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peterzs 16-07-08 02:33 PM

Welcome Bob, you've certainly made an entrance, all goes over my head, but some good news, my diesel is back from the dead and goes almost like a 180 again (boost pipe fell off):hi:

SharronB 16-07-08 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterzs (Post 61309)
but some good news, my diesel is back from the dead and goes almost like a 180 again (boost pipe fell off):hi:

Great news! I bet your pleased thats all it was! :D :thumbsup:

Mat C 16-07-08 02:51 PM

Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

Craig 16-07-08 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat C (Post 61317)
Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

I agree lol :mml:

Mat C 16-07-08 03:02 PM

Bl00dy comedian ! :beer2:

peterzs 16-07-08 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharronB (Post 61316)
Great news! I bet your pleased thats all it was! :D :thumbsup:

Most likely doing a wave by at Horam Inn trying to sound like your one didn't help, did you get to Duxford?:super::super:

Craig 16-07-08 03:12 PM

I do agree with your point tho. Yes xpf has a greater wealth of info. If I cant find an answer to a problem I will search on xpf. We do see ourselves as a friendly community, with a laid back attitude to posts, but we are willing to disagree if we think something isnt right (as we proved recently :)) We also have Kevg (aka the bulldog) who doesnt exactly hold back :D

I am a member of XPF ZSC .org themgzr and rovertech. My time is primarily spent on here obv and to some extent on thezr site as I have been a member there for years. Personally, I dont feel the same spirit on .org or XPF probs as I have never been a very active poster on those sites. I visit ZScentral almost daily also, but its not the busiest place.

I suppose I prefer the atmosphere here as its a closer knit community as we are newer and Its easy to keep track of the members and relate to them. We have a very high proportion of members who visit the site daily.

Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in. I believe that we satisfy a need in the MGR community, if we didnt, we wouldnt be doing so well

Mat C 16-07-08 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig 180 (Post 61327)
We also have Kevg (aka the bulldog) who doesnt exactly hold back :D

I suppose I prefer the atmosphere here as its a closer knit community. We have a very high proportion of members who visit the site daily.

Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in. I believe that we satisfy a need in the MGR community, if we didnt, we wouldnt be doing so well

No one can accuse Kev of backing down - last weeks drama was better than settling down to watch a good film !

And yes, this site does have a strong core group with some excellent contributors - my car wouldn't be how it is today (brilliant in my opinion !) if it wasn't for the advice and tips from various members here !

And this site has become a force in it's own right. I'm a member of ZScentral but i can't stand it's layout - very messy - so i rarely ever use it. Luckily this site is 99% idiot free. Now and again one creeps through but as i've always said - if the world didn't have nutters it would be a very dull place ! :D

Bobdope2002 16-07-08 03:53 PM

why do all my threads end up like this :laugh:

Id like to emphasis (sp?) i think XPF is a great site Has very good information about the ZS180

I fount the XPF site just as friendly as this one shame the mod team Minus Paul are twats

But i have nothing but bad things to say about .org £12 for a subscriptin when the site is constantly lagging and locking up

You tell Steve childs and he doesnt want to know

Mat C 16-07-08 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobdope2002 (Post 61333)
shame the mod team Minus Paul are twats


I can't comment on that (appart from Paul is sound) as i don't personaly know them or have had any disputes with them. However, i do find it odd that one of their moderators has only 420 posts. How does this qualify him to be a moderator, understanding the users and how the site works ? A moderator should be someone who has made a big and regular contribution to the site, not just one of your mates ! That's how it used to be on XPF - if you was a big contributor to the site and went out of your way to assist with the running of things or organising events then you would be asked to represent the site - a moderator. That's the way, i'm glad to see, it works here :)

