Im Homeless

[Bobdope2002]

Im a reject from .org i got banned for saying some home truths that thye didnt like

can you please be my friend and take me in

[Craig]

I'll be your friend :D You are more than welcome here mate

[Shafz]

Hi welcome along :)

[SharronB]

:hi: to the forum Bob :D

[rbull51]

Im a reject from .org i got banned for saying some home truths that thye didnt like

can you please be my friend and take me in
what sort of 'home truths' are you talking of here????

[Bobdope2002]

wellll if this site has nothing to do with Fatty Steve Childs and .org ill say

[Bobdope2002]

:hi: to the forum Bob :D


hello again ive seen you on XPF Oh wait i got banned theyre tooo :(

[SharronB]

Not doing very well on forums are you? lol

[Bobdope2002]

Not doing very well on forums are you? lol

well i was until the mod team decided that my oppinion wasnt allowed on the Cult that is .org (going a bit quick and that the mod team were like Hitler)

And then decided just to **** me off theyd ban my XPF account too *******

[SharronB]

Tbh i didnt see you do anything wrong on xpf, so i think that was a bit out of order. Is it a permanent ban?

[Bobdope2002]

Tbh i didnt see you do anything wrong on xpf, so i think that was a bit out of order. Is it a permanent ban?

Yep Permanent :(

Dr Dave (Gasaxe) Flexing his Power i believe

[Maxxed_Ross]

That lot can be a bit funny, hence why I spat the dunny out at Steve about the subscription for .Org years ago (it's all for the benefit of folk down south, nothing at all for us Scots) and I'm hardly on XPF these days. If you're not in the clan you get flamed for nothing.

IMO you're better off banned matey, here is much better

And to answer the earlier question we have nothing to do with Hitler or his sites, so what did you say? Must have hit a nerve lol

[mrt_04]

Well whatever happened Bob, you are welcome here :hi:

[Bobdope2002]

That lot can be a bit funny, hence why I spat the dunny out at Steve about the subscription for .Org years ago (it's all for the benefit of folk down south, nothing at all for us Scots) and I'm hardly on XPF these days. If you're not in the clan you get flamed for nothing.

IMO you're better off banned matey, here is much better

And to answer the earlier question we have nothing to do with Hitler or his sites, so what did you say? Must have hit a nerve lol


Well i started off as someone saying he had blown his car up because he had changed to 2nd at 100mph :stupid:

then i changed the subject and said 35 in 30mph zone where its safe to do so is ok maybe not legal but the police wouldnt pull you over for it, And you know what thyere like on .org about speed i got pounced on by about 30 people saying i was wrong and my attitude to driving stank E.T.C.

Then one pesky little 19 year old tosser sends me a pm saying i was an idiot E.T.C. so i sent him a polite (not Pm back ((it had about 10 Swear words in BTW)) pm back which he didnt like, So he could dish it out but not take it, he then ran to the mods crying about it.

Next thing i kno i have a pm from a mod saying i was in trouble blah blah i basically told him in so many words to f-Off and cancel the damn account

Next thing i know im banned from .org and 5 mins later XPF too for no reason other than a small argument about something silly,that was it about working on a saturday, So the Daft mod team which is .org again banned me from theyre with the excuse "he caused trouble over on .org he will on XPF" and as Mrslozzmachine has said i did nothing really that wrong on theyre

what the mod team dont know is i signed back in again with an old account i set up ages ago and began to post again Stick that up ya ass moderation team haha Which as people clicked it was me started to fill up with emails saying it was wrong how they banned you for no reason E.T.C in the space of 1 day ive had 10 separate people go that was wrong

I knew i had this account here so i thought id sign on and use this as my my base forum and XPF as the second forum.


jeez thats the longest post ive ever ever made and it all makes sense tooo :lol:

[Phate]

hehe, sounds like fun! :D

Ah well mate, it's a very friendly forum here, I'm sure you'll settle in fine :)

[sarah]

firstly welcome over here Bob :)
secondly ignore those bunch of dim wits on the forums, they are quick enough to do dish it out but once they get it back they dont like it, i know i dont have a car YET and ive joined few forums but thats purely for the fact that i am interested in cars, shows, and gaining my knowledge for when i do drive, myself have had a words with a few people but you know what? i left school years ago, if i wanted to continue being childish id go find a nursery or something, most the people on forums (not this one) are very defensive, and just lately theres loads of cocky chav sh!ts who are joining up and taking over.

i know you must be annoyed/angry right now but dont let it get to you, this site is whole damn better than those 2 you are banned from :)

[carmadbaker]

yer we are much cooler and down to earth than the other forums dude so welcome aboard :) obv that 19yo was a complete penis, obv not a clue! its not speed that kills....its using it in the wrong places :) i live by that and it works for me! lol

[sarah]

talk about giving an opinion and stating the truth? if you cant handle the truth then f' off and go play or the motorway on something, have no time for people who bash away at genuine peeps!

[Bobdope2002]

firstly welcome over here Bob :)
secondly ignore those bunch of dim wits on the forums, they are quick enough to do dish it out but once they get it back they dont like it, i know i dont have a car YET and ive joined few forums but thats purely for the fact that i am interested in cars, shows, and gaining my knowledge for when i do drive, myself have had a words with a few people but you know what? i left school years ago, if i wanted to continue being childish id go find a nursery or something, most the people on forums (not this one) are very defensive, and just lately theres loads of cocky chav sh!ts who are joining up and taking over.

i know you must be annoyed/angry right now but dont let it get to you, this site is whole damn better than those 2 you are banned from :)

I do like XPF although i hated Mg-rover.org had been trying for ages to have the accont closed on theyre bunch of mini hitlers the mod teams are

yer we are much cooler and down to earth than the other forums dude so welcome aboard :) obv that 19yo was a complete penis, obv not a clue! its not speed that kills....its using it in the wrong places :) i live by that and it works for me! lol


Well my rule is drive to my limits of the road if i go over those set limits im gonna crash and die

Like i said in the piccies thread ill be trying my hardest to get my account reinstated on XPF and the Mod shafted

This is my new base forum and XPF will be the second one

[sarah]

and you know what? they never say it to you're face either, if they had the opportunity to they still wouldnt.

[Bobdope2002]

and you know what? they never say it to you're face either, if they had the opportunity to they still wouldnt.

I wouldnt like to see them try sarah. All 6 ft 5 of me wouldnt be best pleased if one of them came over to me saying you cant speed its illegal

Edit: Do i have to subscribe to have a signature???

[stamford]

Subscribe.....................you know it makes sense ;)

I know what you mean about .org, my account is still active but post very little these days. The mods are an anal bunch, but not all of them, however it only takes one eh!

Welcome back and hope you like what we've done to the place :D

[Bobdope2002]

Subscribe.....................you know it makes sense ;)

I know what you mean about .org, my account is still active but post very little these days. The mods are an anal bunch, but not all of them, however it only takes one eh!

Welcome back and hope you like what we've done to the place :D


Yeh it looks much better than when i first signed up all those moons ago

theyre all anal mate evryone of them been doing my head in over theyre for a few weeks now

[talkingcars]

Ah, .org, they let someone slag me off with lies in open forum, locked the thread (like that has never happened to one of his threads) and wouldn't let me reply! I don't visit .ORG now.

and not wanting to drop myself in it with XPF but I've had messeges deleted there because the thread starter has a chip on his shoulder and though my messege saying "good luck" was taking the st mick! I still post there sometimes because they can often throw a diffrent veiw on a technical problem.

I do most prefer here for my ZS fix though so I wont go
"mmmm 35 in a 30, we had an agency driver in our little van a few weeks ago who was really slow but then got a speed camera fine for 36 in a 30!" will I. :happy:

[talkingcars]

P.S. hello (who says I post whoring?)

[Z Scotland]

Welcome Bob hope you enjoy your stay:yes:

[ThumpJunkie]

Jeez, he gets everywhere...

