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nickc09
28-12-13, 10:51 PM
Does anybody have a wiring diagram or a guide for converting a 120 loom to a vvc loom? Thanks

nickc09
01-01-14, 09:11 PM
Anyone? Please?

BUCKYDEVIL
01-01-14, 10:05 PM
Anyone? Please?

Goldie done mine so, sorry cant tell you how.

seriously though he aint a bad guy or a Spoff
He knows his stuff inside oot & back 2 front
ask him for help at a good price.
You wont find better.

ZS Phil
01-01-14, 11:54 PM
Just a thought but would the loom off a ZR 160 not solve your issues?

nickc09
02-01-14, 12:18 AM
I have the full 160 car there but apparently the loom is not just plug and play,

Apparently its easier to use the 120 loom from the zs with the vvc wire spliced in

nickc09
02-01-14, 12:20 AM
Goldie done mine so, sorry cant tell you how.



seriously though he aint a bad guy or a Spoff

He knows his stuff inside oot & back 2 front

ask him for help at a good price.

You wont find better.


I have spoke to a few people but they dont seem to want to tell you where to splice the vvc wires,

i have always been one for having a go myself

Drew
02-01-14, 07:01 AM
then find yourself a copy of RAVE and look through the wiring schematics?!

Drew

nickc09
02-01-14, 01:08 PM
Got it, will have a look now,

Thanks drew

nickc09
02-01-14, 01:17 PM
Got it ;D

Time to start splitting looms

Thanks

Nick

nickc09
02-01-14, 01:39 PM
Ok so after looking, the cam sensor wires need to be changed, the oil temp switch wires need to be changed, then you need power to the increase and decrease solenoid that then go back to the ecu,

Gettin there

Thanks guys

Nick

petet16
02-01-14, 01:41 PM
Good stuff, glad it's getting there.

nickc09
02-01-14, 02:04 PM
Good stuff, glad it's getting there.

thanks pete,

will definately be doing a guide on the conversion if i get this sorted

although this will probably ruin any chance of help from the people who have already done it and dont want to share their wisdom lol :shutup:

thanks

Nick

ZRed
02-01-14, 02:24 PM
Not that I don't want to share my wisdom, but you are asking me to give you a how to on a service that I make a living from. Surely you can see why I wouldn't give out that information?

1. I don't know you.
2. You've hardly ever post on this site and are not a paid member.
3. You haven't even tried the conversion yourself but want help. Asking for help when stuck is different from being lazy and wanting your handheld.

nickc09
02-01-14, 07:59 PM
Not that I don't want to share my wisdom, but you are asking me to give you a how to on a service that I make a living from. Surely you can see why I wouldn't give out that information?

1. I don't know you.
2. You've hardly ever post on this site and are not a paid member.
3. You haven't even tried the conversion yourself but want help. Asking for help when stuck is different from being lazy and wanting your handheld.

I understand completely buddy, I offered to pay for help as i am currently stuck, I have researched into this and am at the point of having the looms split in front of me,

i also understand i have hardly posted as i have only just bought the ZS, i am an avid poster on mg-rover.org, rovertech, and not as much but also on themgzr.co.uk as i have had zr's for over 5 years

and as for not trying the conversion myself i currently have the zr engine out of the car waiting to go in, i just want to make sure the loom is right before i put it in,

i apologize for any crossed wires... (see what i did there ;) ) but i am currently stuck on the loom and have been for a few days which is why i am asking for help,

i currently have the 3 vvc plugs cut back from near the ecu plug, also the camshaft sensor plug as i know these are different, is there anything else i need from the 160 loom?

Thanks

Nick

nickc09
02-01-14, 08:06 PM
managed to remove the pins for the VVC solenoids from the vvc loom and put them into the 120 loom,

GETTIN THERE!!!

Edit..... Wired it all in now, just got to neaten it up, fit the new belts, side mount and ancillaries and see how we go

Mark S
03-01-14, 12:31 AM
well done, glad you've done it, at least after doing this you are in a position to post up a how to guide for all others in a similar position to yourself who want to do it.
The great thing about forums is the ability to share information and to help each other, when cars become as old and worthless as these, things like this help us all keep an interest in keeping them alive.

nickc09
03-01-14, 12:53 AM
well done, glad you've done it, at least after doing this you are in a position to post up a how to guide for all others in a similar position to yourself who want to do it.
The great thing about forums is the ability to share information and to help each other, when cars become as old and worthless as these, things like this help us all keep an interest in keeping them alive.

If it works thats what i aim to do, if not, ill pay someone to fix my mistake and admit im pants at it lol,

Now for engine transplant, should be fun,

Heres a pic of the zs sat next to the zr, its dark but hey, its better than nothing lol

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/3E45235C-E45A-4E10-AEA5-8C5835EF19E1.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/3E45235C-E45A-4E10-AEA5-8C5835EF19E1.jpg.html)

and the fleet (before i stripped the 160)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/337B2073-D64F-4A6F-9BE9-3BD0FF675B52.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/337B2073-D64F-4A6F-9BE9-3BD0FF675B52.jpg.html)

nickc09
03-01-14, 06:42 PM
PROGRESS!!!

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/895DE832-D773-41AA-A353-25484E2A2157.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/895DE832-D773-41AA-A353-25484E2A2157.jpg.html)

Im not 100% that i have done it right but i had a good go!

I inserted the pins into the ecu plug for the increase and decrease on the vvc unit, i then spliced into the loom for a power source for both (brown pink)

The other vvc plug was spliced onto the wires that came from the same pin on the ecu plug, and the cam sensor i did the same, but it had to be screened so i spliced the screening earth into the crank sensor screening earth,

I did all this from comparing wiring diagrams off RAVE and having the looms sat in front of me, luckily they are very similar apart from a few things

I also noticed the injector and coil plugs were different ao i removed the 120 ones and put the 160 single plug on there to make life easier,

I also managed to whip the centre console out and change the scu for the zr one,

Tomorrow is hopefully fitting the belts and swapping the side mounts and ancillaries over, then see if it runs or if my wiring skills are terrible lol