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Skillen 07-05-13 08:11 AM

Found this:

Quote:

drdial
06-06-2009, 11:03
Nexa (ICI) have formulations for Rhodium interior.

Dark Rhodium 2003 - 2004 Code: MVP

Light Rhodium 2002 - 2004 Code: MVQ

This will only be info where they have matched the colour and used the last 3 letters of the part number (which indicate colour usually) as a code.Not a standard MGR available in all paints colour.
Not sure if we're light or dark
But apparently XPG is lighter than the trim.

petet16 07-05-13 08:18 AM

I sprayed a gear lever surround xpg, it's a pretty good match to the Technical Gray

talkingcars 07-05-13 10:26 AM

It's close if a bit more sparkly but that could have been the mixer.

And it's much nicer than the mk2 finish once lacquered.

Skillen 07-05-13 10:25 PM

Done myself a quick detail today pressure wash and a quick detailing spray.
Then had a little photo shoot haha.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps090ebc0f.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps656a2783.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psed2413d5.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps7b44b7b8.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps1d4e599d.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psf9f94ee5.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps197ea473.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psc57323bf.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps03d22a02.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psec118a4b.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psbd96c777.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps3ce80a28.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps2a3bf962.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps3474606c.jpg

Ok, so I lied, it was a big photoshoot!
But she looked good in the moody light.

M17TT180 07-05-13 11:20 PM

Looking good mate, now get that grill on!

Skillen 11-07-13 10:23 PM

So, since I had the prang resulting in a category c total loss being placed on the car for a broken bumper and light, I have been sourcing parts and goodies.

Sourced:
New steering wheel
Headlights
Headlamp washer bottle and jets
Replacement bumper in XPG (courtesy of Bren, big thanks to him)
Headlamp dimmer switch with headlamp washer switch in it from a civic.
Accord executive interior light with map lights.
Auto dimming rear view mirror from a ZT and got a smaller cowl for it from BMW for a fiver.
Rear parking sensor which the wiring is now worked out for but need spraying.
Heated windscreen is on order
Bonnet lifters are on their way
Sprayed the lower grill black and will do the upper grill and see what the mk1 grill is like on it.

And so the repair begins:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps3316cb4b.jpg
Stripped down the front (the washer bottle is also out now) found no underlying damage which is always nice.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps624675b0.jpg
Off with the old. Headlights will be forming a new project later in the year hopefully.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps09b9ebc3.jpg
Sprayed the grill black and now looks much neater than chipped grey!

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps4ea9bd7b.jpg
Transferred the gubbings over (need a right hand light washer elbow to fit that bit to the washer)

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps1d0d402b.jpg
Just about ready to go on.

It isn't perfect but it is a good base seeing as I'm thinking of getting it resprayed.

A few little things to sort out before refitting like polish the headlights up and spruce up the engine bay but I'm pleased it is back on track.

petet16 12-07-13 07:54 AM

Good work, but how annoying is it that so little damage results in it becoming cat C.

peterzs 12-07-13 08:37 AM

Crazy, hope the insurance has paid for all the upgrades.

:pirate2::pirate2::pirate2:

Skillen 12-07-13 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 313913)
Good work, but how annoying is it that so little damage results in it becoming cat C.

It's ridiculous. I argued for two weeks that it was ludicrous! But to no avail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterzs (Post 313919)
Crazy, hope the insurance has paid for all the upgrades.

:pirate2::pirate2::pirate2:

Well it covered the cost of the car ;)
So free car really! Lol!
Plenty more upgrades to come now.

Skillen 14-07-13 09:53 PM

So, I got the car back together today.

Cleaned the engine bay first off with all the front gubbins out of the way:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps127142b2.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps830451d8.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps263166ec.jpg

Got the new, less foggy headlights in, the new, very clean washer bottle with headlight washer pump on it and the crashbar back in.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psfc05d6e5.jpg
Also only got one bonnet lifter on there as the drivers side one snapped the bolt clean off! Still works well though.