[DeMoNPauL]

I'm hardly on XPF these days. If you're not in the clan you get flamed for nothing.

Ross that aint true

I myself try to make everyone welcome.

And to answer the earlier question we have nothing to do with Hitler or his sites, so what did you say? Must have hit a nerve lol

I may be wrong but does the person concerned not host this forum??

hehe, sounds like fun! :D
Ah well mate, it's a very friendly forum here, I'm sure you'll settle in fine :)

Theres nothing fun about it Bob was a well respected member on XPF and he knows i did everything i could to keep him on XPF.


secondly ignore those bunch of dim wits on the forums,
i know you must be annoyed/angry right now but dont let it get to you, this site is whole damn better than those 2 you are banned from :)

Sarah chill out

I am not a Dim Wit and what do you know about XPF? you have only been on it for a very short period.

If you took the time like i did you would find that XPF is the most Knowledgeable place for the modern MG.

we are much cooler and down to earth than the other forums dude

How is that?

What do you know about XPF??

Before you sprout off i suggest you look into the history and what people in the past put into it etc.

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

Ok XPF is not everyones cup of tea but there is some of us who try to keep it inline with what it was in its heydey.

This is my new base forum and XPF will be the second one

Thats your choice Bob.

and not wanting to drop myself in it with XPF but I've had messeges deleted there because the thread starter has a chip on his shoulder and though my messege saying "good luck" was taking the st mick! I still post there sometimes because they can often throw a diffrent veiw on a technical problem.

I do most prefer here for my ZS fix though so I wont go

Let me address this.

The original poster of the thread requested that the said posts be removed so as not to cause any controversy.

Saying that i can see where you were coming from but the thread was obvioulsly starting to errupt.

Hence the original poster asked for it to be modded.

You all know what i am talking about because a similar thing happened on here and the thread was deleted and the guy was banned.

I do know this guy takes alot of negative publicity on many forums but if he is that bad "Why hasnt there been any prosecutions of him etc etc"

If i believed some of the stories i have read i would surely be on to my solicitors to sue the arse of the guy.

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one apart from myself and what i do on XPF.

[Bobdope2002]

hey paul i never said you didnt try and not help me i dint realise you were a mwmber over here as i would have said you were the only one on my side

which was the truth

TBH aswell paul theyre is not much point me basing myself on XPF for me to get fount out an banned AGAIN

like ive said i enjoyed XPF a great load of people but this is home for the time being bud

[talkingcars]

I do know this guy takes alot of negative publicity on many forums but if he is that bad "Why hasnt there been any prosecutions of him etc etc"

If i believed some of the stories i have read i would surely be on to my solicitors to sue the arse of the guy.

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one apart from myself and what i do on XPF.

He has been succsessfully sued by someone I know for £11,000! This was mostly for parts removed and "lost" from a car he was supposdily installing a new engine. He disappeared for quite sometime after this and I'm not sure if he paid up in the end.

He has various technics from staging robberies when customers are around to declaring himself bancrupt to moving.

The biggest problem I'm having is getting people to tell me about their own personal experience as they are either scared of him, he has since done them a little favour, or for some reason are unwilling to tell me the good stories!

I could go on but I'm saving it!

[talkingcars]

and http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/T16con.htm is my statment on my own personal experience, I would stand up in a court of law on it!

[Maxxed_Ross]

Ross that aint true

I myself try to make everyone welcome.


I know that Paul, but like has been said before it only taks a few people being silly to ruin it totally. I never had a problem with the site for a long time but as soon as the site changed owners all those years ago, I think the general feeling on the site changed for the worse.

I don't like the way the place is going personally, and I enjoy the laid back feeling here. I don't know if it is suffering in the same way as theMGZR.co.uk is with the influx of new young drivers due to the lower 2nd hand values these days... but there is a deffinate change in the air

[Stevedx]

Welcome along Bob

[Mat C]

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

There seems to be a lot of negativity towards XPF at the moment and in many respects i can understand why - Ross picks up on my major reason and that is there's too many young kids thinking they know it all and bringing their limited knowledge and inflated attitudes along. All that does is wind-up the older guard who helped make it the giant it is now.

