nice but too much?

[marts66]

saw this whilst perusing t'internet, looks like a nice car.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1015044.htm

was this or is this anyones on here?

[midcuk]

its on ebay as well

[stamford]

Looks very nice but 206bhp with a Superchip.................really!

[marts66]

Looks very nice but 206bhp with a Superchip.................really!

after reading what all you 180 owners get, i was wondering the same myself. realistically what will he be getting?

[stamford]

after reading what all you 180 owners get, i was wondering the same myself. realistically what will he be getting?

To put things into perspective I had 190bhp with a decat, Janspeed cat back and a BMC CDA induction kit. After a remap it peaked at 199.4bhp when heatsoak ended the session after 11 runs.

For 206bhp he would need cams to get those figures. A Superchip is only good for a standard car and that would probably give a figure of 187bhp approx. With the mods he has mentioned I would still say sub 190 tbh even though it has a K&N which I do not rate on a 180.

[StragglaSteve]

Always thought chipping and remap got about +15bhp

so i would expect hes on 195bhp?

but the new twin powerflow exhaust system and K&N filter must make up the rest :o

if not 206bhp... then at least close to it! surely?

I would like to think my cold feed and powerflow system gives a combined increase of about 7bhp

[marts66]

Wasn't the 180 rated at 175 the same way the 120 is rated at 115?

[stamford]

All 180's vary from the factory but tend to be around the 177 mark on average.

I had over 206 without weather correction forecasting, maybe Superchips figures don't take this off as it is a laptop installation and not rolling road proven or set-up? With an off the shelf mod you can state what you like as there is no allownace for see before you buy.

[RalphG]

According to this calculator (http://www.torquecars.com/tools/engine-mods-power-gain-calculator.php) he should be around 196bhp.

[Andyf]

That calculator is good, if I had everything done to my 120 it reckons it would reach nearly 227bhp but it did ask me if I wanted to blow up my engine and advised I spend the money on a new car!

[StragglaSteve]

Good calculator!

im no expert so i usually just accept the manufacturers claims :whistle:

[lewerty]

it think with cams on a zs thou will make 201bhp dont think so

[StragglaSteve]

Surley the engine cant be that bad that you have to do every mod under the sun just to see little over 200bhp?

if so, might as well get that VHPD engine on the ptp-ltd website!

[afcbadam]

dont cams and exhaust, decat and induction kit take the 180 to around the 206 bhp mark. whats the remap doing then??? surley if these mods make 206 bhp a remap should up that a bit or do they just sort out the fueling and timing ect

that calculator??? claims a zs makes 197 bhp with all the above mods. take off the cams and it makes 195bhp. so cams are worth 2bhp...... i think its a little bit wrong

[arwilson80]

Doesn't show torque, so while BHP mightn't increase much the torque might... 1 isn't really any good without the other. IMO i'd prefer the torque over power (within achievable proportions). Silly acceleration with reasonable top speed (somewhere about the 120-130 mark). ;)