Bumper is on and so the damage is repaired!
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps9b53ae33.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psdb7e397c.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psbd848c4d.jpg


While i hda the lights out I changed the dipped beam for some 5000k HID's some nice white LED sidelights, changed the main beams for some Halfords Extreme Brilliance bulbs and swapped the indicator bulbs for some silvery ones so no fried egg look.

Next plan is to spray the upper grill mesh black and maybe try the mk1 grill on it to see how that looks.

andys1981 14-07-13 10:17 PM

that is looking great mate,well done with getting it all sorted

stamford 15-07-13 07:04 AM

Nicely done :yes:

Craig-ZS180 15-07-13 07:55 AM

That has come on a long way now and is really benefitting from the time and effort your putting into it to get it back to how you want. Really looking great and its good to see another being made better again with a little oem+ loving.

Good job and look forward to seeing this more as you go :)

Skillen 16-07-13 10:48 PM

Okay, so these weren't a lot of peoples cups of tea but they have really grown on me over the last 24hrs.

Fitted my Superforma hubcentric spacers yesterday (coutesy of Thumpjunkie).
30mm to the rears and 20mm to the fronts.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...pse10f6bbf.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psf1f9383c.jpg

Really good quality and lightweight aluminum so hopefully wont add too much unsprung weight.


Some before and after pics now.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa6005c1e.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps8b86dafa.jpg


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psb046e4fe.jpg
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...pscd72fc88.jpg
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psd6da851c.jpg
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http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps6cbb55fc.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psf3976341.jpg

They dont actually poke that much tbh:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps2c679d3b.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psacfb26b6.jpg

The mcguard locking nut also snapped off :/
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa978e7c3.jpg

andys1981 16-07-13 10:55 PM

mcguard wheel nuts are a nightmare mate,best thing to do,if you can get the other part off,is get a candle melt it and push it into your wheel nut,thats how i had to get replacement ones,sent me the wrong one,they come from germany,looks good from side view though callum

Skillen 24-07-13 05:35 PM

I've ordered a full new set of wheel nuts as I'm sick of mine stripping and also fed up of the paint chipping around them so hopefully sorted something out with that regard.

Passed its mot today, one advisory (after changing the tyres) OSR brake pipe slightly corroded.

I'll clean it up and grease it and that'll be that.

Two decent front tyres which are no longer death trap ditch finders.
Continental Contisport Contact 5's apparently better than the contact 3's on the mk1 and they grip so well so can only have better experience which is good!
They better be for £119 a corner!

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...5-Launched.htm


So much better than the cheapo (@£57 a corner) autogrip ones the last owner put on it!
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Autogrip/F107.htm

MG ZS STE 24-07-13 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillen (Post 314517)
The mcguard locking nut also snapped off :/

They replaced mine under warranty, its lifetime.

Skillen 24-07-13 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG ZS STE (Post 315259)
They replaced mine under warranty, its lifetime.

Oh right, I don't have the receipts though nor the bits that broke off, nor the threaded body anymore haha!
I'll not be using them again anyway

MG ZS STE 24-07-13 06:04 PM

Ah, I didn't have the paperwork either as they were on the car when I got it but I did send the bits back. I reckon they may even accept your picture as proof.

redzed 24-07-13 09:05 PM

Looks good, you got to trim much off the inner arch? Rubbing issues? Get some more pics!

Skillen 24-07-13 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzed (Post 315293)
Looks good, you got to trim much off the inner arch? Rubbing issues? Get some more pics!

I've only had one rubbing issue on the OSR and that was coming to the bottom of a hill and accellerating away so not needed to trim anything yet.
In all honesty it's making me want more width on my tyres now too!

More pics will come I promise it's crying out for a good polish up and clay bar first though!

I tried a couple pics tonight but my phone is terrible at the light so you can't see the wheels properly underneath the car!

Skillen 24-07-13 09:42 PM

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psd0162fdc.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps023cfff2.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psa711c39d.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps6a496d20.jpg


Any good for ya Red?

B8sy 25-07-13 06:39 AM

Looks stunning skillen, only wish I had the knowledge to do things like this myself. Great job!

talkingcars 25-07-13 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B8sy (Post 315298)
Looks stunning skillen, only wish I had the knowledge to do things like this myself. Great job!