Some background info on XPF. In late 2001 a gentleman i am proud to call a friend called Jerry Flint went to a BTCC race and met up with another gent callen Kev Neal (cousin of Matt Neal) and along with a few others decided to turn what was Jerrys basic blog about running his Rover 75 into a website dedicated to the new breed of MG's : The Zed range. Regional meets were organised and soon the members came flooding in. An online gallery was created which to this day is one of the nets largest car-based gallerys - an achievement in itself. I was one of the very early members and helped with regional meets and BTCC events, often getting convoys of 75+ cars.

I then started working for MG's works BTCC team on the merchandise/display stand. This gave further relationships between MG and XPF with Jerry and me often visiting the factory. In 2004 we sponsored not only Jason Hughes maiden season in a ZS but also WSR who were now running 2 ZS's independantly with no MG backing. We then ran a raffle to help WSR's race programme even further. Jerry personaly went out and bought a brand new MG TF for the raffle prize - sheer dedication to the marque. The raffle was a huge success and we gave WSR thousands. (this is why you will find a lot of BTCC supporters who used to support the MG's now support WSR's 2 orange BMW's !)

Then in 2005 when the sad news of Longbridge closing it's doors reached us we immediatly reacted. The owners of Leda suspension, Beverley and Andy Miles made it their mission to show and give support to MGR's hard and loyal workers by organising a convoy to Longbridge. A few of us negotiated with the local authorities for Police assistatance (which we got - including a junction of the M42 being shut to allow us through !) and we even had BBC, ITV and Sky news involved. The rally was a huge success, we had hundreds of cars in convoy and raised thousands once again.

Following this, feeling and morale was low on XPF and Jerry decided he wanted to step down. By this time XPF was a business in it's own right and needed someone to step in, not only with money but with a hosting package and knowledge of running a site. A few of us tried to get a rescue package together but it failed and eventualy it was Steve Childs who stepped in.

It was here that many of us felt let down as we felt that he bought his own army of moderators in, wiping us out with complete disregard for the years of hard work we had put in.
In the meantime Beverley and Andy Miles formed a new website, Brit-cars.com and Jerry formed his own going back to his motorsport routes, Sportscar-racing.com. All the old guard from XPF ended up as members of either one or both - i'm on both, admin on Sports-car as well as a moderator on Jerrys other MG website.

Some of us still frequent XPF but it doesn't seem the same. We try to add our knowledge and input but it's rarely appreciated and then the fact that RSM is allowed to roam free is an insult to us who did our best to make sure he would never scam another MGR owner again. I'm glad there are still big supporters of XPF and i still have respect for it and great memories of what we achieved. I spend most of my time here and on Sportscar-racing.com but i would like to add that i think it's wrong for those who don't know about XPF, it's background and what was achieved to go knocking it and slagging it off. It may be run in a vastly different way to how we used to know it but it's still the largest independantly run MG website in the world and the wealth of collective knowledge there is unrivalled and unchallenged by any other MGR website.

Sorry for the length of this post and for hijacking Bobs thread ! :)

[carmadbaker]

How is that?

What do you know about XPF??

Before you sprout off i suggest you look into the history and what people in the past put into it etc.

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

Ok XPF is not everyones cup of tea but there is some of us who try to keep it inline with what it was in its heydey.


Jesus christ dude calm down, practice what you preach!
its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts :)
so chill out dude, no-ones really laying into the XPF too harsh, its not a bad website, im a member so i do know :) i was commenting that the atmosphere on here is alot more laid back and not so serious all the time...people on here seem alot more personal and more my cup of tea....so chill out bud, have a beer:beer2:

[Witnes$]

R 8 Bob what you been up to now? lol. .Org is ***** and completley over moderated, one words slightly non PC and you get a nasty PM so nowt to worry about there, I would be slightly pissed about XPF tho. By all accounts this Steve Childs is a ****!

