Drew
15-07-13, 08:04 PM
another great mod, like it a lot.

Drew

Dan1971
15-07-13, 08:10 PM
Great work ... :bow:

Business opportunity ... ;)

petet16
15-07-13, 08:54 PM
Thanks.

Possibly Dan, the only problem being the scarcity of mirrors for sensible money

*lukey*
15-07-13, 09:09 PM
me gusta.......

i like the look of that!

Craig-ZS180
15-07-13, 09:15 PM
That looks awesome.!! Very nice touch Pete :D

talkingcars
15-07-13, 09:43 PM
Well done, been on the look out for bits myself for years now.

That OBD thing appears for some american cars.

The total closure unit works by measuring the power drawn by the winder motor, this increases when the glass reaches the top as the motor tries to work harder.

andys1981
15-07-13, 09:53 PM
that is a nice modification pete,well done mate

red robbo
16-07-13, 04:05 AM
I used a Honda mirror adjustment switch with powerfold button, but i've swapped it since for a Land Rover Disco II version.
The Honda meant I'd need to cut a bit of dash out to get it to fit snug, and I bottled it! So I chose a Landy Disco one, which with a bit of filing, fitted ok.
Can't get the mirror glass to adjust 100% correctly on the drivers side (up seems to get mixed up going to the left as well, and down seems to try to go to the right too! lol), even after using a multimeter, but passenger side works great. I'll not give up though!
Every now and again the mirrors, on unfolding (unlocking the car) have a dicky fit and close again (as if I've locked the car), but the manual toggle (fold) function enables me to unfold them again, without having to go through the process of locking/unlocking the car. Rare this has happened though, since fitting the powerfolds in April.

gibbzy2k1
16-07-13, 10:10 AM
Lovely mod, I want to do that. A how to would be nice too. How does it work through the central locking? Do they not fold back in when the car auto locks about 5mph?

As for the R 800 auto closure, they have a window and sunroof CCU under the passenger seat for it.

red robbo
16-07-13, 03:50 PM
How does it work through the central locking? Do they not fold back in when the car auto locks about 5mph?.
The ecu (powerfold module) takes a feed from the central locking. I joined the module up to the drivers door central locking wires just before they exit the car body and into the rubber door tube (A post to drivers door). Just behind the fuse box. One for unlock pulse and one for lock pulse. The module has a speed activated lock inhibitor. A feed is taken off a source that is ONLY LIVE WITH ENGINE RUNNING, and ZERO volts with ignition in positions 1&2. I found this feed at the alternator, but there may well be others. This live feed with engine running tells the module to ignore the locking pulse when 4/5 mph is reached, so the doors lock, but the mirrors don't fold in.
The powerfold module also has a connection for a manual toggle function, allowing manual fold, even with engine running.
The module ignores the engine running live feed, to allow manual fold.

Drew
17-07-13, 04:49 AM
do all zt's have power fold mirrors?

will I be able to use the mirror covers I have on the zt mirrors (mines XPG)

cheers
Drew

sneekyparrot
17-07-13, 06:21 AM
A short production.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=478329895590211&l=5470061535923528365

Very nice peter, a superb addition :-)

P.

petet16
17-07-13, 07:50 AM
do all zt's have power fold mirrors?

will I be able to use the mirror covers I have on the zt mirrors (mines XPG)

cheers
Drew

It was an option on the zt, so not all of them have them, they need to be post 2003 as well, the pre 2003 mirrors were different.

For the covers, yes, the zs and zt mirror bodies are the same and so are the covers.

petet16
17-07-13, 04:01 PM
Potential donor http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mg-Zt-190-bhp-2003-breaking-all-patts-available-/271237924714?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f270a476a

Smokey
17-07-13, 06:23 PM
How much would be a good price to offer them?

Stephen
17-07-13, 06:32 PM
Gramps has factory fitted powerfolds on his ZT cdti :)

Never uses them..

MG ZS STE
17-07-13, 06:33 PM
Already contacted them as there up the road from me in digbeth and they're not power fold :(

Drew
17-07-13, 06:39 PM
I don't want to pay the ebay prices, I think £20 each is easily enough, will see if I get any!

Drew

petet16
17-07-13, 06:41 PM
I don't want to pay the ebay prices, I think £20 each is easily enough, will see if I get any!

Drew

Best of luck with that Drew

Drew
20-07-13, 11:11 AM
how do I tell if they are powerfold or not? is there an easy way to check?

cheers
Drew

Skillen
20-07-13, 11:39 AM
how do I tell if they are powerfold or not? is there an easy way to check?

cheers
Drew

If the door card is still there in a breaker look for a small button above the window controls and below the mirror adjusters.
If they are off the car then is say more wires than a normal one lol.

MG ZS STE
26-08-13, 09:25 PM
Found a drivers side power fold if anyone is interested? Right colour aswell for me but I'd struggle to justify the cost Vs the benefit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271207430379?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

petet16
26-08-13, 09:47 PM
Expensive or what

Djules
27-08-13, 07:02 AM
What says you this is a powerfold one ?

petet16
27-08-13, 07:18 AM
What says you this is a powerfold one ?

It says so in the item description.

Djules
27-08-13, 12:03 PM
It says so in the item description.

Should had my eyes more open. Sorry.