Most jobs like this aren't that difficult with a bit of knowledge and that is what we are here for.

Skillen 25-07-13 07:26 AM

Nope, not that much mechanical knowledge before taking on this stuff, just a good read up and a question here and there and then the realisation that you didn't need to ask the question because its obvious haha!
I'm just building up my knowledge and can sometimes offer advice now I've done stuff!
Just give it a go.

Enright 25-07-13 07:45 AM

That looks great - I'm particularly interested in the headlamp washer system.
The washer bottle, plumbing and jets look pretty straightforward, but what did you have to do to wire it up? Was a special loom required, or is there somewhere that it simply plugs in?

Skillen 25-07-13 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enright (Post 315305)
That looks great - I'm particularly interested in the headlamp washer system.
The washer bottle, plumbing and jets look pretty straightforward, but what did you have to do to wire it up? Was a special loom required, or is there somewhere that it simply plugs in?

I haven't wired it up yet but when I got the bottle and pumps I chopped off about 1m of wiring from the headlamp pump and ill get my brother and his electrical engineer-iness to help wire it up.
Some cars might have the wiring and the terminal for the relay.
Mine doesn't but doesn't matter to me as I'm running mine off a combined washer jet/dashlight dimmer switch.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...psac2a10c7.jpg

Enright 25-07-13 08:51 AM

Ah yes - I've got one of those dashlight dimmers from a Civic/Accord (can't remember which), but at the moment all it does is fills the RHS blanking plate! Looks OEM though.
I'm astonished at the number of wires coming out of the back of the thing, and if there is an option with the headlight wash too - as per your pic, then that will have even more!
I really enjoy adding these options (for peanuts) out of scrapyards. the ultimate one for me to do would be an electric tilt/slide sunroof. On a hatch it wouldn't be too difficult - especially as I need a new windscreen anyway. But enough of my thread hijacking. Thanks for the response, and as I say - looking good.

Skillen 25-07-13 09:05 AM

It's fine haha don't worry it's all discussion!

I had a dash dimmer only switch. And that had only 3 wires from the back making a dim function easy to wire.
When I picked up the washer button it had all these:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps0114e394.jpg

Shouldn't be too bad with a wiring diagram and some patience!

I'd like a sunroof for completeness. And the fact my light has one blank in it still and I have the button for it spare.
But they fail a lot on the ZR's so don't think it would be wort risking.
Probably need a full roof panel.

petet16 25-07-13 09:33 AM

The roof panel is a different pressing for sunroof cars, there was/is a guy selling a brand new oe sunroof assembly for reasonable money on ebay, the problem is modifying or replacing the existing roof panel.

Skillen 25-07-13 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 315313)
The roof panel is a different pressing for sunroof cars, there was/is a guy selling a brand new oe sunroof assembly for reasonable money on ebay, the problem is modifying or replacing the existing roof panel.

There we go! Denied! Haha!
Doubt ill find a sunroofed saloon in xpg. If I do then the challenge is getting it off. And sourcing a sunroof headlining and getting it all fitted.
Be nice to just dump heat out of really!

petet16 25-07-13 09:52 AM

£171 for a roof panel + pop rivets and sealant :crazy:

oops, forgot the link http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID003343

Enright 25-07-13 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillen (Post 315310)
It's fine haha don't worry it's all discussion!

I had a dash dimmer only switch. And that had only 3 wires from the back making a dim function easy to wire.
When I picked up the washer button it had all these:

Shouldn't be too bad with a wiring diagram and some patience!

I'd like a sunroof for completeness. And the fact my light has one blank in it still and I have the button for it spare.
But they fail a lot on the ZR's so don't think it would be wort risking.
Probably need a full roof panel.

Yep, that's what I remember - loads of wires and just about all of them red!!!
Looks like the Civics/Accords have the wiring all in place already, and you just plug in the swtiches and options to enable them.

Agreed, but then ZR's are a league apart in quality. I've had a look at a few older R400's, 45's & ZS's in scrappies - none of them seem to be rotting around the edges like the ZR's habitually do.

