Whats in the box?

[Skillen]

I know you all secretly love a bit of this!

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo_zpsfdb31fd3.jpg

[petet16]

A wheel nut:laugh:

[Dave]

A dash bulb?

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

several of each lol

[petet16]

Heated windscreen :tease:

[Dave]

New seats?

Cheers
Dave

[Dan1971]

TF Wheel

[Skillen]

Heated windscreen :tease:

Folding windscreen, for those really hot english summers.


New seats?

Cheers
Dave

Blow up ones!

TF Wheel

nope not interior.

[Dave]

Set of 22" chrome spinner alloys?

Cheers
Dave

[petet16]

Headlights

[Dan1971]

Av yu got yuself sum spinners blood ... ?

[Skillen]

Set of 22" chrome spinner alloys?

Cheers
Dave


Av yu got yuself sum spinners blood ... ?
hahaha! yep ;)

Headlights
nope

[talkingcars]

Inlet manifold?

[Skillen]

Inlet manifold?


Nope, both of mine are thankfully working :D

Dave got it over on .org
I'll let him take the glory here!

[Dave]

Nope, both of mine are thankfully working :D

Dave got it over on .org
I'll let him take the glory here!
I'll let people keep guessing!!!

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

I'll let people keep guessing!!!

Cheers
Dave

They'll just look there.

[Dave]

They'll just look there.
Nah, owners of ZS's are too old, our crotchety fingers can't move quick enough to do that!!!! :p

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo2_zps0b7bfdd0.jpg
They'll be getting a full refurb and I think I might give them a candy purple finish.
We'll see!

They are massive.
A lot bigger than I had imagined.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo1_zpsa93fa30a.jpg

[Skillen]

Nah, owners of ZS's are too old, our crotchety fingers can't move quick enough to do that!!!! :p

Cheers
Dave

Speak for yourself! look at my young lithe hands in that there photograph!

[petet16]

Ah yes, I remember you saying on the rt group buy thread that you'd got some calipers.

[petet16]

How do we know that it's not a stunt double hand ?

[Dave]

How do we know that it's not a stunt double hand ?
This is his hand really:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-law1Sy-qzgI/TwiSPcRicFI/AAAAAAAAAtI/sn1ZUHGI9ow/s400/old_hand.jpg

:p

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

How do we know that it's not a stunt double hand ?

That is a good point!
red robbo and pompski can vouch for my youthful appearance! :D

Think they are gonna be a bitch to refurb though.

and i dunno where i can get purple paint from.
Does it neet to be heat resistant paint and lacquer?

[Dave]

That is a good point!
red robbo and pompski can vouch for my youthful appearance! :D

Think they are gonna be a bitch to refurb though.

and i dunno where i can get purple paint from.
Does it neet to be heat resistant paint and lacquer?
Try enamel modeling paint.

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

this is my face
http://www.dylanfox.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/emperor_palpatine.jpg

[Skillen]

Try enamel modeling paint.

Cheers
Dave

Would that be available as a spray?

[petet16]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAKE-CALIPER-DRUM-PAINT-METAL-STEEL-HEAT-RESISTANT-ENGINE-High-Temperature-Temp-/270908604320?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ&var=&hash=item3f13693fa0

[petet16]

this is my face
http://www.dylanfox.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/emperor_palpatine.jpg

You don't look a day over 376 years old

[Skillen]

Traffic purple?

[petet16]

Traffic purple?

Yes

[Dave]

Traffic purple?
Light pink will suit you better tho!!

Cheers
Dave

[Skillen]

Light pink will suit you better tho!!

Cheers
Dave

Yeah but not the car :/


will 400ml be enough with a spray?

also, will I need all of this to refurb them?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321030364506?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

And is it wise to split the caliper body?

[M17TT180]

I was gonna say gwyneth paltrow's severed head.

[Skillen]

I was gonna say gwyneth paltrow's severed head.

No, I chose to keep her whole! haha

[Dave]

I was gonna say gwyneth paltrow's severed head.
Then you'd be wrong :p lol

Cheers
Dave

[M17TT180]

No, I chose to keep her whole! haha

Chris Martin will not be pleased

[Skillen]

Chris Martin will not be pleased

Surprising what a piano will get you :/

[M17TT180]

Surprising what a piano will get you :/

Bloody Coldplay.