Rob

[stamford]

I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

What I do not want to see is a divide between the MG community, we are all here for one simple purpose, so why the hostilities?

I would rather things be channeled in the right direction via the site team in question before airing it on another forum. It only creates bad blood and sucks more people in.

Paul has every right to be asking questions as he cares for XPF as we do for theMGZS, I would be no different if the roles were reversed.

Let's hope any differences can be resolved and let's make the MG community a happy one.

[arwilson80]

I'll echo what Stamford has said... I would make just 1 edit:


I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums / people. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

I am in 2 minds as to whether or not this thread should be 'locked' before it gets out of hand. I will let it run for another while and reconsider.

[ZS]

Stamford, There allways will be a Divide in the community, there allways has been :) Back in the Day's when I was a Mod on XPF the devide was between XPF and .Org, I went through all the politics when steve took over and my experience on how steve treated me (I was one of his super mods after he took over) made me leave, now I go back very rarely. I don't hold grudges I just havn't really had a reason to go back...

Talkingcars
If your talking about who I think you are then Ignore him, if you talk about it on forums your thread gets deleted, I can understand why, but I can also see the other side of the coin. I know a bit about his history and also a bit about him and the way he treats people. TBH he has never treated me bad, but on the other hand I've seen how he treated a good friend of mine... Anything further should be confined to PM's or emails so as to take the negative posting away from the forum.

[Witnes$]

atmosphere as witnessed here Me?? Joking.

On a serious note. Sometimes its good to voice negative opinions aslong as they are constructive and if people listen to them improvements can be made.:yes:

Rob

[peterzs]

Welcome Bob, you've certainly made an entrance, all goes over my head, but some good news, my diesel is back from the dead and goes almost like a 180 again (boost pipe fell off):hi:

[SharronB]

but some good news, my diesel is back from the dead and goes almost like a 180 again (boost pipe fell off):hi:

Great news! I bet your pleased thats all it was! :D :thumbsup:

[Mat C]

Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

[Craig]

Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

I agree lol :mml:

[Mat C]

Bl00dy comedian ! :beer2:

[peterzs]

Great news! I bet your pleased thats all it was! :D :thumbsup:

Most likely doing a wave by at Horam Inn trying to sound like your one didn't help, did you get to Duxford?:super::super:

[Craig]

I do agree with your point tho. Yes xpf has a greater wealth of info. If I cant find an answer to a problem I will search on xpf. We do see ourselves as a friendly community, with a laid back attitude to posts, but we are willing to disagree if we think something isnt right (as we proved recently :)) We also have Kevg (aka the bulldog) who doesnt exactly hold back :D

I am a member of XPF ZSC .org themgzr and rovertech. My time is primarily spent on here obv and to some extent on thezr site as I have been a member there for years. Personally, I dont feel the same spirit on .org or XPF probs as I have never been a very active poster on those sites. I visit ZScentral almost daily also, but its not the busiest place.

I suppose I prefer the atmosphere here as its a closer knit community as we are newer and Its easy to keep track of the members and relate to them. We have a very high proportion of members who visit the site daily.

Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in. I believe that we satisfy a need in the MGR community, if we didnt, we wouldnt be doing so well

[Mat C]

We also have Kevg (aka the bulldog) who doesnt exactly hold back :D

I suppose I prefer the atmosphere here as its a closer knit community. We have a very high proportion of members who visit the site daily.

Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in. I believe that we satisfy a need in the MGR community, if we didnt, we wouldnt be doing so well

No one can accuse Kev of backing down - last weeks drama was better than settling down to watch a good film !

And yes, this site does have a strong core group with some excellent contributors - my car wouldn't be how it is today (brilliant in my opinion !) if it wasn't for the advice and tips from various members here !

