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Jason04r 16-08-13 12:56 PM

I can insure a Mazda 3 MPS ( 2.3L 260BHP ) for 1000 euros.

Must be down to how rare the car is and thinking about parts if something was to go wrong. Still alot cheaper than UK - (I'm 23 Years old btw ), 2 Years no claims.. Insurance for the 1.6 8v astra was £2000 if i lived at my old address haha

Smokey 16-08-13 01:35 PM

I'd buy a Mazda 3 :laugh:

Jason04r 16-08-13 01:42 PM

Yea i was looking at them but they go for 8000 euros compared to 4k RHD ...

Rather have the ZS tbh :)

Smokey 16-08-13 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 317527)

Great way to 1. overheat the brakes and 2. have melted plastic on your car lmao!

Jason04r 19-08-13 08:21 AM

Found cheaper insurance - 1050 euros from linea direct ( Direct Line )

Happy days!

peterzs 19-08-13 08:32 AM

They are OK, just when I had their renewal price it was £100 odd more that the cheapest one on Go Compare.

When I queried it they said it was a new customer discount, first time you go with them????

Jason04r 19-08-13 08:54 AM

First time with this company. I'm with a company called balumba for 2 years and they quote 1500 euros so i'm going to call them and ask for a better price seems i've been with them for 2 years.... Lets see

peterzs 19-08-13 09:18 AM

Good luck, think they are starting to price match, over here.

;););)

Jason04r 22-08-13 02:49 PM

Got my new clutch last night so i'm going to install it tonight if i can be bothered but before that. Does anyone know the Torque for the flywheel nuts?

Still waiting for my haynes manual to arrive.

Thanks!

petet16 22-08-13 04:00 PM

Flywheel to crank bolts ?. 80Nm if so.

Jason04r 25-08-13 05:29 PM

Right so i'm trying to align the clutch.I have the gearbox shaft from the old gearbox which i can use to align the clutch.

Why will it not slot in ? Seems i would need to use a hammer and alot of force just to get the shaft in. Is this normal?

petet16 25-08-13 05:55 PM

No, is the old input shaft straight, or does it have any burrs on the end, it should just slide in, maybe you've found the reason the old gearbox had been taken apart.

Jason04r 25-08-13 08:09 PM

Looks okay to the eye , first 4-5mm goes in and then it gets stuck.

I've used a socket for now and seems to be straight enough but the gearbox should arrive tomorrow so i'll see then.

Jason04r 31-08-13 05:42 PM

Jumped into the car and pressed the clutch down by accident.

Now clutch slave cylinder now looks like this.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps52f0ffb9.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psba55b0c4.jpg

Can it be saved ? if so does anyone know how the hell it goes together.

petet16 31-08-13 06:00 PM

Yep, it can be saved.

You will need to separate the pipe joint and remove the slave, then fill it with brake fluid, drop the spring in and then the piston with the seals at the top of the cylinder, while trying to push the piston in you'll need a second pair of hands to unseat the valve in the pipe, then put the push rod into place and the rubber dust seal, and then to prevent the piston popping out use zip ties or a g clamp, be warned it is a ball ache of a job.

petet16 31-08-13 06:55 PM

Just a thought, is there any fluid left in the system ?.

Jason04r 31-08-13 06:57 PM

Yea, some spilled out when it pop'd out but i can see the fluid in the bottom of the cylinder.

petet16 31-08-13 07:03 PM

if you take the cap off the master cylinder is there fluid in the reservoir.

Jason04r 31-08-13 07:10 PM

I'll take alook tomorrow as its under the fuse box.

If i have the pedal at the top then i see brake fluid in the slave and when its pushed down i see more fluid so i'm going to say yes there is a good amount of fluid in there

tcb 180 01-09-13 08:31 AM

As ever a very good thread with some excellent advice and technical know how. Enjoying this one lots.

redzed 01-09-13 09:23 AM

ive got a clutch system for sale if you need one

Jason04r 01-09-13 04:36 PM

So the bottles half full with fluid.

How am i going to put it back together without getting air into the system?

petet16 01-09-13 04:54 PM

You aren't going to be able to put it together without getting air in it, you will need to attempt to bleed it after re assembly, as I said the job is a pita.

As you still have fluid in the master cylinder I would fill the slave with enough fluid to refit the piston and rod without needing to compress the fluid, then operate the piston by hand to dislodge the air, any air should end up escaping from the system via the master cylinder.

Jason04r 02-09-13 07:44 PM

Got the gearbox this evening.

Bloody hard work getting just under 40 kg to sit proper by myself.

Am i total bell end or is the wrong gearbox? Various holes lead to nothing as seen in the pictures and also doesnt look like it matches up.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psb1958bba.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps9a715102.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps7f5e42b5.jpg

petet16 02-09-13 07:56 PM

That's definitely a pg1 box, what car did it come off ?.

Jason04r 02-09-13 08:15 PM

2001 Zs 180 . Got kv6 marked on it

Dan1971 02-09-13 08:19 PM

Now - I'm far from a guru, but, didn't your engine come from a 75 ? Don't they use a getrag gearbox ? Are they different ?

petet16 02-09-13 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 319385)
Now - I'm far from a guru, but, didn't your engine come from a 75 ? Don't they use a getrag gearbox ? Are they different ?

Good point.

Dan1971 02-09-13 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 319387)
Good point.

Holy shoite - have I just got something mechanical in the right ball park ... ?

petet16 02-09-13 08:37 PM

You have.

petet16 02-09-13 08:53 PM

Well, the zt and zs block castings are the same, so the pg1 box should fit.

Jason04r 02-09-13 09:09 PM

It does fit .. Just doesn't look correct. :/

tcb 180 03-09-13 07:07 AM

Well done that man ! Has he gone and bought the wrong box then?

Dan1971 03-09-13 07:29 AM

Got your pm and I'm at home for a bit this morning. I'll get some pics up.

Jason04r 03-09-13 07:44 AM

Thanks Dan.

I looked at the block which came with the car , looks the same mounting points but ill double check last night as i couldn't see much at night.

ZRed 03-09-13 08:31 AM

Block castings are the same. They use different gearboxes yes, but they also use different mounting holes. You have to remove the dowels from the engine and line them up with the gearbox ones. From the pics it looks like the dowels are clashing.

Jason04r 03-09-13 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZRed (Post 319446)
Block castings are the same. They use different gearboxes yes, but they also use different mounting holes. You have to remove the dowels from the engine and line them up with the gearbox ones. From the pics it looks like the dowels are clashing.

Shall take alook tonight.

Thanks bud

Jason04r 05-09-13 07:48 AM

So as Zred said , the dowels need to be removed and placed correctly. What i've read its not going to be an easy job getting them out without destroying them :/

Differences:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psbf50c631.jpg
Dowels are level with each other:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps049d2bda.jpg

Also i need some seals for the driveshafts, are these the ones to get?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

petet16 05-09-13 08:30 AM

I think these are the same as the ones you linked to
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGZS-MG-ZS...item4607b3f5b5

petet16 05-09-13 08:35 AM

Number 25 for new dowels http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID003326


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