Bobdope2002 16-07-08 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat C (Post 61335)
I can't comment on that (appart from Paul is sound) as i don't personaly know them or have had any disputes with them. However, i do find it odd that one of their moderators has only 420 posts. How does this qualify him to be a moderator, understanding the users and how the site works ? A moderator should be someone who has made a big and regular contribution to the site, not just one of your mates ! That's how it used to be on XPF - if you was a big contributor to the site and went out of your way to assist with the running of things or organising events then you would be asked to represent the site - a moderator. That's the way, i'm glad to see, it works here :)

Yeah Paul is sound

Ive had a few run ins with them over on .org and two of the mods from .org run Xpf Too

I just didint agree with how they'd give no lenience on the matter theyd just infract you over on .org where as XPF there was a lenience youd get a pm saying can you remove or not do it again

I wouldnt be surprised if someone from .org hasnt picked up on this and is over theyre slating me

AM I BOVVVVEREDDDDDD :laugh:

Mat C 16-07-08 04:15 PM

Best bet is then Bob, just to stay here, keep a cool head and enjoy the advice and banter on offer here ! :)

sarah 16-07-08 04:18 PM

everyone is welcome here, :)

mattie007 16-07-08 05:06 PM

Thanks for the post about XPF's history Mat C. Good to know how it all started and how its panned out now. Its my main MG forum but I use this one just as much now.

Can I just ask, what was all the drama about this forum last week and why KevG has gone?!

Mat C 16-07-08 05:10 PM

I wasn't aware Kev G had gone - after all, he is one of the site owners !

Maxxed_Ross 16-07-08 05:18 PM

I managed to miss the drama too, was that when Jim (boothill bandit) left?

Kev has indeed left us










because he is away on holday!

Bobdope2002 16-07-08 05:31 PM

i heard a rumour he had an argument With RSM????

Maxxed_Ross 16-07-08 05:34 PM

that sounds very possible

Craig 16-07-08 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobdope2002 (Post 61369)
i heard a rumour he had an argument With RSM????

Kev or Jim lol?

Bobdope2002 16-07-08 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig 180 (Post 61378)
Kev or Jim lol?

KevG i believe i may be completley wrong

mattie007 16-07-08 05:42 PM

Clears things up a bit then!

Craig 16-07-08 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobdope2002 (Post 61381)
KevG i believe i may be completley wrong

You are completely right mate :D

Bobdope2002 16-07-08 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig 180 (Post 61384)
You are completely right mate :D

Guess how i fount that out ive only been here two days

talkingcars 16-07-08 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZSx (Post 61301)
Talkingcars
If your talking about who I think you are then Ignore him....snip.....Anything further should be confined to PM's or emails so as to take the negative posting away from the forum.

If anyone has first hand experience of, good or bad, please email me.

stamford 16-07-08 10:24 PM

Some very good debate going on in here, some valid and wise words from Mat too, nice to see.

As for who started what, I think there are a few who can lay claim to that ;)

DeMoNPauL 17-07-08 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 61210)
He has been succsessfully sued by someone I know for £11,000! This was mostly for parts removed and "lost" from a car he was supposdily installing a new engine. He disappeared for quite sometime after this and I'm not sure if he paid up in the end.

He has various technics from staging robberies when customers are around to declaring himself bancrupt to moving.

The biggest problem I'm having is getting people to tell me about their own personal experience as they are either scared of him, he has since done them a little favour, or for some reason are unwilling to tell me the good stories!I could go on but I'm saving it!

I cant profess to know of any of this but surely someone of the many people he has and i quote for legal reasons "Ripped off"

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 61211)
and http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/T16con.htm is my statment on my own personal experience, I would stand up in a court of law on it!

If you are correct why the hell have you not done it??

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one who blatantly robs anyone but if people have proof then do something about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by carmadbaker (Post 61252)
Jesus christ dude calm down, practice what you preach!
its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts :)
so chill out bud, have a beer:beer2:

At the time of posting i can assure you i was totally as you say "chilled out"

Have a look at your own words.

Quote:

its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts
Does that also not apply to me???????

Or is it something you hold a monopoly on?