And this site has become a force in it's own right. I'm a member of ZScentral but i can't stand it's layout - very messy - so i rarely ever use it. Luckily this site is 99% idiot free. Now and again one creeps through but as i've always said - if the world didn't have nutters it would be a very dull place ! :D

[Bobdope2002]

why do all my threads end up like this :laugh:

Id like to emphasis (sp?) i think XPF is a great site Has very good information about the ZS180

I fount the XPF site just as friendly as this one shame the mod team Minus Paul are twats

But i have nothing but bad things to say about .org £12 for a subscriptin when the site is constantly lagging and locking up

You tell Steve childs and he doesnt want to know

[Mat C]

shame the mod team Minus Paul are twats


I can't comment on that (appart from Paul is sound) as i don't personaly know them or have had any disputes with them. However, i do find it odd that one of their moderators has only 420 posts. How does this qualify him to be a moderator, understanding the users and how the site works ? A moderator should be someone who has made a big and regular contribution to the site, not just one of your mates ! That's how it used to be on XPF - if you was a big contributor to the site and went out of your way to assist with the running of things or organising events then you would be asked to represent the site - a moderator. That's the way, i'm glad to see, it works here :)

[Bobdope2002]

I can't comment on that (appart from Paul is sound) as i don't personaly know them or have had any disputes with them. However, i do find it odd that one of their moderators has only 420 posts. How does this qualify him to be a moderator, understanding the users and how the site works ? A moderator should be someone who has made a big and regular contribution to the site, not just one of your mates ! That's how it used to be on XPF - if you was a big contributor to the site and went out of your way to assist with the running of things or organising events then you would be asked to represent the site - a moderator. That's the way, i'm glad to see, it works here :)

Yeah Paul is sound

Ive had a few run ins with them over on .org and two of the mods from .org run Xpf Too

I just didint agree with how they'd give no lenience on the matter theyd just infract you over on .org where as XPF there was a lenience youd get a pm saying can you remove or not do it again

I wouldnt be surprised if someone from .org hasnt picked up on this and is over theyre slating me

AM I BOVVVVEREDDDDDD :laugh:

[Mat C]

Best bet is then Bob, just to stay here, keep a cool head and enjoy the advice and banter on offer here ! :)

[sarah]

everyone is welcome here, :)

[mattie007]

Thanks for the post about XPF's history Mat C. Good to know how it all started and how its panned out now. Its my main MG forum but I use this one just as much now.

Can I just ask, what was all the drama about this forum last week and why KevG has gone?!

[Mat C]

I wasn't aware Kev G had gone - after all, he is one of the site owners !

[Maxxed_Ross]

I managed to miss the drama too, was that when Jim (boothill bandit) left?

Kev has indeed left us










because he is away on holday!

[Bobdope2002]

i heard a rumour he had an argument With RSM????

[Maxxed_Ross]

that sounds very possible

[Craig]

i heard a rumour he had an argument With RSM????

Kev or Jim lol?

[Bobdope2002]

Kev or Jim lol?

KevG i believe i may be completley wrong

[mattie007]

Clears things up a bit then!

[Craig]

KevG i believe i may be completley wrong

You are completely right mate :D

[Bobdope2002]

You are completely right mate :D

Guess how i fount that out ive only been here two days

[talkingcars]

Talkingcars
If your talking about who I think you are then Ignore him....snip.....Anything further should be confined to PM's or emails so as to take the negative posting away from the forum.

If anyone has first hand experience of, good or bad, please email me.

[stamford]

Some very good debate going on in here, some valid and wise words from Mat too, nice to see.

As for who started what, I think there are a few who can lay claim to that ;)

[DeMoNPauL]

He has been succsessfully sued by someone I know for £11,000! This was mostly for parts removed and "lost" from a car he was supposdily installing a new engine. He disappeared for quite sometime after this and I'm not sure if he paid up in the end.

He has various technics from staging robberies when customers are around to declaring himself bancrupt to moving.

The biggest problem I'm having is getting people to tell me about their own personal experience as they are either scared of him, he has since done them a little favour, or for some reason are unwilling to tell me the good stories!I could go on but I'm saving it!

