Mg zs 160 vvc

[nickc09]

I thought its probably best off if i post this in here as its a build project,

I had a 160 zr mk2, and a 120 zs mk2with a knackered engine and decided to transplant the engine,

After a lot of messing about and getting the wiring diagrams off rave, i managed to mate the looms and it works!

Well the engines in and running beautifully, pulls all the way through to just past 7k ( only tested stood still not moving)

It moves, so everything there is fine, just needs exhaust sorting, 160 calipers and drilled/ grooved discs going on along with my addendums, and then making aure the system is all bled up properly and thats it!

Few pics

Engine is in

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/1F6E9E69-C88B-4F9F-8E69-45488623655F.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/1F6E9E69-C88B-4F9F-8E69-45488623655F.jpg.html)

Up on the axle stands
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/FC4E3867-7C80-434C-8A51-754F573C9804.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/FC4E3867-7C80-434C-8A51-754F573C9804.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/236505C0-0A30-408E-A09D-84BC4791B0D0.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/236505C0-0A30-408E-A09D-84BC4791B0D0.jpg.html)

Finally back on all 4 wheels

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/AF7AC411-6522-4A0A-942B-914260D27157.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/AF7AC411-6522-4A0A-942B-914260D27157.jpg.html)

The poor 160 lol
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/410983FC-C32B-452F-9B37-94C2E28C446B.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/410983FC-C32B-452F-9B37-94C2E28C446B.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/655C98E9-F0DD-4D98-B2D2-CB5808AA1959.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/655C98E9-F0DD-4D98-B2D2-CB5808AA1959.jpg.html)

[adam]

Glad you managed to get the wiring sorted in the end!

[nickc09]

Thanks buddy, was a lot easier than i expected tbh,

Engine management light is on atm though, will get the code read later/tomorrow and see what that is, although it was on before i put the engine in because a coil pack died and i never reset it

[adam]

Yeah looks as though it wasn't too difficult in the end reading your thread on it on .org. You'll soon be loving the vvc power on the road!

I know what you mean about EML lights though, mine is on as the previous owner fitted a decat, another thing on the giant list to sort!

[nickc09]

Lol well the 160 was a perfectly working car and i had it for over a year, just prefered the zs and thought this would be a good idea lol

Think one of my mates ia bobbing down with a code reader so i shall report back later ;) lol

[Jason04r]

Neighbors must love you lol

[nickc09]

Neighbors must love you lol


To be honest none of them mind, come out to lend a hand or make brews and food, cant knock it lol

[Dan1971]

ZR looks a bit sorry though ...

Good work...:bow:

[nickc09]

ZR looks a bit sorry though ...



Good work...:bow:


Well theres plenty of them about, sure 1 wont be missed lol,

Thanks buddy ;)

[hansligg]

Glad to see another ZS VVC, was thinking was only mine on the scene, although had some issues with it, its running smoothly and very nippy! best mod you will do!

[stamford]

Good work, there are more about in VVC form.

[nickc09]

Well thats it, done, the engine runs sweet as a nut, pulls all the way through past 7000rpm

i prefer the longer gears from the 120 box for town driving aswell, works perfectly

Next is my 160 calipers all round and then gold addendums on at weekend

[petet16]

Result, well done mate.

[talkingcars]

Hi and welcome to the forum hansligg - get a thread about your car up.

James

[andys1981]

glad to hear you got to the bottom off the wiring issue,at least youve had a go and done it,well done and even better when you do the jobs yourself saves on garage bills etc

[nickc09]

The only wiring issue was me being a ***,

When i removed the launch control from the loom i forgot to cover the bare wire up, so one of the coil negatives was touching metal,

Anyway after a "what a ***" moment i taped it up and it run perfectly lol

Thanks guys ;)

Nick

[adam]

Woohoo, glad it's working mate!

[nickc09]

Woohoo, glad it's working mate!


Not as much as i am, i love the thing, feels much better than the zr,

Not as fast but thats not an issue, thats what the other engine im building is for lol

But yeah, for anyone thinking of doing this conversion, do it!

[Enright]

Well done on getting it going. I saw mention of a thread on .org. Do you have a link to it?

[Mark S]

i prefer the longer gears from the 120 box for town driving aswell, works perfectly



I thought the ratios were all the same with the exception of 5th, which is longer on the 120 and revvy on the 160, both on a 4.2 final, or have I got the wrong info?

[Drew]

zs120 is a C4, zs180 is a C6

Drew

[nickc09]

Ignore this post lol

[nickc09]

I thought the ratios were all the same with the exception of 5th, which is longer on the 120 and revvy on the 160, both on a 4.2 final, or have I got the wrong info?


Ill be honest buddy, im not sure, but it feels like it takes longer to get through the revs than the zr did, probably due to all the extra weight


Well done on getting it going. I saw mention of a thread on .org. Do you have a link to it?


