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mrt_04
12-08-08, 07:17 PM
Me & Mrs Mrt were discussing the most boring cars you can follow of be seen in, in the UK.
She commented on the 400 Rover, boring drivers & cars!!!!!!!, I nearly choked on my ice cream & strawberries.
I say any Kia or Hyundai............borrrrrrinnnnnngg

What do you think guys????????? :yes:

PS...don't mention Audi A4's as Mrs Mrt has just bought one!!!!!!!!

stamford
12-08-08, 07:21 PM
Ford Ka, Kia of any kind, Fiat cinkytesco or whatever it is! I don't care too much for scoobys either :laugh:

Oh and a Volvo..........not fussy which one with the exception of the P1800!

Craig
12-08-08, 07:21 PM
Daewoo Matiz Hyndai accent etc, basically cars that people buy to be as cheap as possible and have no interest in how they drive.

I dont think the new accent is selling too well. My n my son spotted an 06 plate new shape accent and we both have never seen that model before. He knows more car models than I do and he was surprised he had never seen one.

TjP
12-08-08, 07:22 PM
Hyundai is saved by the Coupe though I'd say.

I would say older Volvo's. Newer ones look fairly nice, but the older ones are quite boring IMO.

Ford Mondeo mk1? Pretty boring unless its the ST200...

mrt_04
12-08-08, 07:26 PM
[QUOTE=stamford;65407]Ford Ka, Kia of any kind, Fiat cinkytesco or whatever it is! I don't care too much for scoobys either :laugh:

Cinkytesco!!!!!!!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Craig
12-08-08, 07:30 PM
http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=4777

Winner! do I get a prize? :D

Mat C
12-08-08, 07:30 PM
I agree with Mrs MRT ! I think the Rover 400 is one of the dullest creations ever to appear on earth. So is the Rover 45, it's a beige cardigen with wheels. But the ZS is a different matter. Not even comparable to the Rover zimmerframes. Also, i hate every single Vauxhall - they are the dullest cars currently available. Cars like Toyota Verso's and other top-hat sheds like it do my head in too, as do all MPV's - how dull are they ??!!

mrt_04
12-08-08, 07:32 PM
I have to admit Mat & hate getting stuck behind a Rover 400 driver. Cloth cap & annoying Mrs in passenger seat.!!!!! :angry:

Craig
12-08-08, 07:33 PM
I love parking next to rover 400/45s, makes mine look even better :D

mrt_04
12-08-08, 07:34 PM
http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=4777

Winner! do I get a prize? :D

Your a naughty boy Craig!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Have to say though, havent seen any `dogging` pics of the Vauxhall yet from Sammy!!!!!!! ;)

Bobdope2002
12-08-08, 08:03 PM
All Saxos.Corsa's, Pug 106's what ever theyre all toss

I also hate Ford Kaks worst car on the planet,

Some BMW's

Dan1971
12-08-08, 08:18 PM
For me it's anything which is old but still standard.

It's likely to be driven by an old foggie who has had it since new and treats it well, instead of someone who has one because it came up cheap and has stuck on bigger wheels and stickers.

Eg. My mums Ford Scorpio.

Southside_ZS
12-08-08, 10:29 PM
New shape vectra. Probably the dullest car i've seen. Big square rep box with boring bland interior.

arwilson80
12-08-08, 10:36 PM
Kas, Micras, Smart cars... i can't think of the other one ATM

mrt_04
12-08-08, 11:44 PM
Defo Nissan Micra's.............borrrrrrrrrrring :slap:

dollysprint
12-08-08, 11:52 PM
How can you not like the car that spawned the ZS. thats like saying you dont like the standard DB Aston Martin but you like the sporty version! They look almost identical.

Dave

mrt_04
13-08-08, 12:00 AM
The ZS is a totally different car compared to 400 Rover.
Like the Civic compared to Type R........they are just a totally class :smile2:

dollysprint
13-08-08, 12:33 AM
No the difference is limited to suspension and brakes in the case of the ZS/45 and a nose job and a bit of colour coding over the 400. The ZS came from the 400 or more precisely a prototype KV6 425. Thought this was about looks not the underpinnings which are only moderately uprated in real terms. Civic/type R, Golf/GTI, Escort/XR3i ya cant say one is boring to look at and the other is not it makes little sense. Rover did a brilliant job with the ZS given the financial restraints but essentially too look at the 400 and ZS are the same.

