Used some clay on the zed today

[martyzs]

Decided as the weather was crap this morning, and we couldn't work outside, to get some clay kits and get into an empty workshop and spent most of the day removing the dirt from our paint, I was shocked at how much we removed and really happy with the results.

There was absolutley no hazing after the final polish and it added a real depth to the paint, if you havent done it already i'd recomend giving it a go, we used meguairs quick clay.

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[markyzs180]

They both look superb mate...adds a real depth to the paint, the second pic of the reflections on the bonnet is brilliant!

[Maxxed_Ross]

stunning! I've got my kit ready for the better weather

[stamford]

Impressive stuff, sounds nasty, using clay!

That backdrop, not Port Solent is it?

[ian zs180]

Looks great i,ve had my megs clay bar since last summer never used it but will do as soon as we get better weather ,and loads of free time as it will take all day with the clay then the polish then the wax .

[shroonie29]

Started to do mine this week,ran out of hours & it has rained ever since :((only got the roof & bonnet done so had to use wet wax to protect for now)
Looks stunning mate :)

Shroon

[martyzs]

Impressive stuff, sounds nasty, using clay!

That backdrop, not Port Solent is it?

It certainly is

On a seperate note, are you going to be at portsdown hill on Sunday? we were gonna pop over.

[stamford]

It certainly is

On a seperate note, are you going to be at portsdown hill on Sunday? we were gonna pop over.


Could do, I'll post back here later when I know what the plans are for the weekend, I would like to for sure.

[jp kelly]

how does this actually work, and how long does it take to do on the full car?

[sarah]

looks stunning mate, especially the reflection :D
nice one.

[martyzs]

It was the first time we used it so we took some advice. The kit contained clay blocks and a spray detailer with microfibre towel and some finshing wax.

First step was to wash the car and remove any polish which was already on the car, we used a regular wash detergent followed by a wash in a chemical which we use in the marine trade, but a wash using hot water should do the same job.

We allowed the car to dry and then set to work on the clay getting it warm and pliable in the hand, sprayed the panel with the supplied detailer which acts as a lubricant and rubbed the clay over the panel, some areas felt really rough and would stall the clay even with plenty of detail spray applied, we knew these areas were dirt in the paint and worked them until smooth.

If the clay got dirty we would knead and reshape it until clean and then continue the process.

Basically after the car was done we allowed all the detailer to dry and applied the finishing wax and buffed off with the microfibre cloth

It took two of us an hour on each car, so double it if your on your own

[Steves Cleenz]

After claying a car it should be polished with a polish with a slight cutting additive in it (something like autogly SRP), this then cuts the paint back up, then after this you wax, if you have just left the detail spray on then i would suggest polishing and then waxing again as the detail spray is just a watered down spray wax




how does this actually work, and how long does it take to do on the full car?

here you go Jp, as for time it depends on how bad the crap is in your paint




What Is Detailing Clay??

While clay is growing in popularity with many detailers now, it has certainly not become a well known "household" car detailing product. Detailing clay is a substance that is designed to remove bonded contaminatns from paint, leaving the paint smooth as glass, allowing easier and more fruitful applications of polihses, glazes, sealents and waxes. Detailing Clay is wiped gently across the paint which needs to be lubricated with a lubricant such as a Quick Detailer spray.



Clay, like polishes, comes in levels of aggressiveness - if you are a beginner with clay, do start with a mild clay such as Meguiars Quik Clay, Meguiars Professional Mirror Glaze Clay (mild, the blue bar) or Sonus Green Clay. These mild clays should be enough to remove bonded contaminants from most cars, only step up to a more aggressive clay if absolutely needed.



Clay can be used on paintwork, glass, and wheels. Always use separate clay on each - ie dont first clay your wheels then use the same clay to clay your paint, as all the brake dust embedded in the clay from the wheels will scratch the paint.





What Are Bonded Contaminants??

When you come to wash your car, the paint will be covered in lots of fresh contiaminats such as dust, mud, possibly bird boms and many others. In addition, the paint will also have a growing amount of bonded contaminants attached to it, which accumulate over time:


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When you wash your car, the fresh contaminants are removed from the paint and the paintwork looks clean. However, washing will leave behine the bonded contaminats which are attached to the paint as if they had been glued on:


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These bonded contaminats are hard to see, so after washing your paintwork looks clean. However, if you gently run your fingers acorss the paintwork you may feel that the paintwork feels rough - a bit like stubble in a way. This roughness, grittiness that you are feeling is the bonded contaminants in the paint.



Examples of bonded contaminants are:



> Brake dust - sharp, so embeds itself in the paint

> Industrial fallout

> Tree sap - very sticky so adheres strongly to the paint



and there are many others as well which you're car is subjected to on a regular basis.





Removing Bonded Contaminants - Clay

In order to remove the bonded contaminats and restore a glassy smooth feel to the paint, detailing clay is used. As well as leaving a pleasingly smooth feel to the paint, when you come to polish, glaze, seal or wax, it means that you are now sealing in remaining bonded contaminants if you have removed them by clay. Simply washing and waxing will not remove bonded contaminants, they will be left behind and then just waxed over.



Clay basically works by grabbing hold of the bonded contaminants and pulling them off of the paint surface:



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The contmainats become stuck in the softer clay where they remain. A safety note when using clay here - these bonded contaminats are stuck into the clay and the clay represents a flat surface. Therefore, surface marring can occur if not enough lubricant is used, or the clay is not kneaded regularly enough to a clean side - please see also the section on using clay...