Its pretty much the same thread thays on here buddy, tried to keep them similar

[Mark S]

zs120 is a C4, zs180 is a C6

Drew

120zs vs 160zr, think its c4 vs g4? the g4 has the revvy 5th gear

[Drew]

yeah my bad, ZR160 should have a G4.

G is slightly shorter.

Drew

[nickc09]

Full wiring guide here (http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=27130) for anyone that is interested in how to do the loom

[nickc09]

Managed to get a bit of time the other day

Got some spi vision for the lights and did my rear tints and sunstrip

Lights before

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/A54F0AA5-90DF-437E-9BC4-2C7E21AFC838.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/A54F0AA5-90DF-437E-9BC4-2C7E21AFC838.jpg.html)

Lights after and sunstrip

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/FFF29062-84BF-458E-BC6A-DFC9FA131960.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/FFF29062-84BF-458E-BC6A-DFC9FA131960.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/15503E2F-AC64-471A-9A46-3972231637A8.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/15503E2F-AC64-471A-9A46-3972231637A8.jpg.html)

Rear tints done

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/AFB117E9-44AD-4D1A-AD6F-5C233D25393C.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/AFB117E9-44AD-4D1A-AD6F-5C233D25393C.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/CEC516E8-6ECA-4258-B447-9D4FC297EE50.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/CEC516E8-6ECA-4258-B447-9D4FC297EE50.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/6A68A17F-2626-45E5-8D20-2BB5AD154B44.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/6A68A17F-2626-45E5-8D20-2BB5AD154B44.jpg.html)

Just needs my wheels on, private plate and lowering and we are getting there lol

Thanks

Nick

[Mark S]

did you use the vvc exhaust manifold or the ZS one?
are they both the same or is the ZS one a 4-1 rather than 4-2-1?

[hansligg]

Will get a forum strted about my VVC once on computer. Not sure if old owner was on here, Matt Ward, its his old ZS with a couple of Mods

[nickc09]

Yeah i used the vvc manifold and downpipe, the centre section had to be modified to fit it, but the 120 manifold will fit, just not as free flowing as the 160 one


Will get a forum strted about my VVC once on computer. Not sure if old owner was on here, Matt Ward, its his old ZS with a couple of Mods



Yeah ive seen it before i think, grey mk2 hatch?

[Quadcam24]

headlights and tints spoil it imo.....sorry.

[nickc09]

headlights and tints spoil it imo.....sorry.


Not a problem buddy, the whole point of modifications is personal preference, i dont expect everybody to like it ;)

[adam]

I'd say darker wheels would really suit it now.

[nickc09]

I'd say darker wheels would really suit it now.


Just waiting on my addendums to come back, they are being refurbed

Just hope they look good on the zs lol

[nickc09]

ok so just a quick update of what ive done today,

had a bit of matte black wrap so did the bottom part of the bumper and put 10mm spacers all round to pull the mk1 straights out a bit

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/42DF08F8-1B06-4100-A11F-F12D220D1BBD.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/42DF08F8-1B06-4100-A11F-F12D220D1BBD.jpg.html)


wheels will be done weekend, and hopefully ordering my coilies saturday too

[nickc09]

got my addendums back and coilies are on order, fitted the wheels but am a little unsure on the gold,

had some good feedback off others but the main test will be when the coilies are on, see how it looks then,

heres a pic i took from my window

all comments welcome ;)

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/ABDFA4CA-738D-49EF-8943-D50379A49031.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/ABDFA4CA-738D-49EF-8943-D50379A49031.jpg.html)

[adam]

Doesn't look too bad but a bit random with no other gold bits on the car methinks.

[petet16]

Loose the Gold wheels imo, no offence, just not into Gold wheels.

[Dan1971]

Gold looks pants on there mate .... You've gone black with everything else - black's the way to go with the wheels.

[nickc09]

well these were just going to be my winter wheels anyway,

thanks for the input guys ;)

going to wait til i lower it, see how it goes and take it from there

as for the black what do you think about centre of the spoiler and roof aswell?

thanks

nick

[talkingcars]

I think they look nice but I suspect you'll get lots of abuse as they make the car look like the owner really wants a scubby.

[nickc09]

I think they look nice but I suspect you'll get lots of abuse as they make the car look like the owner really wants a scubby.

lol i had one before i got the silver zr

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/b19f08a7.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/b19f08a7.jpg.html)

mine was the one at the back lol
full carbon bonnet and spoiler, 300bhp, managed to blow it up lol

dont really want to make any decisions yet until its lowered as i think it will make it look different

thanks

nick

[talkingcars]

ZS look nicer ;)

[nickc09]

ZS look nicer ;)

agreed, wont be too long til its done, few more ideas to put to it yet and a bit more cash to throw at it

expect more pics at weekend hopefully

thanks

nick

[p_b82]

Going to buck the trend and say the colours work quite well together....