Dave

DeMoNPauL
13-08-08, 01:25 AM
No the difference is limited to suspension and brakes in the case of the ZS/45 and a nose job and a bit of colour coding over the 400. The ZS came from the 400 or more precisely a prototype KV6 425. Thought this was about looks not the underpinnings which are only moderately uprated in real terms. Civic/type R, Golf/GTI, Escort/XR3i ya cant say one is boring to look at and the other is not it makes little sense. Rover did a brilliant job with the ZS given the financial restraints but essentially too look at the 400 and ZS are the same.

Dave

Hmm look at a mk1,mk2 zs and look at a rover 45,400
Hmm drive a ZS then either of the above

= a big difference inside and out

BTW the bodyshape is copied from a old Honda civic.

Maxfly
13-08-08, 04:37 AM
No the difference is limited to suspension and brakes in the case of the ZS/45 and a nose job and a bit of colour coding over the 400. The ZS came from the 400 or more precisely a prototype KV6 425. Thought this was about looks not the underpinnings which are only moderately uprated in real terms. Civic/type R, Golf/GTI, Escort/XR3i ya cant say one is boring to look at and the other is not it makes little sense. Rover did a brilliant job with the ZS given the financial restraints but essentially too look at the 400 and ZS are the same.

Dave


comparing cooking models to the 'hot' models is asking for trouble as that is really what the manufacturers try for is to get the gti etc as the 'halo' model for the range so the normal escort does look dull over the xr3i and same with golf etc i mean there has got to be aesthetic appeal over the normal models . Doesn't mean fowk don't like 400/45 but you park a 400/45 an zs next to each other and see what the comments are, nine time out of ten the 400/45 will be classed as auld mens cars, dull and boring looking and the zs may be called a tarted up rover but i aint heard it called dull yet! i do like the 400.45 myself as yes the basic shell and looks are the same, but it is amazing how much a difference alloys, colour coding etc can make to liven the design up. the new subaru is an extreme version, look at it's cooking models then look at the top of the range sti....still ugly but not near as boring !!

Maxfly
13-08-08, 04:37 AM
Hmm look at a mk1,mk2 zs and look at a rover 45,400
Hmm drive a ZS then either of the above

= a big difference inside and out

BTW the bodyshape is copied from a old Honda civic.


which in turn started from the old Domini ;)

Mat C
13-08-08, 06:17 AM
The 4 door saloon is unique to MGR - Honda never had a 4 door Civic, the agreement was that Honda had the estate (Aerodeck) and MGR had the Saloon. That makes the ZS saloon a true MG ! ;) Still doesn't detract from the fact that the Rover 400/45 is as dull as ditch water.

sarah
13-08-08, 06:32 AM
can i play this game?

i think the cityrover has to be the most boring car EVER!

when Andy used to work for rover, he brought one home for a day and he wasnt impressed at all, un-comfortable drive of a life time!

mattie007
13-08-08, 05:19 PM
Nissan Almera and Micra for me!

Craig
13-08-08, 05:26 PM
Nissan Almera

Good call mate!

I would like to add Mitsubishi (absolutely no)Carisma

dollysprint
13-08-08, 05:41 PM
A true MG,now that is difficult to define. Honda didn't bother with a saloon version of their HH-H because the car was designed for continental Europe who favour hatchbacks,only the UK favour saloons hence Rover pressed ahead with it. Interiors remained the same in either variant and you could argue that the dark hue of the MGZS made it more bland and boring than the more colourful options of the 400/45. The MGZS is a beautiful looking car but you cant make a silk purse out of a pigs ear,the foundation has to be right, and thats the 400. Anyway its all in the eye of the beholder but a few tweeks cant turn dishwater into champagne.

Dave

Bobdope2002
13-08-08, 05:48 PM
No offence here but what have you been sniffing DOlly

The 400 is nothing at all like the ZS mate its like trying to compare water with fire saying theyre the same.