[Supercharged_Z]

£50000 cash with my address on it via royal mail? if so, dont worry I will collect

[Supercharged_Z]

hmmm made it to page two... disappointed now. Il go tell the wife and daughter no hols

[Skillen]

haha, where you going to go to spend 50k on a hol?
the moon?
the guys wife said that she would spend the cash for them well, and that it was his own fauilt for going to watch some racing at donnington.

[Skillen]

So I was thinking, instead of the solid traffic purple in the first link to paint there, that I should paint it a metallic "Cadbury's purple"
In this link: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=WATCHING&itemId=270959388629&skus=SIZE:400ML%20SPRAY%20PAINT%20AEROSOL|COLOUR:C ADBURY%20PURPLE%20PEARL%20METALLIC

[petet16]

That would work

[Skillen]

Would one 400ml rattle can do?
Or one each?

Do I need a lacquer layer? And will that need heat treating?
So many things to think about.

Did you refurb yours with a full kit like the one I posted Pete?

[petet16]

One 400ml can should be plenty enough, lacquering them would help to protect the paint finish.

I bought the full kit of seals, but the calipers turned out to be good enough to use, they just needed a bit of a clean up.

[petet16]

Something else worth checking are the stainless shims that the ends of the pads run on, corrosion build up underneath them and pinches the pads, which causes brake judder, and the inner pad can stick, the giveaway is the inner face of the disc being un wiped, it's worth keeping an eye on it when you have them fitted and in use.

[petet16]

Something like this perhaps http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Engine-Caliper-Lacquer-Heat-Resistant-Paint-400-/290584691233?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleani ng&hash=item43a8328221

[Skillen]

Something like this perhaps http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clear-Engine-Caliper-Lacquer-Heat-Resistant-Paint-400-/290584691233?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleani ng&hash=item43a8328221

Looks good that l'll get some ordered along with the paint.

The shims I've heard are a bit dodgy at times.
I'll try and clean it up as best I can.

That pack comes with shims and bleed nipples and the rest and tbh the ones on these look worse for wear so ill order it all I think.

Might be easier with the caliper split :/

Should I be able to push the pistons back into the bodies by hand? They seem really stiff!

Can't wait to get these on!

Gonna take my time and do it as well as I can!

[petet16]

No, you wont be able to push them by hand.

[Skillen]

No, you wont be able to push them by hand.

Ha! Here I was trying to!
That's good to know, I've never done anything brake related before so this may end up being a swift learning curve!

I read the refurb thread and it doesn't seem like I'll need any special equipment so ill be starting these tonight!

[Skillen]

First calliper split :)

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo_zps2fde8580.jpg

The connecting bolts were damn tight!

I managed to push the pistons by hand :/ and got the brake fluid out, now I can't get the pistons out enough to take them out.

I'm in two minds wether to do the full calliper refurb to include the pistons now.
If I can get the piston out I'll do it.

Should the copper pipe be bent specially for a new one? Or just do it by hand?

Thinking of just clear coating the copper too as it will look cool against the purple!

[petet16]

Just bend the Copper pipe by hand, it's only a gentle curve, so will go no problem.

[Skillen]

Just bend the Copper pipe by hand, it's only a gentle curve, so will go no problem.

Ahh ok! Easy enough.

Any words of wisdom on the pistons :/
Haha

[talkingcars]

It is very easy to kink the copper pipe so either spend lots of money on a pipe bender or bend it around a tin of beans or jam jar or drain pipe or something similar.

[Skillen]

It is very easy to kink the copper pipe so either spend lots of money on a pipe bender or bend it around a tin of beans or jam jar or drain pipe or something similar.

We've got a pipe bender for thick plumbing copper pipe!
I'll try the baked bean method instead!
The pipe I took off was kinked a little itself.

[talkingcars]

I did get one for small bore pipe but it's just as easy on a tin.

[petet16]

If you're worried about it kinking you can get pipe bending springs which fit inside the pipe.

Words of wisdom about the pistons, compressed air will get them out, it would have been easier to do them before splitting the caliper.

[Skillen]

If you're worried about it kinking you can get pipe bending springs which fit inside the pipe.

Words of wisdom about the pistons, compressed air will get them out, it would have been easier to do them before splitting the caliper.

Awesome, haha,
Ones not split yet as its proving difficult.
Haven't got compressed air handy.
There's always something with every job!

[talkingcars]

If you're worried about it kinking you can get pipe bending springs which fit inside the pipe.