I cant profess to know of any of this but surely someone of the many people he has and i quote for legal reasons "Ripped off"

and http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/T16con.htm is my statment on my own personal experience, I would stand up in a court of law on it!

If you are correct why the hell have you not done it??

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one who blatantly robs anyone but if people have proof then do something about it.

Jesus christ dude calm down, practice what you preach!
its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts :)
so chill out bud, have a beer:beer2:

At the time of posting i can assure you i was totally as you say "chilled out"

Have a look at your own words.

its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts

Does that also not apply to me???????

Or is it something you hold a monopoly on?

I wasnt being nasty to anyone just pointing out a few truths.

I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

What I do not want to see is a divide between the MG community, we are all here for one simple purpose, so why the hostilities?

I would rather things be channeled in the right direction via the site team in question before airing it on another forum. It only creates bad blood and sucks more people in.

Paul has every right to be asking questions as he cares for XPF as we do for theMGZS, I would be no different if the roles were reversed.

Let's hope any differences can be resolved and let's make the MG community a happy one.

Thanks for understanding that.

Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

Well said matt.

Although i was only a lurker at the time it was truly the best days in the modern MG community.

I do agree with your point tho. Yes xpf has a greater wealth of info. If I cant find an answer to a problem I will search on xpf.

I am a member of XPF ZSC .org themgzr and rovertech.
Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in.

Great points craig and i totally agree with them.

I like you am a member of them all albeit i use XPF as my base.

If you look on most of the said sites you will see i promote the north east meets on most of them and i can say that most of our meets are made up of people from a very wide variation of all of these forums.

I dont really look on it as "I am from this Forum" But more or less has "I am from the MG community"

If anyone has first hand experience of, good or bad, please email me.

Have a chat with Ultimate Racer on XPF For the bad and Lunar racing For the good:smile1:

[talkingcars]

I cant profess to know of any of this but surely someone of the many people he has and i quote for legal reasons "Ripped off"

That is the one I know about, most people don't sue for reasons already stated.

>Quote:
Originally Posted by talkingcars
and http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/T16con.htm is my statment on my own personal experience, I would stand up in a court of law on it! </Quote:

If you are correct why the hell have you not done it??

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one who blatantly robs anyone but if people have proof then do something about it.

Because it took me over a year to find every last thing and the size of the claim wasn't that large, for me it's not about the money, it's about pride.
If I'd known what I know now would I have gone ahead, proberbly not,
can we make other people awear, definatly.

[carmadbaker]

At the time of posting i can assure you i was totally as you say "chilled out"

Have a look at your own words.

you was chilled?:huh: i'd hate to see you annoyed, scary stuff i recon:hang:

i looked at my words, and i did not mean to offend anyone or anything, obviously you took it to heart and im very sorry :sad: as i said though....im much happier in here :):group: i don't do serious conversations, just ask the ex :D

so lets all just have a big cuddle and kiss :kissing2::group: and forget this stupid convo ever happened :) for all those don't want a cuddle and kiss...lets have a beer :D:beer2:

anyone recommend any other good forums that are worth joining?

[Zippy Saloon]

Pros & cons with every forum (same as everything else in life!):

ZSCentral: sometimes goes for days with nothing new posted

XPF: very pro 180 but still lots of helpful people on there

.org: WAAAAYYY too much Napoleon syndrome on there with one or two mods - its just a forum FFS, who died and made you God? And too much pro Chinese / down with Brits for me.

[peterzs]

you was chilled?:huh: i'd hate to see you annoyed, scary stuff i recon:hang:

i looked at my words, and i did not mean to offend anyone or anything, obviously you took it to heart and im very sorry :sad: as i said though....im much happier in here :):group: i don't do serious conversations, just ask the ex :D

so lets all just have a big cuddle and kiss :kissing2::group: and forget this stupid convo ever happened :) for all those don't want a cuddle and kiss...lets have a beer :D:beer2:

anyone recommend any other good forums that are worth joining?