IIRC the zs suspension was designed by some designer from maclaren or some part of mclaren the 400 was designed by a jolly Brummy with a pair of slippers and a tweed hat on :laugh:

The 400 can not be made to look good IMHO theyre is no kit that makes it look good unless you spend thousands converting it to a ZS

Maxfly
13-08-08, 05:49 PM
hmmm well would have to dissagree with the interior colours, yep the zs coul have done with a bit more pizazz, mainly in the mk1 but the colourful options in the 400 like....beige?!?!? Nope don't excite me in slightest, maybe it's the age i grew up in but i will always associate beige and boring as the same thing:)

Bobdope2002
13-08-08, 06:03 PM
hmmm well would have to dissagree with the interior colours, yep the zs coul have done with a bit more pizazz, mainly in the mk1 but the colourful options in the 400 like....beige?!?!? Nope don't excite me in slightest, maybe it's the age i grew up in but i will always associate beige and boring as the same thing:)

The mk1's Interior IMO was dated but adequate and much better than the wood option from the 400.

I assocaite Beige with James May and he is a boring middle aged man :laugh:

dollysprint
13-08-08, 09:48 PM
www.sardracing.co.uk/sard-racing-3-w.asp
A boring 400?
Hope the thread works
Dave

stamford
13-08-08, 10:29 PM
Wish there was more on it to read.

Phate
13-08-08, 11:29 PM
I offer you THE MAESTRO

The most boring car ever in any country ever.

FACT

mrt_04
13-08-08, 11:33 PM
Wish there was more on it to read.

Yeah Mick, bit lacking??? :huh:

Craig
13-08-08, 11:34 PM
I offer you THE MAESTRO

The most boring car ever in any country ever.

FACT

Unless its a turbo

mrt_04
13-08-08, 11:34 PM
I offer you THE MAESTRO

The most boring car ever in any country ever.

FACT


Oh dear...........think I will jump in the trenches & await the calm!!!!!!!!! :ninja:

Mat C
14-08-08, 06:29 AM
IIRC the zs suspension was designed by some designer from maclaren or some part of mclaren the 400 was designed by a jolly Brummy

It was the bodywork package that was designed by Peter Stevens, McLaren F1 designer ! The suspension system however was totaly in-house. You may be surprised to learn that most of it is straight from the Rover 400/45. The upper wishbones were just turned upside down to provide a sharper control ! Beyond that the dampers and springs were unique to the ZS.

Still doesn't redeem the boring Rover 400/45 though !

Phate
14-08-08, 07:29 AM
Unless its a turbo

Turbo or not these cars are epic fail!

Dad has a 2.0 td and words cannot describe how fail it is.

grimmy
14-08-08, 07:16 PM
I had a 416 and as cars go it was nothing spectacular but was anything but boring ,try holding onto it round a bend in the rain and stop yourself from landing in a hedge due to its unbeleivable understeer . Oh happy days and if i may add my tuppence to this thread boring = Prius or any other fecking hybrids, have you seen the civic one it just oozes boring ,hideous:yucky:

Craig
14-08-08, 08:19 PM
Turbo or not these cars are epic fail!

Dad has a 2.0 td and words cannot describe how fail it is.

I would love a Maestro Turbo! I had a 1.3 city X for a company car many moons ago, I broke it in less than a week :D

arwilson80
14-08-08, 09:57 PM
Anyways... back on topic?

Boring cars, not 'bash the 400'. :p

talkingcars
15-08-08, 06:23 AM
I offer you THE MAESTRO

The most boring car ever in any country ever.

FACT

Based on what?
Typical 1980's hatch with scalops!
Much bigger interior than most cars of it's time.

Digi dash, often copied, never beaten!

Turbo or not these cars are epic fail!

Dad has a 2.0 td and words cannot describe how fail it is.

Mmmmmmmm, 86bhp diesel, never gonna set the world alight but will cruise at 90 and still return 45mpg!

EFi's and 2.0i's are quick. Turbo's quicker!
Stick in a T16 and sub 7 second 0-60 are possible, boring?

0-90 (http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/maestromods/Video001.3gp) My T16 maestro running no intercooler so about 170 bhp (filmed on a phone).

They out handle Golfs, I know as I worked as a driver for the local VW dealer for 3 years which is why I offer you -
http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/85/59/3b/21650485-177x150-0-0.jpg
The 1995 VW Passat estate - one of the most bland cars of modern history.

James

P.S. does that look boring...................................vvvvvvv.. ......