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p_b82

10-07-17, 12:34 PM

Hi Guys,

Rather than bury this in the build/progress thread I figured I'd put it up here and see what my options were....

So here is where I stand - some-one on FB has contacted me and has the keys, if I can prove all bills are paid up (I can) then I'm able to go and collect the car...

however the tyres are cracked, the brakes apparently are seized and the insides might be in a bit of a mess...

so it needs recovery.....

I'd like to get it MOT'd & taxed but that is going to be a bit of an issue without knowing what work it needs to get it ready....

So.....

Is there any-one on here that can help out with recovery and getting it back on the road as the first port of call?

I'm more than happy to pay any & all costs involved - and am willing to put up some money upfront as a sign of goodwill as appropriate.

Once it is roadworthy again, I'll work out what to do with the turbo & manifold fitting at that point... although I'll most likely need help with that, it needs a custom oil feed or drain as it is not completely bolt off bolt on...

Any help will be massively appreciated.......

Thanks,

Pete

Drew

10-07-17, 12:38 PM

I could prolly help get it back on the road. As said I'm not too far from Silverstone. Where are you based?

Drew

p_b82

10-07-17, 12:43 PM

I'm down in Bristol - but more than willing to travel up...

The person who has the keys has said they'll get it ready to be moved...

And thanks Drew....

stamford

10-07-17, 12:56 PM

Sounds like the best offer you'll get. Gets my vote!

10-07-17, 03:42 PM

I have an almost complete (no wheels or exhaust) ZS180 MK2 sitting on my drive ready to go to scrap once I take things off of it, apart from the Rear brakes (Which I think Mick wants) if there are any bits that can be used to help you out please let me know... :)

Also I am heading up bristol way in a few weeks (potentially) to collect some MGF parts and see family... so might be able to arrange delivery of bits if needed also.

p_b82

10-07-17, 03:50 PM

That's also very kind - I guess once we've got the car recovered and looked at we'll know more what it needs....

I'm hoping just free up the brakes, and new set of boots, charge the battery and it'll pass the MOT... but impossible for me to know :(

rover_ed

10-07-17, 04:22 PM

How come when i ask for help i get no offers

peterzs

10-07-17, 05:35 PM

Think this is more of a Rescue of a members car and needs sorting quickly.

Drew

10-07-17, 07:07 PM

I have an almost complete ZS180 MK2 sitting on my drive ready to go to scrap

What colour is that?

Drew

stamford

10-07-17, 07:17 PM

I have not forgotten Sam, just had more pressing things on my mind. Must arrange a day to pop round.

talkingcars

10-07-17, 08:56 PM

How come when i ask for help i get no offers

Pete has had some problems with the person working on the car and seriously been stitched up him up.

11-07-17, 07:22 AM

What colour is that?

Drew
Goodwood green, but every panel needs respraying...

I have not forgotten Sam, just had more pressing things on my mind. Must arrange a day to pop round.
I know, hence not been pushing: ) we've been setting up the new unit and are currently painting a huge classic american truck, otherwise I would have got bits off and scrapped the shell...

p_b82

12-07-17, 08:40 AM

Morning all,

So Drew and I have had a few chats offline, and unfortunately we have a hit a small problem - we need something to recover the car itself, as I cannot legally put the wheel on the road with no tax or MOT.

Does any-one localish to Silverstone have anything to help get it away from the unit?

The good news is that the person who contacted me has the been speaking to the unit owner, there is no immediate rush to get the car moved now, and given it is Silverstone F1, heading there this weekend is a no-no anyway!

He's also seeing if he can source trailer/towcar etc as his car is in bits in the workshop itself so he'll need it later himself...

Ritchy

14-07-17, 06:06 PM

book it into the closest mot station and you can drive it there

p_b82

17-07-17, 09:36 AM

17-07-17, 09:44 AM

the problem is after it has been sat for more than 18months unmoving, I expect there will be things need to be done before it would pass - and if it fails then were doubly not allowed to move it on the road, so we are in the same boat as we were right now...

But it is an option of course!

Are you not allowed to drive home after the MOT as well (might be an issue is 400 miles lol) even if you fail? the "to or from an MOT repair"

Drew

17-07-17, 12:41 PM

Book it in by me. A little far but still possible in my eyes.

Drew

p_b82

18-07-17, 10:09 AM

I had thought they'd changed the rules in result of a failure - because that deems the vehicle not to be roadworthy; but I might have made that up....

Ah right it is a slightly vague wording on the DVLA site - if it fails and is deemed to be un-roadworthy, you are not allowed to take it on the road as it must comply with the various rules.. (vehicle condition rule 89 and a few others)

I guess it depends on whether we can get the car to move as to whether either is actually possible! (I'm not able to head up this weekend either, so it'll have to be next weekend before I can head up to see it, and that's a 300mile round trip for me as well :s)

Any-one used shiply or other transport companies? (might just be simpler if more expensive to do it this way)

It's a pity I can't use my AA cover for a car with no tax/MOT to be recovered as that would be way too easy!

Skillen

18-07-17, 10:18 AM

I've used Shipley before when my car got stuck with no brakes up at my parents and needed to be 150miles away.

Was roughly £120 for it delivered to my door.
I'd use it again tbh

p_b82

28-07-17, 09:03 AM

So I've just been given notice that the car has to be re-located this weekend (farmer is re-renting then workshop as of Tuesday) - given that I've just had some really bad news about my dad's cancer this isn't what I needed.

I've managed to buy myself a week though the guy who has got the keys though for £20. After that hopefully getting the last details sorted to get it moved on the 5th... either to another temp home, or to Drew to try and get an MOT....

As I've taken the day off today I'm going to head up there later today and see what's what with the car, check the bits are there as expected.

peterzs

28-07-17, 09:13 AM

good luck, sorry to hear about your Dad.

talkingcars

28-07-17, 05:19 PM

good luck, sorry to hear about your Dad.

Seconded.

Dan1971

29-07-17, 09:24 AM

Sorry to hear about your dad.

Hope the car is better than you thought.

stamford

29-07-17, 10:40 AM

Sorry hear bad news. Thoughts are with all concerned.

p_b82

29-07-17, 03:09 PM

Thanks guys...

My dad's bad news is that his cancer is back - his stem cell transplant gave him 12 months remission only - with a "good" form of myeloma it should give remission of 3-5 years; needless to say his is not a "good" kind :(

He's been to see his specialist and was told if he doesn't start the new treatment he'll be dead by Christmas... and even with the treatment, they only expect they can delay things for 3 years tops.... given how badly he was affected last time, I don't think 3 years is that likely, but trying not to get to negative about things just yet.

In less crappy news, the ZS is not a complete disaster zone... all the bits are in it, and the manifold was not as bad as I'd been led to believe (which makes me really angry there was a refusal to fit it previously)

The new disks are totally rusted, but I think a skim should be enough to bring them back to life as it looked fairly surface layers only.

With a jump pack we got some power to it and it turned over a few times (but didn't even attempt to catch - only tried it for about 8s total as wanted to see if engine was seized only) so fuel might be bad, or just a huge amount of air in the system that needs to be bled out.

There are a number of scratches to the bumper - something has been driven into it, and the paintwork is as much of a mess as you'd expect for not being washed for 2 years...

But the good news is Toby (the guy that has been helping me out) is moving it round the corner to his folks, so that should free up the brakes at least and get it rolling, then he's going to get it sent down to Drew.... if all goes to plan, next week.....

Then I let some-one who really knows what they are doing look at it and see what is wrong with it lol

Have to say, having sat in the car and seen it again I got the love back for it... felt sorry for it sat there like that all lonely; so this at least has given me the kick to get the rest sorted once the MOT is done.... just need to work out where and when + a little bit of how too!

peterzs

29-07-17, 05:20 PM

Supercharged_Z

29-07-17, 08:59 PM

was this with a rally guy up there?

take it hes gone to the wall

grrr if so.

Incidentally if your 100% stuck i could lift it and stick it at mine for a few weeks.

p_b82

29-07-17, 11:24 PM

was this with a rally guy up there?

take it hes gone to the wall

grrr if so.

Incidentally if your 100% stuck i could lift it and stick it at mine for a few weeks.

Yes it was at rally_matt's workshop where it has been for a while for a number of some-what irritating reasons as it turned out... but the rent hasn't been paid on the unit, so everything is being cleared out so it can be re-rented.

Thanks for the offer, but I think it should be sorted now, it is no longer at the unit - it rolled round the corner to Toby's folks (you can see their house from the unit) and from there it should be making it's way down to Drew hopefully next week.

Turns out I've got family close to Drew, so that aspect of getting it from his is made simpler when the time comes :)

p_b82

29-07-17, 11:28 PM

Cures are being developed weekly or monthly, so I hope that something will come along and help your dad. Keep positive.

Glad the car is not such a disaster area as you feared. Hope the recovery and sorting goes well.

Thanks Peter....

But he is just being put on an experimental drug as it stands - not licensed in the UK, but is in the EU....

There are no other options after this, so we're keeping our fingers crossed it does what they hope it will for as long as possible....

And Re the car - me too! Would love to get behind the wheel again, which is funny as I had totally lost all love for it not having seen it for so long! ( I nearly accepted Toby's non-specific offer to just be rid of it, but glad I haven't now... or maybe I wish I had; time will tell on that one!

peterzs

30-07-17, 11:59 AM

I hope it goes well on all counts.

p_b82

14-08-17, 04:48 PM

Well as the ZS has an MOT I wanted to say a big thank-you to Drew for helping me out with this - potentially a nightmare of amount of work by taking on a car he'd not even seen, with no description of condition available either!

Thankfully for him (and me!) turned out to be less troublesome than feared!

So again Many thanks for the offers of help, and finally getting the car back on the road :)

stamford

14-08-17, 08:50 PM

Good to hear, well done to all.

Drew

14-08-17, 09:50 PM

Yeah was an easy one. And disappointing at the same time. Mine clearly needs more power!

Drew

peterzs

15-08-17, 09:05 AM

:):):):)

15-08-17, 10:55 AM

Glad its been a good outcome :)

What power is it pushing out? or don't we know yet? What is left to do on the car?

p_b82

15-08-17, 12:39 PM

Yeah was an easy one. And disappointing at the same time. Mine clearly needs more power!

Drew

Sorry!

Glad its been a good outcome :)

What power is it pushing out? or don't we know yet? What is left to do on the car?

Last time it was on a dyno it was 170bhp and 270lbs-ft; but I've since had fuel taken out to try and help the HG (it failed to achieve it but it helped a little), need to wind boost down to sub 18PSI, but then it smokes too much for MOT!

Once I get the new turbo on, I can get it mapped to safe limits without the HG going - we know that headlift occurs if we see sustained exhaust manifold pressure over 2bar (I think it was, need to dig into my build thread)... so as long as we keep it below that (or a tiny spike as the turbo vanes adjust), we should be good...

ultimately I'm looking for torque 250-300, but as flat from 1800 rpm to 4200 as we can get for driveability.

should be looking at peak power for around 200-240 sort of mark at that rpm.

Buuuuuut..... I need to use different injectors (had some 6 hole custom built already, with higher break pressures) and then remap accordingly, as the current ones I've got can't do more than 170bhp's worth of fuel up top, even on a bigger turbo.

sneekyparrot

17-08-17, 05:58 AM