I wasnt being nasty to anyone just pointing out a few truths.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 61281)
I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

What I do not want to see is a divide between the MG community, we are all here for one simple purpose, so why the hostilities?

I would rather things be channeled in the right direction via the site team in question before airing it on another forum. It only creates bad blood and sucks more people in.

Paul has every right to be asking questions as he cares for XPF as we do for theMGZS, I would be no different if the roles were reversed.

Let's hope any differences can be resolved and let's make the MG community a happy one.

Thanks for understanding that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat C (Post 61317)
Forums can't just be about being nicey-nice all the time and saying 'I agree' and 'lol' to everything. Sometimes constructive views and opinions have to be put forward and hand in hand with that will go negative views. We have to have negative views as Witnes$ states so that we can learn from them or other peoples experiances. I don't like this view and attitude that if something slightly worrying or negative is said that it has to be dealt with. By all means keep an eye on it but don't lock everything, team; you're a good bunch but lets not be trigger happy ! ;)
The very meaning of the word forum (Latin) is a medium for open discussion of subjects of public interest. How can we have open discussion if we are not allowed to air negative views and home-truths now and again ? I feel it is my duty that if someone has provided a service that is no more than a criminal activity masquarading as a legitimate business to inform the masses so no one else will be fleeced - surely this is in the ethos of the whole idea of having an online community ? ; to share with our fellow owners some sound advice. If one mans 'business' suffers from this then tough, learn how to be honest ! We all know he's a sore subject but unfortunatly he keeps poping back up and we mustn't let others be conned.
As for the age old rivalry between forums, it will always happen. XPF is the ultimate MGR website and i don't mean that in any offence to this site, it's just a simple truth ! However, sometimes it's the smaller communities like this and Sportscar-racing that have the greater appeal because the core user group is interacting with eachother on a near daily basis and wether we are a regular user or part of the admin/mods' team we all look out for eachother. It's for that reason why i prefer to do my posting here and spend my net time here. XPF is more for a quick browse now.
I would just like to make it clear to the admin/mods team that i'm not trying to be provocative here or stir anything up, all i'm doing is looking at things from both sides - how a regular user would see it and how a moderator would see it ! :)

Well said matt.

Although i was only a lurker at the time it was truly the best days in the modern MG community.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig 180 (Post 61327)
I do agree with your point tho. Yes xpf has a greater wealth of info. If I cant find an answer to a problem I will search on xpf.

I am a member of XPF ZSC .org themgzr and rovertech.
Its a good thing that there are so many MGR related sites cos thats what we are so interested in.

Great points craig and i totally agree with them.

I like you am a member of them all albeit i use XPF as my base.

If you look on most of the said sites you will see i promote the north east meets on most of them and i can say that most of our meets are made up of people from a very wide variation of all of these forums.

I dont really look on it as "I am from this Forum" But more or less has "I am from the MG community"

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 61417)
If anyone has first hand experience of, good or bad, please email me.

Have a chat with Ultimate Racer on XPF For the bad and Lunar racing For the good:smile1:

talkingcars 17-07-08 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL (Post 61532)
I cant profess to know of any of this but surely someone of the many people he has and i quote for legal reasons "Ripped off"

That is the one I know about, most people don't sue for reasons already stated.

Quote:

>Quote:
Originally Posted by talkingcars
and http://home.btconnect.com/talkingcars/T16con.htm is my statment on my own personal experience, I would stand up in a court of law on it! </Quote:

If you are correct why the hell have you not done it??

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one who blatantly robs anyone but if people have proof then do something about it.
Because it took me over a year to find every last thing and the size of the claim wasn't that large, for me it's not about the money, it's about pride.
If I'd known what I know now would I have gone ahead, proberbly not,
can we make other people awear, definatly.

carmadbaker 17-07-08 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL (Post 61532)
At the time of posting i can assure you i was totally as you say "chilled out"

Have a look at your own words.

you was chilled?:huh: i'd hate to see you annoyed, scary stuff i recon:hang:

i looked at my words, and i did not mean to offend anyone or anything, obviously you took it to heart and im very sorry :sad: as i said though....im much happier in here :):group: i don't do serious conversations, just ask the ex :D

so lets all just have a big cuddle and kiss :kissing2::group: and forget this stupid convo ever happened :) for all those don't want a cuddle and kiss...lets have a beer :D:beer2:

anyone recommend any other good forums that are worth joining?