This leaves the paint finish glassy smooth. Clay can remove the bonded contaminants listed above, however some adhesive contaminants such as tar may need a dedicated tar remover as they are very highly adhesive.





Using Clay

Before claying, always wash fresh contaminants off of the car. First and foremost, always follow the manufacturers instruction for the correct use of their detailing clay. What follows here is a generic guide of tips for the safe use of clay which I use from experience of using clay.



To clay your car, you will need a clay bar and an associated lubricant to lubricate the surface and the clay bar - examples of such lubricants are:



> Meguiars Quick Detailer Spray

> Meguiars Last Touch Detailing Spray

> Meguiars #34 Final Inspection

> Clearkote Clay Lubricant

> Pinnacle Poly Clay Lubricant



and there are others that can be used too.



About 40 - 50g of clay is sufficient to clay a moderately sized car. If using Meguiars Quick clay, for example, break off one third to one half of the clay bar (the bigger the car, the more clay you may need).



Roll the clay up into a ball, then out into a sausage shape and finally flatten it out into the palm of your hand. When doing this ensure that the clay is warm and quite soft. It clay gets cold, it can be hard or brittle and this can risk inducing surface marring on the paint. Throughout the claying process, always ensure that the clay remains nice and warm and doesn't go brittle or hard.



Work on small areas at a time, I start with the roof, and then the bonnet, then the top half of the sides, then the boot, then the bottom half of the sides (like washing, do the cleaner areas first). I always spray a panel with quick detailer and wipe off before claying it to remove and rogue dust particles that may have blown onto the paint that may induce marring.



Work on small areas of paintwork at a time - about 2' by 2'. Spray the area with the clay lubricant, enough to wet the surface quite thoroughly. Also spray the clay with lubricant as well. Gently wipe the clay in a fore and aft motion over the lubricated area using only finger light pressure:



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Never clay over a dry area of paint, and if the paint begins to dry out before you are happy that the surface contaminants have been removed (paint will feel smooth), spray on more lubricant. Keep the clay lubricated as well. Once the paintwork feels smooth, gently wipe the remaining clay lubricant away using a soft microfibre towel.



Knead the clay very regularly - this not only keeps the clay warm, but when kneading expose a clean side of the clay. Remember that clay is picking up sharp particles, if you do the whole car with one side of clay you will induce surface marring as all the sharp particles stuck in the clay will ineveitably come into contact with the paint. For this reason, knead the clay regularly and only ever use finger light pressure. When a clean side of clay can no longer be revealed, discard the clay.



Continue until the car is completed. Note that many clays will remove some or all (depending on aggressiveness) of the wax/sealent protection, so always follow up claying with polishing and glazing if required, followed by sealing and/or waxing.





Some Notes on Safe Clay Use

Clay is safe to use if used with care. However, if not used with care it can induce surface marring.



Always regularly knead the clay to a clean side.



Always keep both the clay and the paint surface well lubricated.



Use only finger light pressure



If you drop the clay on the ground, discard it as it will pick up tons of dust and grit and dirt from the ground that will inflict damage to paint.



Keep clay warm, and supple - if it gets cold, hard and brittle it will induce marring, so another reason to keep kneading regularly, especially in winter.





And there we have it, a quick generic starters' guide to clay.

[martyzs]

We used Megiuars polish with the kit which has the cut to it, when we do it next we may try autoglym (yellow) for the cut and finish with the autoglym super resin polish (red) as weve had good results after cutting back painted boats and using that combination, especially on recently painted surfaces.

[markyzs180]

nice one steve, thanks for the advice...:bow:

[sduk]

great results, might need to get me some of that :D although maybe i should just wash my Zed in the first place lol :D

[ian zs180]

Is it ok to use the clay on the plastics ie the body kit etc

[Steves Cleenz]

clay can be used on any painted surface, you can even use it on your windows

[ian zs180]

Cheers for that advice will be doing mine as soon as the weather gets better

[dave87]

might be an idea to put that really detailed advise in the HOW-To section?

[KevG]

Sod using clay, I'll get my mate (Who's a spray painter) to buff he car with his Machine polisher with G3, then hand apply Meguiars Tech Wax, then Machine Polish this off, and then finally use some quick glaze.

[Ravinder_Tomcat220T]

Claying makes a massive difference. I did the vvc back in oct last year and wow! Took me 4 hrs just to clay the whole car and then applied polish and wax on top of it and it worked a treat. The paintwork is so smooth. Defo worth doing maybe 3-4 times a year to maintain the paintwork to a high standard.

[Steves Cleenz]

Sod using clay, I'll get my mate (Who's a spray painter) to buff he car with his Machine polisher with G3, then hand apply Meguiars Tech Wax, then Machine Polish this off, and then finally use some quick glaze.
Kev Its easier to to clay a car than to machine polish believe me !, and having it machine polished wont pull all the crap out of the paint, and plus G3 is a very coarse cutting compound which will cut back a lot of clear coat, do this too many times and you risk cutting through to the base coat, where as a clay bar does no damage what so ever to the paint

[dj_russell]

looks sweet mate i looked for a black mg zs180 saloon exactly like yours but it was like looking for a needle in a haystack. nice to see somone else who takes an interest in boats aswell my dad owned a formula, and his mates scarabs and weve got jet skis and a smaller boat now due to the formula costing more than £100 a day in petrol lol.

[Craig]

I got some quick clay, just waiting for a decent day to do it now

[arwilson80]

Those reflections are absolutely stunning....!

[Maxfly]

i quickly did mine the other day, then polished and waxed. looked great for all of 24 hours before i headed back down the road after work, sodding salt on the roads.