View Full Version : Average speed cameras A80 Roadworks
markoos08
19-10-09, 07:59 PM
Just a heads up folks-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8315078.stm
peterzs
19-10-09, 08:25 PM
Just a heads up folks-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/8315078.stm
You wouldn't mind if you saw people working, we went up the M6 the other day, loads of average speed cameras, over 3 to 4 miles, narrow lanes and I don't think we saw any work actually being carried out!!
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******* BASTARDS!!!!! thats right outside my house :( its the most pointless speed limit in the world, u cnt just go from a 70 to a 40 the entire 8 miles just cause there are cones!
Its okay if folk stick to the limit but folk dont even though these things are there, but if you do go 40MPH, then you getting overtaken by a lorry etc etc, so these ASC devices are pointless.
Try doing 40 in a V6 ZS, is nigh on impossible.
Yampiedog
19-10-09, 09:41 PM
They had these on the M27 and they actually worked, people stuck to the limit and the section they covered never suffered from traffic jams, it did get busy but never seemed to come to a standstill. Although I do hate speed cameras!
You wouldn't mind if you saw people working, we went up the M6 the other day, loads of average speed cameras, over 3 to 4 miles, narrow lanes and I don't think we saw any work actually being carried out!!
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Thats because just after you join the 3 or 4 sets of road works there is a sign that says over night work being carried out
Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
peterzs
20-10-09, 12:57 PM
Thats because just after you join the 3 or 4 sets of road works there is a sign that says over night work being carried out
I'm all for keeping the workforce safe, we used to cut Christchurch bypass verges, the official rule was the slow lane closed off with cones, if cutting nearside and fast lane when cutting central reservations. Thats in a 70mph section, if it was below 70 we didnt have to cone off. The alternative was the 3 vehicle rolling road block, 2 transits with flashing signs, pointing left or right and a bumper lorry, flashing strobes etc.
That cost £2,200 + VAT for a day or part day.
Same with litter collecting.
Fair enough if the work is done at night, but why don't they flood the work with labour. When you do see people its never 40 - 50 more like 10.
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Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
look mate, there are 2 mile strectches of the damn thing that havnt been touched in months, but the cones are still there and the 30mph speed restriction!! i hav absolutley no problem with the speed when there are people working, in fact i usually go slower when passing them, but even then the work only gets dun at night
and if u think its just me that thinks its ridiculous, in the paper today, in 24 hours they caught 600 people doin more than 40mph, as everyone thinks its a joke!
peterzs
21-10-09, 08:57 AM
What's the fine now, £60? x 600 = £36,000, in 24 hours, makes you wonder where all the money goes!!!
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oh dear its started, they are putting them in place :cry:
Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
Well said.
look mate, there are 2 mile strectches of the damn thing that havnt been touched in months, but the cones are still there and the 30mph speed restriction!! i hav absolutley no problem with the speed when there are people working, in fact i usually go slower when passing them, but even then the work only gets dun at night
and if u think its just me that thinks its ridiculous, in the paper today, in 24 hours they caught 600 people doin more than 40mph, as everyone thinks its a joke!
If 600 people are stupid enough to get done for speeding when it is clearly signed then that's their problem, these idiots are the kind of people that shouldn't be allowed to do 70mph when there are no road works! Unfortunately people ignore the speed limit signs so they have to enforce it with cameras, if people could be trusted it wouldn't be necessary. I stopped an idiot doing 90 through a 50 at night with the matrix flashing, "Workforce in road, slow" he total ignored it and admitted seeing it.
Those workers have a very dangerous job, I wouldn't want to do it, a 40mph limit for a few miles is not the end of the world.
Well said.
If 600 people are stupid enough to get done for speeding when it is clearly signed then that's their problem, these idiots are the kind of people that shouldn't be allowed to do 70mph when there are no road works! Unfortunately people ignore the speed limit signs so they have to enforce it with cameras, if people could be trusted it wouldn't be necessary. I stopped an idiot doing 90 through a 50 at night with the matrix flashing, "Workforce in road, slow" he total ignored it and admitted seeing it.
