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Murray203ps
22-12-08, 07:12 PM
Just a quick thread of a couple of vids of my car on the rollers today at BD Engineering. Had the jets changed slightly by the guys at KAI Performance on my nitrous install and had it rolling roaded to make sure it was all ok. The first vid is without it. Notice how long it takes to get to the rev limiter. The second vid is with nitrous on. He doesn't flick it on till around 3000 revs to make sure he's not going to damage the engine so it seems quite a long time but he just increased the revs slowly to start with.
The first vid.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/murray203ps/th_100_0536.jpg (http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/murray203ps/?action=view&current=100_0536.flv)

The second.Nitrous on.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/murray203ps/th_100_0538.jpg (http://s211.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/murray203ps/?action=view&current=100_0538.flv)

Dave ZS-X
22-12-08, 07:16 PM
cool,what bhp and torque did it make with and without nos.

Dave

Murray203ps
22-12-08, 07:29 PM
Little bit disappointed tbh dave. Well not really disappointed as it's still friggin quick and i try not to get too het up on figures. Without was as follows:

202bhp and 165lbft of torque @6945rpm.(basically on the rev limiter)
Torque is down a bit imo.

With nitrous:

239bhp and 212lbft of torque @6322rpm

IMO i think the rollers are way out. I spoke to ralph who used them before and he rekons the 3 cars he put on there were around 10% out.

I'm more interested in the 47 lbft increase of the torque which you really feel on the road.

Bobdope2002
22-12-08, 07:33 PM
oh gawd not another case of bilbo Disease :lol:

Murray203ps
22-12-08, 07:39 PM
oh gawd not another case of bilbo Disease :lol:

Whats that?

Bobdope2002
22-12-08, 07:50 PM
Whats that?

theyre is a guy over on XPF who had cams fitted and his car was makin very similar power to mine 170 odd bhp atw, he spent loads and loads tryin to get it right ( about £3.5k iirc ) one visit to the banned man on here and he instantly gained 40 odd bhp.

Turned out to be a fooked plenum

rozzr
22-12-08, 07:53 PM
Hey mate,

i like your rep, looks really good - do you ever take it on track days?

sounds great too, what power figures were you hoping for?

Rory

Dave ZS-X
22-12-08, 08:22 PM
Little bit disappointed tbh dave. Well not really disappointed as it's still friggin quick and i try not to get too het up on figures. Without was as follows:

202bhp and 165lbft of torque @6945rpm.(basically on the rev limiter)
Torque is down a bit imo.

With nitrous:

239bhp and 212lbft of torque @6322rpm

IMO i think the rollers are way out. I spoke to ralph who used them before and he rekons the 3 cars he put on there were around 10% out.

I'm more interested in the 47 lbft increase of the torque which you really feel on the road.

well the nitrous is showing a healthy gain over running normal so regardless of the numbers you know its working ,and they are big enough numbers to make for a pretty rapid car tbh.

Dave

Bobdope2002
22-12-08, 09:13 PM
yeh i agree and if it weighted as much as yours dave then itd woule be even better

stamford
22-12-08, 10:45 PM
Oh dear that's a red rag to a bull there! Stripdown on the horizon methinks!

rakester
23-12-08, 03:45 AM
That's awesome, I love the graphics fitted to your car, looks spot on :)

Boot Hill Bandit
23-12-08, 09:03 AM
BD Engineering did a superb job on my mk5 Escort 1.3 fitting the K&N filter and tuning her up........

The Land Rover Disco 3.5 V8 we had, had numerous problems with running rich and missfiring...........they never found a problem with it even though it was 100% guaranteed there was one.........

In the end he took it one day and drove it for 10 miles........on coming back and us collecting it he said there was no problem with it and running really nice and clean.........he didn't charge us and sent us away.......

Turns out a few weeks later that the battery died and when we went to replace it........the battery had broken down and the plates were bobbing about and causing the missfire.....

the overfuelling was never solved as earlier this year it got a little dented :whistle:

Back on topic..........good to know a rough idea of power figures dude as always.........but as far as I am concerned if you enjoy the car and feel it is powerfull enough as you want it to be then thats perfect :D

Jim

Maxxed_Ross
23-12-08, 09:46 AM
that looks fantastic dude, and some really nice numbers to match.

Get it stripped out!

Murray203ps
23-12-08, 10:22 AM
Already been through the whole stripped out thing with the misses. Unless i get another car or she passes her test and gets one then it ain't gonna happen. But really want to do it.Would really make a difference.

With regards to the power it is quick but i really need to see if i can get it back up to what it was whaen i had it re-mapped at 211bhp. Think it might need to be done again.:unsure:

Dave ZS-X
23-12-08, 10:41 AM
it wont do anything murray ,thats just the difference between rollers ,270 cams are getting fairly common now and 206 bhp is what they are generally making with manifolds fitted too.Mine made 212 and 200 on different rollers with exact same spec.
For trackday just remove spare seats ,sparewheel etc ,run with half tank of fuel ,empty your washer bottle ,loads of little things you can do and only takes 30mins to prep and you do see a noticeable difference.

Dave

Murray203ps
23-12-08, 11:08 AM
it wont do anything murray ,thats just the difference between rollers ,270 cams are getting fairly common now and 206 bhp is what they are generally making with manifolds fitted too.Mine made 212 and 200 on different rollers with exact same spec.
For trackday just remove spare seats ,sparewheel etc ,run with half tank of fuel ,empty your washer bottle ,loads of little things you can do and only takes 30mins to prep and you do see a noticeable difference.

Dave

Yeah not expecting much dave. Really need to get to a reliable set of rollers to get a proper figure. When i had a problem with the mil light coming on my dash before, it dropped the bhp by 10. I know it's not a lot but when you've payed the money you expect it to stay there. Need someone whos willing to re-map it for free to see if it will change, then pay up if it does.lol