I'll be pleased to buy you a beer but you have to wait till Sept:beer2::beer2:

[Bobdope2002]

Pros & cons with every forum (same as everything else in life!):

ZSCentral: sometimes goes for days with nothing new posted

XPF: very pro 180 but still lots of helpful people on there

.org: WAAAAYYY too much Napoleon syndrome on there with one or two mods - its just a forum FFS, who died and made you God? And too much pro Chinese / down with Brits for me.


I agree with that post if XPF wasnt run by .org moderators itd be awesome (and i wouldntr have got three accounts banned on theyre :laugh:

[SharronB]

So have they banned "BannedBob" lol

[Bobdope2002]

thyeve gone one further thyev banned my ip addy i caNT EVEN GET THE TITLE PAGE TO LOAD

[SharronB]

ahahaha

[Bobdope2002]

childish aernt they

[SharronB]

well it sounds like they deffo dont want you back ;) shame really!

[Zippy Saloon]

I think you could call me semi-banned, never long before I pee off a certain Napoleon and "Hey Presto" I have my privileges restricted...

No way am I paying them £12 again next year (only paid it so you can actually add pics to your posts - makes it a lot easier to help others. As for any other advantages, well no thanks, I don't want a discount on a ***ing Hyundai!)

[carmadbaker]

thyeve gone one further thyev banned my ip addy i caNT EVEN GET THE TITLE PAGE TO LOAD

if you got a network router jus change ur IP addy ;) jus for a laugh! that'll wind em up :)

[Bobdope2002]

I think you could call me semi-banned, never long before I pee off a certain Napoleon and "Hey Presto" I have my privileges restricted...

No way am I paying them £12 again next year (only paid it so you can actually add pics to your posts - makes it a lot easier to help others. As for any other advantages, well no thanks, I don't want a discount on a ***ing Hyundai!)

Nah i would never pay it again i did for 2 years what a rip off

One good thing i can get back onto XPF which theyre seems to still be uproar about me being banned (you can lurk without anyone knowing your theyre)

[Southern Storm]

.......................... so the ornithologist said......... it's a bird! lololololol
Welcome along dude. Some entrance mate. Can't be arsed to comment other than welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay.

[Bobdope2002]

.......................... so the ornithologist said......... it's a bird! lololololol
Welcome along dude. Some entrance mate. Can't be arsed to comment other than welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay.

What can i say im so popular

[stamford]

What can i say im so popular

And I thought it was pity ;)


Big Issue!

[Bobdope2002]

And I thought it was pity ;)


Big Issue!



Ahhh feel sorry for me

[shroonie29]

Was going to post a picture of an animal being stoked(feeling sorry for it lol)
But google gave me this

Not work safe or for the easily offended (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=stroking+pictures&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) :laugh:

[Craig]

was going to post a picture of an animal being stoked(feeling sorry for it lol)
but google gave me this

not work safe or for the easily offended (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=stroking+pictures&btng=google+search&meta=) :laugh:

rofl :d

[Bobdope2002]

Was going to post a picture of an animal being stoked(feeling sorry for it lol)
But google gave me this

Not work safe or for the easily offended (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=stroking+pictures&btnG=Google+Search&meta=) :laugh:


now Shroonie Stop Masterbating :laugh:

[stamford]

:laugh: if that's what you said you were looking for!

[DeMoNPauL]

if you got a network router jus change ur IP addy ;) jus for a laugh! that'll wind em up :)

Now why the hell would they wind up any of us?

[carmadbaker]

Now why the hell would they wind up any of us?

you really don't like me do u paul? lol ah well "ur name is alzo goin on ze list!"
and its fun because you "beat the system" :D whats more fun than showin the system who's boss! whoop whoop!!

[Alan.F]

thyeve gone one further thyev banned my ip addy i caNT EVEN GET THE TITLE PAGE TO LOAD


If you are running through a wired ethernet connection just change your ethernet card you get a new IP addy coz the MAC addy is different

[carmadbaker]

If you are running through a wired ethernet connection just change your ethernet card you get a new IP addy coz the MAC addy is different

:bow: i am not worthy! :bow::sorry: