matty has the extreme extreme spoiler on his mk2 hatch too

if your in the mob you can chuck people in a saloon boot and they cant escape...win

I nearly locked myself in the boot once when trying to connect navigation unit, I remember there was enough space for +1! Defo a win for gangsters and Ross Kemp would feel more comfortable as well :clap2:

Nothing worse than the half dead guy in the boot kicking a hole in your parcel shelf lol
saloon for the win :D

thats it then, saloon wins:P lolol

Saloons only win if your gary glitter...

Or alcapone:P

Have you not noticed with the saloon that the hinges take up a bit of the space at the sides... If your head was in the wrong place while you were laying in the boot and someone slammed the boot lid... you would be a half dead guy :p lol

I think its fair to say ive asked a question with no defiative answer. Bottom line is it depends on what you need from your Zed, personally i swear by my hatch but if i ever had to get a Saloon its fair to say i would love it just as much and deffend it to the death.

personally for me its the hatch which is better, and im not biased as i have 3 saloons and race saloons, but hatch feels more solid, a bit lighter, a bit tighter and just generally better.

Case closed

They should have made an estate, just to annoy people! :whistle:

No mate - it was closed on post 74!

An estate would have been great. A big missed opportunity for the HH-R range.

ermmm im talking about the orion vs escort, escort being hatch, orion being saloon (escort with a boot) y no orion rs turbo, or orion cosworth, ermm simple becoz the hatch, has less weight meanin quicker of the mark, better handling, same with the astra(hatch) belmont (saloon)= astra with a boot, the list goes on, the extreme spoiler looks like sumat outta the maccy d's club or for the people who wish they had a evo or subs, honda made the chassis and intendid it for a hatch, u dont see many ferrari's, lambo's, buggatis ect ect in saloon, hmmm i wounder y??? and as u say the saloon was made for touring cars, that dont mean zit, as far as i remember the proper touring cars and rally cars were hatch's, and dont mind me spelling coz ive had a few stella artois haha

Some cars looks better as hatch backs some look better as saloons
the Orion is a ugly car Ive seen mk5 wide arch orion (cossie style) and its minging.
also I dont see many ferrari's, lambo's, buggatis in 4 door hatch form either hmmm i wounder y???

Also you didnt really need to tell people youd had a few stella artois I think we could tell that from your post!


at the end of the day some people like the hatch some like the saloon some like the mk1s most like the mk2s lol Its good to have abit variety on the forum
adds to the banter as long as you dont have one to many stellas and get abit ranty :laugh:

haha to late for the to many stellas, but its my day of work 2mz, so im having a few lol, i was being abit of a tool when i dissed the big spoiler, coz deep down i want 1 for my zs, but ive always been a lover of hatch's, the saloon is a nice looking car but it aint for me, my ideal zs is the hatch with the face lift and the big batman lookin spoiler, but ill have to make do with mine haha:wacko:

I think you should just wack a big saloon spoiler on your hatch
looks very smart :)

i dont think they suit the mk1's tho unless they have had the face lift, and i have no idea how much that would cost to get a front and back bumper, boot and spoiler and front grille plus headlights, any1 got any ideas lol

just put a mk2 front end on it and the spoiler looks awesome on every zs

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...psa87e4916.jpg


:shutup:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg266...pg&res=landing
now that looks awesome I love a good tourer :D

From seeing the pic of the blue one I have to agree - but is it just a straight bolt-on or does it need modifying to fit?

Sorry but I deleted this photo from my post for copyright reason.

u can get them for the hatch as standerd, ive seen a few knocking about

there you go mate :) .copyright from who anyway?

Classic rally car......

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ud5aOkKE0U...L1580-8X15.jpg

Ferrari 456, a hatch?

http://www.performance-car-guide.co....rari-456-2.jpg

There aren't many hi-po sportscars with boots but there are less hatches.

and then i could put pics up of escort cossys, rs turbo's gte's, ect ect, but i dont know how 2 Grrrrrr:angry:

You have to modify the spoiler, Thought I did a thread on it here but cant seem to find it :hmmm:

;)

Show me a mk1 Escort hatch...............

who mentioned mk1's, i said rs turbo, cossy ect ect, dont think they were in mk1's:cylon:

because they where the top sellers and thats why they made the high power versions, a lot of people want a "hot hatch" because you can use it for any scenario loading washing machines in ect, but go up the next level to impreza, evo, m5 amg mercedies(excluding the new impreza) all saloons so that argument doesnt really stack up to me in regards of handling, cant really compare complete different manufacturers together and say that means that is the reason a car is quicker, like saying a escort handles better than an evo, completely different chassis ect

I think the reason that hatches get used in rallying is because there normally shorter and so you dont ave another 2 foot of car to clip a wall when your full on power sliding out of a corner :)

yer i get what your saying there m8, but going backwards, the chassis on the z's were initally a civic hatch, so y would u change sumat if it aint broke, granted the saloon looks more like a rover/mg, just thought when they were desining the chassis (honda) they make them to the best they can, then rover come along and slap a boot onit, so that makes me think in my opinion that the hatch is what its ment to be, where as the saloon is a added peice of boot at the back, making it heavier and more prone to fish tailing at high speed in the bends

also suberau are now in a hatch, and they have been there or there abouts in rallying for years, so y they choose the hatch and not stick with the saloon

not a lot of difference in weight tbh, and its not like its just been slapped on it has actually been designed...
dont think you can really just go off a hunch, you really need to go out and drive them both, my car doesnt fishtail about tbh

My old saloon handled just as well as my Hatch so handling wise I doubt there is much if anything in it.

I dont have this problem does any one else with a saloon?

also the 400/45/ZS was based on the honda Honda Domani not released in the uk which was also a saloon!! sooo :p

:smart:

when i said slapped on, i didnt mean 2 shadys in a back street garage, obvious its been designed for it, and yer i aint driven a saloon so dont really no what they handle like, but going from experiance, the longer the car the more prone to back end coming at the side of you and saying hello unless its a 4x4, i wanna drive a saloon now to feel what there like haha, i like the look of the saloon so dont think im dissing it, its just ive always been a hatch man, but thats just me, every man/women to there own:box: