2003 MG ZS 180 silver

[zaz]

Sold

[afcbadam]

will you take 1.5k. lol ;), only messing.

get some pics up fella, always helps the sale.

[Dan1971]

Pics and comments are here from the thread last year, so no need for duplication like the man says.

http://themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=5888

Good luck with the sale.

Have you done the belts ?

[cdti]

So it failed MOT? If so, what on?

Also, is the exhaust something that can wait?

[afcbadam]

dan, this could be a goodun for you.

[StragglaSteve]

So it failed MOT? If so, what on?

Also, is the exhaust something that can wait?

He already said what it failed on...

full set of tyres and new break pads required

[Dan1971]

dan, this could be a goodun for you.

To be honest mate, I'd not want budget tyres, I'd replace the exhaust not patch it, and possibley the belts, so there's maybe about a grand needing spent on it. For over £2,500, I'd get a Mk 2.

[afcbadam]

thats a fair point.

[zaz]

Thanks for the responses, @CDTI, the exhaust needs either patching on the pipe or the backbox replacing to pass the MOT by getting it through the emissions test, unless you know someone who is willing to wave the testing rod in the fresh air for a reading :D

@Dan, the service book says it had its 75k service at 39k miles and has the cambelt box ticked, so id say thats a yes. However, for anyone planning on buying this car to keep i guess they would change it again sooner or later ?

[afcbadam]

nothing to stop a previous owner ticking the cambelt box!

[cdti]

Thanks for the responses, @CDTI, the exhaust needs either patching on the pipe or the backbox replacing to pass the MOT by getting it through the emissions test, unless you know someone who is willing to wave the testing rod in the fresh air for a reading :D

@Dan, the service book says it had its 75k service at 39k miles and has the cambelt box ticked, so id say thats a yes. However, for anyone planning on buying this car to keep i guess they would change it again sooner or later ?

If you can get definte confirmation the belts have been done, i.e. receipts for the work, id be more than interested.

[zaz]

While it seems to have a lot of receipts for the services and work its had done, the ones that tally up with the 4th and 5th year (60k and 75k) services dont show any cambelt work done, though they do state the relevant servicing has been done that is scheduled.
The Haynes manual suggests 90k for belts with 60k advisable for mostly town driven cars. Mine sits at 47k currently so i think its safe to say that while the service book has it ticked, the belts have not been done and would be reasonably due up in 13k miles.

[afcbadam]

the belts on a 180 are due after 90k or 6 years which ever comes first. they have snapped after 60k, thats why its advised

[Dan1971]

While it seems to have a lot of receipts for the services and work its had done, the ones that tally up with the 4th and 5th year (60k and 75k) services dont show any cambelt work done, though they do state the relevant servicing has been done that is scheduled.
The Haynes manual suggests 90k for belts with 60k advisable for mostly town driven cars. Mine sits at 47k currently so i think its safe to say that while the service book has it ticked, the belts have not been done and would be reasonably due up in 13k miles.

Perhaps the garage could supply details of the work actually carried out ..... ?

[zaz]

The receipt shows the parts schedule and unfortunately no belts are listed. I could ask but im not hopeful. That said, they are still well within tolerances.

[fastmike]

Surely if its registered in 2003 the belts are due now ?

[zaz]

According to the absolute letter of guidance, yes. Personally im not that concerned when its only 47k showing, regardless of the belts being 6 years old or not. Plus im not forking out money i wont get back for a car im not keeping. Or not driving, whichever lasts longest.

:)

[starfire039]

As far as I'm concerned, if the car's done 30k and is 6 years old, it needs a cambelt change, no questions asked. My friends TT had it's cambelt snap- the manual recommended only mileage and said nothing about age. His cambelt went before it was "due". He successfully got £1500 out of Audi as they should have included this information in the service book, or contacted the previous owner (who was his sister from new) that there is an error in the service book.

Belt(s) MUST be replaced at a 6 year gap regardless of mileage (or if car does 90k first, even then I'd change it a little before to err on the side of caution).

.........................that said, I just checked, my 12 year old clio hasn't had a cambelt change, getting it done for my little sister when she passes her test :laugh:

[zaz]

Its a moot point either way, i can neither afford to change them nor want to as im not keeping the car anyway.

[Alan.F]

According to the absolute letter of guidance, yes. Personally im not that concerned when its only 47k showing, regardless of the belts being 6 years old or not. Plus im not forking out money i wont get back for a car im not keeping. Or not driving, whichever lasts longest.

:)

My 2003 180 had only done 29k when i bought her January and i hd the bets done i am glad i did because the big plastic pulley that the belt goes around broke up when we removed it so dont think that because its only done 47k it wont fail

[Alan.F]

Its a moot point either way, i can neither afford to change them nor want to as im not keeping the car anyway.


Well i know you are not interested in this but you wont get 2k without the belts being done more like £1200 sorry

[afcbadam]

my 180 is due its belts in january, current milage is 28k. a £500 belt change in some instances adds £750 in value to some vehicles

[zaz]

Well i know you are not interested in this but you wont get 2k without the belts being done more like £1200 sorry

Not sure why you're posting if you have no interest in the car yourself, to be honest, sorry.

[RudeDogg1]

to give you a heads up cuz u wont be getting 2k for it with out the belts done perhaps? sighs

[zaz]

Got to love all these fortune tellers who can see the future

[vinny1979]

Yeah but zaz to be fair this is an mgzs forum , where 180 owners have experienced belts snapping at all intervals.

They are mainly speaking from experience and not trying to fob you off etc. I just feel you are not giving the " experts" ( being us) any credit. We speak from experience as I said.

And as a guide I paid 3k for a 2005 mk2 zs180 with 27000 miles on the clock.

£1300-£1500 is very reasonable for a mk1 which is due a belt change, end of. But good luck with the sale. But if that belt goes its new engine time, no matter how you word your 6 year / 90k mile speech

And seems as your car has been for sale since nov 08, and you paid 5 k for it not too long ago id take what I can . Sorry mate but all IMHO

[RudeDogg1]

Got to love all these fortune tellers who can see the future

not realy the attitude for a NEWBIE to have

[Alan.F]

Got to love all these fortune tellers who can see the future


With this sort of attitude to the people that are trying to help you i know of a brand new belt fail after less then 100 miles

[zaz]

Guess you're right, wont offer excuses, ill just apologise for being overly gruff. Sorry all :)

[afcbadam]

i would sell my 180 as i really want something with a turbo, but i couldnt let it go for such stupid money.

[Alan.F]

i would sell my 180 as i really want something with a turbo, but i couldnt let it go for such stupid money.

Thats the problem these days they are worth more to us than anyone is willing to pay for a car that really should still be selling at a higher price

[afcbadam]

if i could get 3 k for it + what ever i could sell the modifications for i would do it. reality is i wouldnt get anywhere near that so ill keep it!


i was looking at other cars, performance, age and milage wise to my 180.
mine has 28k miles and is a 2004/53 plate

zs 180 about 2.5k
civic type r around 6.5k
astra gsi around 5.5k
clio 182 around 5k
octavia vrs around 5.5k

such a shame the zs is such a cheap car. its bad to sell, and great to buy

[zaz]

Might strip it for parts, probably worth more that way, if a little dirty and time consuming

[afcbadam]

stripping any older 180 in all honesty a wise move. its hard to say but i will consider this option when i move on from my zs (not for a while yet though!) the second hand engine alone should fetch £500. the mk1 straights are going for around £250 on ebay, spoiler £80-£100 then what ever you would get for the body panels ect

[zaz]

Back to plan A, got nowhere to keep the car when it gets stripped down.