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im putting in electric windows for the rear, fitted the regulators, door looms, switches and made up my body looms.
-if my car already has driver and passenger electric windows,the only thing im having to worry about here is providing an earthing and a positive point for the rear two windows?
-now would i be right in saying, i could follow where the passenger and driver positive wires lead to, then il find the passenger compartment fuse box?
-would a bolt on one of the seats be a decent earthing point?
thanks
mo
vinny1979
31-01-09, 10:45 AM
earthing points are fine mate!
nice one mate.
is it possible to take the fusebox out without damaging anything.. theres no way i can get under there(nxt to the pedels) to wire in my postive feeds
vinny1979
31-01-09, 12:25 PM
yeah it should just unclip? or use the live feed ( switched +) from your headunit wiring????
so you're saying i could just use a positive feed from anywhere?
afcbadam
31-01-09, 12:43 PM
yea. try to use a switch live so that they are only live when the ignition is on
like the cig lighter perhaps?
vinny1979
31-01-09, 01:30 PM
so the red power wire to headunit is switched, yellow =constant.
markyzs180
31-01-09, 01:52 PM
hang on a minute, are you talking about powering your rear leccy windows from the head unit power feed?
vinny1979
31-01-09, 03:17 PM
lol , ideally no but its a feed, would need to fuse it up, i mean ideally a switched live straight from batt but .............
WE NEED POWER ;)
i just spliced into the positive feed for the passenger side window.
electric rear windows for 40quid all in:D
afcbadam
31-01-09, 10:16 PM
was there much work involved. can you list the parts that you needed aswell please mate as i want to do this to mine and alot of others are to attempt it. it would be much help to us all.
was there much work involved. can you list the parts that you needed as well please mate as i want to do this to mine and a lot of others are to attempt it. it would be much help to us all.
Sure mate. first of all you can check you're car to see if your going to be in for an easy job or a bit of a long one. Two ways you can do it, take off the bottom part of the B-pillar and if you have two cables leaving the pillar going into the rear door, its going to be more work. If you find five cables your in luck! You're car already has the wiring. The other way to check is by looking under your armrest, if you find a brown plug you're in luck, otherwise bit more work!
If you find that the wiring is already present in your car by either finding the brown plug or the five cables behind the B-pillar. all you will need are the motors and switches.
-A motor for each door (mandatory)
-Switch for each door (mandatory)
-Switches in the armrest (manditory)
-Door looms (if found that you don't already have them i.e only 2 wires coming from read doors)
-Body looms (if brown plug isn't found under armrest)
Well i got two full rear doors from a guy that was breaking their car. From the doors i took a motor and the door loom from each side obviously.Each door also had a switch to open/close the window. Then a trip to the scrappy...now after your checks on your car, if you didn't find a brown plug or only found two cables leaving the B-pillar going to the rear doors you will need the body looms. You will find these starting at the B-pillars.
passenger side going down the pillar, under the carpet, under the passenger seat, then up to the armrest.(some wires will stop there as they connect to the switches in the armrest, and some will continue over to the driver side)
driver sideagain starting at the B-pillar, going down then under the drivers seat to the armrest to connect to the switches in the armrest. There will be wires that join are taped up with the wires that came straight from the passenger side these wires are the positive feeds and lead up the drivers side, up past the bonnet release catch to the passenger compartment fuse box (god only knows why its on the drivers side)
You will also need the four switches that are in the armrest.
Now while in the scrapyard i took off the armrest and B-pillar covers. and simply pulled at the looms. but to wire your car up your going to have to take your seats out so you can lay your looms under the carpet.
-Whenever im working with wiring i always disconnect the battery.
-All you do is fit the motors into your doors, replace the door loom with your 'new' one. There will be two wires for your central locking (i think) which can just be spliced into the 'new' door loom.
-Fit you 'new' body loom exactly as you took it out of the car at the scrapyard.
-Take the positive feeds from both switches and connect to the passenger compartment fuse box.
-Find suitable earthing point.
-Job done:D
i might get shouted at for this, but i just spliced both my left rear and right rear positive feeds into the passenger positive feed that was already there (i already had front electric windows). The reason being...i couldn't pull the fuse box out and i believe it is still safe as it is in fact still fused.
i have wiring diagrams from a good guy from another forum so if you would like to have a look at them pm me.
hope this helps some people!
markyzs180
31-01-09, 11:27 PM
lol , ideally no but its a feed, would need to fuse it up, i mean ideally a switched live straight from batt but .............
WE NEED POWER ;)
phew, thats ok then and by the looks of momo's finishing post he realised that too......just had some mad thoughts of his head unit popping like bonfire night every time the kids hit the rear window switch lol :fun:
phew, thats ok then and by the looks of momo's finishing post he realised that too......just had some mad thoughts of his head unit popping like bonfire night every time the kids hit the rear window switch lol :fun:
lol yea i had though that too! you think connecting my two rear positive feeds to the already existing passenger positive feed will be ok!?
vinny1979
31-01-09, 11:47 PM
maybe up the fuse if it pops, say from 20 to 25
markyzs180
31-01-09, 11:49 PM
lol yea i had though that too! you think connecting my two rear positive feeds to the already existing passenger positive feed will be ok!?
Should be ok.......might have a prob if you use them all at the same time as it will pull quite a big load, but hey, how often will that happen? you could always drop an inline fuse (easily accessible!) at a lower rating than the fronts, or put a relay on them........see how it goes...
maybe up the fuse if it pops, say from 20 to 25
thanks mate
Should be ok.......might have a prob if you use them all at the same time as it will pull quite a big load, but hey, how often will that happen? you could always drop an inline fuse (easily accessible!) at a lower rating than the fronts, or put a relay on them........see how it goes...
i think the idea of an in-line fuse is the most obvious. don't no why i didn't think of that!
cheers mate:smartass
markyzs180
31-01-09, 11:55 PM
drop a 10/15 on an in-line, don't up the fuse for the fronts in the fusebox or you may end up frazzled! pity you couldn't check put the fusebox, chances are it would have been wired for the rears then you could have just run the positives from there and fused it, maybe worth checking out in the future...
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