Those workers have a very dangerous job, I wouldn't want to do it, a 40mph limit for a few miles is not the end of the world.
right so we are not allowed to question the fact that this is inappropriate, and im not talking about speeding past the workforce if u had bothered to read my posts! they shouldnt turn what is effectivly an 8 mile stretch of motorway to 40 mph, then only work at one tiny bit at a time! fair enough, reduce the speed, but 40 is bordering on ridiculous!
peterzs
24-10-09, 11:06 AM
Whats the reason for working at night???
Cost wise you have to pay overtime/night shift working rates.
Youve got to light up the area thats being worked.
Health and safety must be a lot harder to comply with, ie. dark areas, shadows, tirdness. trip hazards, being seen.
Just working at night with the best lights in the world you will still get shadows.
All the materials being moved into and off site, loading/ unloading.
And if the work area is being coned off/ava speed cameras in use 24/7 why not work during the day???
All I think is thats its counter productive, after travelling at 20 mph in a 40mph a.s.cam. area without any work being carried out, next time you come across a slow down, men working sign, you dont give it the regard you should.
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right so we are not allowed to question the fact that this is inappropriate, and im not talking about speeding past the workforce if u had bothered to read my posts! they shouldnt turn what is effectivly an 8 mile stretch of motorway to 40 mph, then only work at one tiny bit at a time! fair enough, reduce the speed, but 40 is bordering on ridiculous!
And if you had bothered to read my post you would have seen that at no point did I say anything about questioning whether 40 mph was inappropriate or not, I merely said it is not a big deal to do 40mph for a few miles and that cameras are necessary to ensure it is complied with.
Anyway, do you seriously think that someone somewhere sat down and plucked the 40mph figure from the air thinking it would cause maximum disruption to everyone? Or do you think they followed policy that has been carefully worked out?
40mph may seem slow but they have obviously come up with it for a reason and not just to annoy people.
I don't know why they don't seem to work during the day but again there must be a reason.
I don't know where this "they only work at night " thing came from i am up and down that road three maybe four times a day and as far as i can tell it's twenty four hours a day when work is going on, i work at road sides every now and again and even 40 mph is scary when people are going past. let's not forget that this section of road has been in dire need of upgrading for at least 15 years and we must accept that there is going to be disruption after all there is at least three bridges which need demolished and rebuilt never mind how many streches which need widened as far as i am concerned the vultures are probably a good thing while the work is going on.
I don't know where this "they only work at night " thing came from i am up and down that road three maybe four times a day and as far as i can tell it's twenty four hours a day when work is going on, i work at road sides every now and again and even 40 mph is scary when people are going past. let's not forget that this section of road has been in dire need of upgrading for at least 15 years and we must accept that there is going to be disruption after all there is at least three bridges which need demolished and rebuilt never mind how many streches which need widened as far as i am concerned the vultures are probably a good thing while the work is going on.
i agree, i wouldnt like to be workin out there either, which is why i dnt drive any faster than 40 whilst going through the area where they are working! but from moodiesburn lights all the way to auchenkilns there is rarely anyone working!
markoos08
25-10-09, 07:52 AM
i agree, i wouldnt like to be workin out there either, which is why i dnt drive any faster than 40 whilst going through the area where they are working! but from moodiesburn lights all the way to auchenkilns there is rarely anyone working!
Hate to disagree,but Grimmy is right,there are all sorts of works going on,not necessarily right next to the road,but clearly in the associated area.Clearly this speed limit isn't being imposed willy-nilly but for a very good reason.As the original poster I didn't think it would provoke such a debate,as it was just meant to be a heads up for anyone who hadn't seen any news items on the cameras.
As I was using this very road yesterday, the yellow vultures (SPEC's) are in operation, if you look they are run by generators right next to them.
Anyway the locations of these cameras are:
To/from the M73 to Slip road onto/from A80
2 at the bridge near Balloch area
As for the idiots that dont abide with the speed limit (40MPH), it is very funny to watch as these folk go tearing past then brake right at the camera, silly idiots!
And as for the Comet van that was in front of me yesterday he is defo gonna get points and a fine, he was powering past these cameras like they didnt exsist.
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