I didn't know you could get small bore springs but -

Set of 5 spring benders for 1/4", 5/16", 3/8", 1/2" and 5/8" O.D. tubing.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SET-OF-5-TUBE-BENDING-SPRINGS-/310139039962?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4835ba30da

Personally I don't get on with springs, I make the bend to tight and get the spring trapped :blush:

[petet16]

Yep, trapped spring, not annoying in the slightest :wall:

There are a few other methods of stopping the pipe kinking, you can pack it with sand, works well but needs 110% cleaning out afterwards.

[Skillen]

Yep, trapped spring, not annoying in the slightest :wall:

There are a few other methods of stopping the pipe kinking, you can pack it with sand, works well but needs 110% cleaning out afterwards.

I'll just give it a go!
I've managed to get both split now, and one half has no shim and one won't give up its torx bits, so I am now sitting with a hack saw so I can get my bit punch rotaty majig into it so it'll shock it free with a 1/8th turn.
Stupid torx.

[Skillen]

Ugh, that didn't work and now I'm stuck with two halves of a caliper (or one depending on your outlook) with the torx screws stuck in and the metal shims, with dirt and corrosion, stuck.

I'm at a loss as to how to get them out now.

I'm beggining to wish I hadn't bothered now!
But tbh I'd rather have fully refurbished brakes that I can be confident will last than just the cosmetic spruce up with squeeling and seizing.

[talkingcars]

Got a photo?

[Skillen]

Got a photo?

Of which bit?

[talkingcars]

The stuck bit.

[Skillen]

The stuck bit.

Just picking up the old man, I'll take a pic when I'm back.
Just to clarify, the torx BIT isn't stuck, I meant to say bolt, my head wasn't working.

[Skillen]

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo1_zps62399f8d.jpg

Stripped bolt :(

[tcb 180]

Sorry, but for the money they charge new for those, that is one ***** design failure.
Was dreading changing the front disc back plates on the merc the other day. But what a dawdle. Good thick meaty solid little bolts.

You think those calipers are big. Got close up with a new Range Rover Sport the other week. They are massive.

[petet16]

Those bolts always strip or snap, you'll need to drill down the middle and try to extract it, when I did mine I drilled it out, re-tapped the hole and fitted a helicoil, then used a stainless bolt with copper grease.

[Skillen]

Those bolts always strip or snap, you'll need to drill down the middle and try to extract it, when I did mine I drilled it out, re-tapped the hole and fitted a helicoil, then used a stainless bolt with copper grease.

I'm really not that steady with a drill, I tried it on my bonnet and kept going off centre.
Man this is going to pot quickly haha!

The ones that I managed to get out were thread locked, do they not need to be?

[Skillen]

Emailed a local engineering company who specialise in injector extraction but listed bolt extraction on their yell page.
Hopefully it can be done and picked up within a day at work as its about 5mins from my workplace.

Better than me ruining things!

[petet16]

I didn't manage to remove any of mine so don't know if they were thread locked or not, I would use a star washer instead of thread lock to stop them coming loose although mine haven't come loose yet.

[Skillen]

Where did you get you thinner nuts from to stop catching when lowered pete?
Was it the castellated nuts that you got reduced?

I'll try the star washer I think.
Clean the shims up and I'll reuse them as for £10 cheaper I can get the refurb kit without shims!

[petet16]

They were reduced hex Nyloc nuts, I might have some left over, but I'll find a link in case I haven't got any.

[petet16]

None left over, here's a link http://www.stainlessautomotivefastenings.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_22&products_id=1576

You'll need 2 form A washers as well they are 2.5mm thick so spread the load.

[Skillen]

Cheers Pete, so which bit specifically are these to go on?

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh142/cskil/photo_zps866a3ac6.jpg

This is the purple, albeit on a yellow base haha!

[petet16]

Thumbs up for the Purple.

They are for the lower ball joint.

[Skillen]

Thanks again.

I'm really trying hard bit to start painting my spare set of mk2 11 spokes in that purple! Haha!

I imagine some engine parts will end up purple.

[Skillen]

The stuck bolts are going in tomorrow to be professionally removed by this guy.
http://www.extractengineering.co.uk/

So this means that they won't end up butchered by me and ruined!

Hopefully will be fully refurbished in a couple of weeks.

[petet16]

He's got plenty of kit there, should have them out no problem.

[Skillen]

He's got plenty of kit there, should have them out no problem.

Over a grand per box looking up prices on the net!
I know where I'm going if I ever want to rob tools! ;)