differences between the 45 and the zs?

[davidkp]

I'm sorry, i'm sure this topic has been bought up a thousand times but i couldn't find anything about it when i did a quick search.

i currently drive an mg zr but am seriously considering upgrading to something nicer, but don't want to leave the mgr scene.

i'm 19, no ncb and pay 1250 as a named driver on the zr :(

so the best i could do insurance wise is get a 110, however if i got a 45 i could look at getting a much bigger engine :)

i'm looking for a mk2, about 2005ish with uber low milage, and would fit a zs180 kit and get myself a set of zs180 wheels on there :)

however, other than styling, what differences exist? i know the 25s and zrs have a differnt steering rack, throttle bodies, exhausts and throttle cables as standard. what performance and handling differences does the 45 have with the zs?

baring in mind i will be looking to splash out on a set of coilovers and a decent exhaust system

thanks :)

[XPCobra]

different steering racks, springs, shocks, steering angles, different front arms ( upper and lower) not sure what else.

[Jay-ZS+]

and would fit a zs180 kit

You will be lucky lol they are non exsistant. If you did manage to find one it would be cheaper to buy the mk2 180 than buy the kit.

J

[davidkp]

You will be lucky lol they are non exsistant. If you did manage to find one it would be cheaper to buy the mk2 180 than buy the kit.

J

i've found one, thats why i'm asking :)

[Jay-ZS+]

Really where lol

[davidkp]

:D

[markyzs180]

Really where lol

nice try jay...don't think he's gonna tell ya lol

[Jay-ZS+]

Lol cant blame me for trying. There has been one on ebay for ages but they want £800 inc wings and bumpers could sell mine and with the £800 buy a mk2 180 lol

[davidkp]

scrappies up north breaking one that has had hgf :mml: but by the time i get a 45 i'm sure it will have gone, he wants to sell it bit by bit to make more profit too :(

i've seen the one on ebay for 800, if its been on there a while, i'm sure he would accept a cheeky offer

[markyzs180]

Lol cant blame me for trying. There has been one on ebay for ages but they want £800 inc wings and bumpers could sell mine and with the £800 buy a mk2 180 lol

go on then...you know you want to :)

[TjP]

The ZS is a major improvement on the 45 in terms of handling, which I think is mostly down to the suspension.

A few bits:

Suspension and Steering

Low ride height
Sports springs and dampers
Front and rear anti-roll bars
Sports tuned power steering
Quick ratio steering rack

Brakes

ABS with EBD (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution)
Ventilated front disc brakes (on 120, 115 TD and 180 models) and solid rear
Front disc brakes and rear drum brakes (on 110 and TD models)
282mm front/260mm rear discs (ZS180)

Edit: Above info was nabbed from a well known MG site, btw ;)

[Jay-ZS+]

go on then...you know you want to :)

I would but going back to uni next year i know theres no way id afford to run and insure it.

[markyzs180]

I would but going back to uni next year i know theres no way id afford to run and insure it.

isn't that what student loans and overdrafts are for? lol

[Jay-ZS+]

No they are for beer and tequila

[davidkp]

No they are for beer and tequila

damn right! :D

[davidkp]

The ZS is a major improvement on the 45 in terms of handling, which I think is mostly down to the suspension.

A few bits:

Suspension and Steering

Low ride height
Sports springs and dampers
Front and rear anti-roll bars
Sports tuned power steering
Quick ratio steering rack

Brakes

ABS with EBD (Electronic Brakeforce Distribution)
Ventilated front disc brakes (on 120, 115 TD and 180 models) and solid rear
Front disc brakes and rear drum brakes (on 110 and TD models)
282mm front/260mm rear discs (ZS180)

Edit: Above info was nabbed from a well known MG site, btw ;)

thanks mate, maybe i should consider a zs then, maybe a td?

[Jay-ZS+]

Why not get insurance quotes on the 120? You can pick them up pretty cheaply now.

[doncaster blues]

Don't discount the 1.6 110bhp, I've had one for about a month now and I'm really impressed by the power it can generate.

I've just come from a TDi Focus and it's like chalk and cheese. In first the zs fair flys and most impressed by the power in 3rd which is miles better than the diesel engine plonked in the focus I had.

The handling is superb, I'd read on the forums about it prior to buying but it really corners like a dream. There's some back roads near me that give it a great workout and it's just great fun.

Forgot to say the brakes are crap though! Bloody drums on the back are useless so if you want to stop in a hurry may be worth looking at the 120!

[TjP]

I would say going down the 45 route is a good way to get the looks of the ZS (with the right mods) but getting the superb handling of the ZS would probably cost more than the insurance premium of a ZS120.

Not based on any fact, but I would have thought this is true... especially if you were to get all the work done at a garage.

[afcbadam]

im 20 and my 180 is £900. im sure you will find it fairly cheap if you look around. my 1998rover 216 was £400 more than the 180!

[Jay-ZS+]

How are u insuring a 180 for that cost me just over £900 for the 120 and im 22 but with only 1yr ncb and 3points. What about your mods are they covered?

[davidkp]

im 20 and my 180 is £900. im sure you will find it fairly cheap if you look around. my 1998rover 216 was £400 more than the 180!

wow who you with?

I would say going down the 45 route is a good way to get the looks of the ZS (with the right mods) but getting the superb handling of the ZS would probably cost more than the insurance premium of a ZS120.

Not based on any fact, but I would have thought this is true... especially if you were to get all the work done at a garage.

i would do most of the work. i've taken a sorn accident damaged zr and made it road worthy in less than a week and had it taxed mot'd and insured within 3 weeks of having bought it smashed :D

Don't discount the 1.6 110bhp, I've had one for about a month now and I'm really impressed by the power it can generate.

I've just come from a TDi Focus and it's like chalk and cheese. In first the zs fair flys and most impressed by the power in 3rd which is miles better than the diesel engine plonked in the focus I had.

The handling is superb, I'd read on the forums about it prior to buying but it really corners like a dream. There's some back roads near me that give it a great workout and it's just great fun.

Forgot to say the brakes are crap though! Bloody drums on the back are useless so if you want to stop in a hurry may be worth looking at the 120!

sounds good mate, tbh i have been looking into these a lot! i've been drooling over this one for a few days now:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190304112915

shame its so far! i would love to go test drive it!

[afcbadam]

im with a-plan. been the cheapest for the last 2 years. not the reason i use them though. i mainly went there as they are 5 minutes up the road.

[Jay-ZS+]

sounds good mate, tbh i have been looking into these a lot! i've been drooling over this one for a few days now:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190304112915

shame its so far! i would love to go test drive it!

Looks nice never seen a mk2 with the hatch spoiler looks alittle odd. Nice colour though :)

[afcbadam]

its standard. most hatches have them dont they? or is it mainly the mk1

[davidkp]

i love the ignition blue! would have to get the wheels powder coated white, coilies and duals :D

[Jay-ZS+]

its standard. most hatches have them dont they? or is it mainly the mk1

Yer seen the MK1's with them but dont think ive ever seen a MK2 with it.

[Southside_ZS]

scrappies up north breaking one that has had hgf :mml: but by the time i get a 45 i'm sure it will have gone, he wants to sell it bit by bit to make more profit too :(

i've seen the one on ebay for 800, if its been on there a while, i'm sure he would accept a cheeky offer

He's breaking it up now. I've had the front wing off it.