You definitely would need a full roof panel though - the structure is completely different. There’s less strengthening in it, while instead it has all the mountings for the sunroof mechanism.

The wiring goes up the driver's A-pillar, and there are drains in each corner. But once you had those out of the way, you could just unbolt the tailgate from the donor car, smash the windscreen out of the way, cut through the A, B and C pillars, then take it, headlining and all. I was quoted £40 for the roof panel and may even be able to get it cheaper than that. Nobody would normally (be daft enough to) touch them so it’s bonus income for any scrapyard.

After that the remains of the pillars and side panels just need to be ground off, so that you just have 2 straight, flat weld faces from front to rear. These are the ones normally found under the trim strips on the roof.

You could even get the replacement panel sprayed at this point because the only unsightly bit could be touched-up later and hidden by the trim strips.

Then in theory it’s just a “simple” matter of cutting the original roof panel out, cleaning it back to the same 2 weld lines, and welding the new one in place, possibly using the windscreen as a flat surface to gauge the correct position.

The worry could come when the old roof panel was removed. As it’s part of the monocoque the entire car could sag in the middle!!! :excl:

So now you know why it was a £525 optional extra. But if you budget £100 for spraying and “mate’s rates” for a bit of welding, you could do the entire upgrade for £200. :whistle:

Skillen 25-07-13 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 315317)
£171 for a roof panel + pop rivets and sealant :crazy:

oops, forgot the link http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID003343

I was just looking at those on rimmers myself and just came to report back!

Is the crazy smiley crazy cheap or crazy expensive? Haha!

My roofs lacquer is peeling badly so needs a respray anyway! Plus the windscreen will be coming out for a heated screen too.
Wonder how much the sunroof mech is!

I need to slow down on my mods though I get carried away and fire through things quickly when the funds are there!

The brembodge is the most tempting lately and keeping an eye out for a LSD.

Sunroof can be a future mod when things start slowing and in looking for more ways to further the car

petet16 25-07-13 10:59 AM

lol, the crazy was for fitting the roof with pop rivets.

The heated screen is a top mod, well worth doing imo, although a bit spendy £££, Brembos, another good mod, torsen is worth doing, I'd put the torsen well ahead of the Brembo's though.

petet16 25-07-13 11:08 AM

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-M...item519bc9b7aa

Skillen 25-07-13 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 315321)
lol, the crazy was for fitting the roof with pop rivets.

The heated screen is a top mod, well worth doing imo, although a bit spendy £££, Brembos, another good mod, torsen is worth doing, I'd put the torsen well ahead of the Brembo's though.

Ahh right! Haha yeah it'd be welded.

Yeah just waiting on the delivery of it then ill take it to a body shop to get the roof done as there is a rust bubble on the leading edge so will need the top window trim off to repair that I expect so it can go in then.

I know the Torsen would be good but the group buy is going on now so don't wanna miss out.

And tbh I'd want to get a lightweight fly and a new clutch and a sheddist all going on at the same time so I think I'll take it slow and get those pieces together and maybe pay Goldie a visit with a nice trip up to Scotland.

Skillen 25-07-13 11:15 AM

Ahh man that's a good sunroof price considering I bought brand new glass for my ZR's and it cost £150!

petet16 25-07-13 11:28 AM

He's had it forever, so might be open to offers

Skillen 31-07-13 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzed (Post 315293)
Looks good, you got to trim much off the inner arch? Rubbing issues? Get some more pics!

Now I've had it mot'd and got chance to use it properly on the road I've noticed some rubbing issues.

Firstly glad to say that speed bumps have been fine with no rubbing at a normal speed.

The main running problem is dips in the road.
Mostly at speeds over 40mph any dip that causes the suspension to compress scrubs the wheels.

Now thankfully it's only been a few times on the way to work but back roads in Cumbria, while fun, aren't the best kept!

What's the best way to remedy this rubbing?
Tbh I am wanting it lowered too but this will obviously exacerbate things.

What have the people with the 8 and 9j wheels done?


Also got a brand new primed front grill for spraying and I'll then get to modifying the original to take the bars out at a later date.


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