Zippy Saloon 17-07-08 11:16 AM

Pros & cons with every forum (same as everything else in life!):

ZSCentral: sometimes goes for days with nothing new posted

XPF: very pro 180 but still lots of helpful people on there

.org: WAAAAYYY too much Napoleon syndrome on there with one or two mods - its just a forum FFS, who died and made you God? And too much pro Chinese / down with Brits for me.

peterzs 17-07-08 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carmadbaker (Post 61547)
you was chilled?:huh: i'd hate to see you annoyed, scary stuff i recon:hang:

i looked at my words, and i did not mean to offend anyone or anything, obviously you took it to heart and im very sorry :sad: as i said though....im much happier in here :):group: i don't do serious conversations, just ask the ex :D

so lets all just have a big cuddle and kiss :kissing2::group: and forget this stupid convo ever happened :) for all those don't want a cuddle and kiss...lets have a beer :D:beer2:

anyone recommend any other good forums that are worth joining?

I'll be pleased to buy you a beer but you have to wait till Sept:beer2::beer2:

Bobdope2002 17-07-08 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy Saloon (Post 61603)
Pros & cons with every forum (same as everything else in life!):

ZSCentral: sometimes goes for days with nothing new posted

XPF: very pro 180 but still lots of helpful people on there

.org: WAAAAYYY too much Napoleon syndrome on there with one or two mods - its just a forum FFS, who died and made you God? And too much pro Chinese / down with Brits for me.


I agree with that post if XPF wasnt run by .org moderators itd be awesome (and i wouldntr have got three accounts banned on theyre :laugh:

SharronB 17-07-08 05:21 PM

So have they banned "BannedBob" lol

Bobdope2002 17-07-08 05:24 PM

thyeve gone one further thyev banned my ip addy i caNT EVEN GET THE TITLE PAGE TO LOAD

SharronB 17-07-08 05:25 PM

ahahaha

Bobdope2002 17-07-08 05:26 PM

childish aernt they

SharronB 17-07-08 05:31 PM

well it sounds like they deffo dont want you back ;) shame really!

Zippy Saloon 17-07-08 07:07 PM

I think you could call me semi-banned, never long before I pee off a certain Napoleon and "Hey Presto" I have my privileges restricted...

No way am I paying them £12 again next year (only paid it so you can actually add pics to your posts - makes it a lot easier to help others. As for any other advantages, well no thanks, I don't want a discount on a ***ing Hyundai!)

carmadbaker 17-07-08 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobdope2002 (Post 61733)
thyeve gone one further thyev banned my ip addy i caNT EVEN GET THE TITLE PAGE TO LOAD

if you got a network router jus change ur IP addy ;) jus for a laugh! that'll wind em up :)

Bobdope2002 17-07-08 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy Saloon (Post 61750)
I think you could call me semi-banned, never long before I pee off a certain Napoleon and "Hey Presto" I have my privileges restricted...

No way am I paying them £12 again next year (only paid it so you can actually add pics to your posts - makes it a lot easier to help others. As for any other advantages, well no thanks, I don't want a discount on a ***ing Hyundai!)

Nah i would never pay it again i did for 2 years what a rip off

One good thing i can get back onto XPF which theyre seems to still be uproar about me being banned (you can lurk without anyone knowing your theyre)

Southern Storm 22-07-08 05:20 PM

.......................... so the ornithologist said......... it's a bird! lololololol
Welcome along dude. Some entrance mate. Can't be arsed to comment other than welcome. Hope you enjoy your stay.


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