[nickc09]

Going to buck the trend and say the colours work quite well together....

nice 1 buddy

knew it was gnna be a marmite thing, im still kind of in the middle

[nickc09]

Couple of front pics

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/5F2501EC-DD20-4FC6-B40A-13D967B140E2.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/5F2501EC-DD20-4FC6-B40A-13D967B140E2.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/6D7EDF4E-4330-4F29-8530-12FC49BAAB84.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/6D7EDF4E-4330-4F29-8530-12FC49BAAB84.jpg.html)

[nickc09]

Coilovers have arrived!!

And my mate did a quick shop of it lowered

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/A1067685-E8E0-4750-98F7-3B02B75B35B7.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/A1067685-E8E0-4750-98F7-3B02B75B35B7.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/397926D3-4E19-40D2-AAEC-075E9583CF78.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/397926D3-4E19-40D2-AAEC-075E9583CF78.jpg.html)

Thanks

Nick

[nickc09]

Ok so they came, heres a few pics

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/A1067685-E8E0-4750-98F7-3B02B75B35B7.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/A1067685-E8E0-4750-98F7-3B02B75B35B7.jpg.html)

Rears before

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/93FD602F-CF4C-4004-B292-5E494501A452.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/93FD602F-CF4C-4004-B292-5E494501A452.jpg.html)

Rears after

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/A2A86997-2D4B-4660-B7B5-3EAF44C8AF2B.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/A2A86997-2D4B-4660-B7B5-3EAF44C8AF2B.jpg.html)

Fronts before

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/446C49A8-4E00-4F8A-A32D-8A3103257244.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/446C49A8-4E00-4F8A-A32D-8A3103257244.jpg.html)

Fronts after

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/F7549E14-25A0-4C8D-8759-D2EBAD37E548.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/F7549E14-25A0-4C8D-8759-D2EBAD37E548.jpg.html)


Fronts are too low, going to wind them back up when its light
Thanks

Nick

[nickc09]

Couple of daylight pics,

Front is still way too low after going up 15 threads, will be winding it back up tomorrow

Good thing is i think the wheels really suit it now lol

Comments welcome


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/E0467D95-7C0A-4E90-9122-9926A431C552.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/E0467D95-7C0A-4E90-9122-9926A431C552.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/84134F22-A48A-4EFC-B62A-235E787A3C12.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/84134F22-A48A-4EFC-B62A-235E787A3C12.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/45F0CECA-C972-4CA9-B8F4-2B55A204BD8E.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/45F0CECA-C972-4CA9-B8F4-2B55A204BD8E.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/F1865CB2-B7A7-4503-AA49-21788332E745.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/F1865CB2-B7A7-4503-AA49-21788332E745.jpg.html)

[talkingcars]

That's too low for my liking, does it still go around corners.

[petet16]

Gives it a moody stance, not sure on the ride and handling.

[nickc09]

It does, but it scrapes lol, as i said i wound it up 15 threads but it was nowhere near enough, gnna have a go tomorrow to pull it up more, just thought id throw up some pics as it got lots of attention on splitter scuffers on facebook

[p_b82]

on mine - we have set them to half way - lowered a touch to remove the major gap - but def not slammed by any rate - should get a pic as the sun is out....

mine rub on the lining from time to time as well even with that 'small' amount of lowering.

looks good though once you get it all settled :)

EDIT:

Stuck a few pics in my build thread if you want to see how mine now sits.

[nickc09]

Right, ive raised the front 15 more threads now

Doesnt scrub half as much, only really on full lock,

Heres a few pics, comments always welcome


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/174690CA-685B-49D6-8B49-1A059209EBFB.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/174690CA-685B-49D6-8B49-1A059209EBFB.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/ABB77BB8-C982-4E80-955D-A4577F37D906.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/ABB77BB8-C982-4E80-955D-A4577F37D906.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/3016021E-51D0-4D4C-A6AA-B4913456DD72.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/3016021E-51D0-4D4C-A6AA-B4913456DD72.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/31B52FAB-058D-4FE9-840E-9E78793599DF.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/31B52FAB-058D-4FE9-840E-9E78793599DF.jpg.html)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/nickc07/B5A06D80-4CA8-4DFD-B46F-9E4025533089.jpg (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/nickc07/media/B5A06D80-4CA8-4DFD-B46F-9E4025533089.jpg.html)

Thanks

Nick

[Skillen]

Looks great like that!
What's it like on a bumpy corner though? Looks like it'd push the wheel through the arch!

I was considering lowering mine but it scrubs so so much with the wheels spaces that it'd be an absolute nightmare unless I got the arches cut and reshaped!

[petet16]

It looks very moody, but I think you might need beefier springs on the front.

[nickc09]

Scrubs but not enough to cause damage, and as for the springs they still have loads of thread left to go up, i just love the lows lol