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Dan1971 06-12-12 06:12 AM

Worst presented Mk2 180 advert ever .. ?
 
What a shame .... £10 with the eastern Europeans would have made all the difference. Bargain hunters get your money out though ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mg-zs-180-...item337e509bf1

stamford 06-12-12 07:08 AM

Yea I saw that yesterday, no effort put in at all.

Enright 06-12-12 07:49 AM

Firefrost, alcantara, black oak facia inserts - a few hours of elbow grease and that will make a really nice car for someone.
Only thing it's got going against it is it's a saloon! (Sorry, couldn't resist the opportunity to claw one back) ;)

littlened 06-12-12 07:59 AM

Looks a bit grubby and un-loved to me.

Could of at least cleaned it, stuck some new car mats in and hoovered in the interior, would of made all the difference.

Smokey 06-12-12 08:20 AM

Think a few further questions need answered too but doubt they will know (ie. belts)

Ippon 06-12-12 08:41 AM

I've mailed the seller with a number of Qs ..... will calll later today ..... bit worried about the dints on roof statement tho ...
Anyone on here bidding?

hi there
mot ends feb but can mot at buyers cost of test. tax end of feb. yes registered to me. had it about a year. had discs pads tyres etc. No history as i lost the book when i moved house it did have partial history up to 56k. dont know on cambelt front im afraid, as anything like that would have been in the handbook etc that ive lost
car is as far as im aware a standard car. no problems im aware of my misses used this as her car and never mentioned any problems

cheers
marc

ZS 06-12-12 09:06 AM

Personally I would start off with a bid of £500 explaining that the main dealers charge £950 (thats what Seaward MGRover want to charge me) for just the cambelt change and you would have to get that done first as you don't know the history.

Of course if you do or do not get the belts done is up to you... just tell the seller that :)

Oh and you could ask what the reserve is, give you an idea what he is expecting?

Also.. .if there are "very minor dinks in the roof" why are there no pictures of the roof to show how "Minor" they are?

Dan1971 06-12-12 09:10 AM

I wouldn't worry about dents on the roof .... He says they are small - you'd best check as his small and yours will vary. Dent guy will pull them for £50.

If you can get that for £850 - £1000 a "Steve's clean" would get it looking A1. Then you're looking at a full service. So £1200 ish and your there. Everything else - belts, clutch, plenum, vis motors are just things that play up/need addressing on every 180 ....

It's a nice colour, got alcantara, so go have a butchers ....

Ippon 06-12-12 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 285797)
Everything else - belts, clutch, plenum, vis motors are just things that play up/need addressing on every 180 ....

It's a nice colour, got alcantara, so go have a butchers ....

Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

Smokey 06-12-12 09:38 AM

It's a risk but you may be lucky!

ZS 06-12-12 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ippon (Post 285806)
Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

I'm Risking it every day with my MK2 180... AFAIK the belts have never been done... Trouble is its so expensive to change the belts on these things when the car is so cheap... some say if their belts go they will just replace the engine, for cheaper than the belt change would cost! (Or buy a new car)

littlened 06-12-12 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokey (Post 285809)
It's a risk but you may be lucky!

Also depends how handy you are, it is possible to change the belts yourself. It's time consuming, and you have to be pretty methodical, but it's possible.

Smokey 06-12-12 09:52 AM

Better spending the £400 and having no worries that buying a new car all the time imo!

Dan1971 06-12-12 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ippon (Post 285806)
Would you buy the car but not do the belts? Doesn't this risk complete engine failure?

I'm afraid I'm one of those guys that gets a car and sells it on soon after ... I've never had a car that needed them doing.

My current one has a receipt for them being done a few years ago, so I'm not gonna do it again. Fact is that you can get a whole replacement engine for £200-£300 but I accept that it would need to get fitted, be off the road, inconvenient blah de blah...

Unless I was on starship mileage or running one of the very first Mk1s that I wanted to keep for ever and ever .... I'd be risking it personally.

Ippon 06-12-12 10:23 AM

When a belt "goes" ...what happens - big bang, or slowly reduced prformance? .... and if big bang, what are the consequences if you're traveling @ 70 mph for example

littlened 06-12-12 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ippon (Post 285828)
When a belt "goes" ...what happens - big bang, or slowly reduced prformance? .... and if big bang, what are the consequences if you're traveling @ 70 mph for example

Bang, no warning, bent/snapped valves, possible hole in the piston.

Ippon 06-12-12 10:36 AM

go on then .... on a 80K car 8YO car .... how likely?

ZS 06-12-12 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlened (Post 285830)
Bang, no warning, bent/snapped valves, possible hole in the piston.

And sudden frozen engine? I.E. possibility of an accident being caused? - unless you dip the clutch of course....

littlened 06-12-12 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ippon (Post 285834)
go on then .... on a 80K car 8YO car .... how likely?

There's just no way of telling I don't think. Could last another 50k, could last 500 mile.

Ricwin 06-12-12 02:38 PM

Belt snaps at 70, thats one dead engine.
Friend of mine had a similar issue going uphill in 2nd gear. Cambelt tensioner failed on his VVC, ruined the whole engine. Holes in pistons was one small problem :|

Steven11 06-12-12 02:57 PM

Come on lads, there's nothing like a good game of cambelt Roulette, ive been playing it for the last 3 years. My 180 is 7 Years old with 75000 miles and the original belts.

I have faith she wont let me down :smile1:

stamford 06-12-12 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven11 (Post 285897)
Come on lads, there's nothing like a good game of cambelt Roulette, ive been playing it for the last 3 years. My 180 is 7 Years old with 75000 miles and the original belts.

I have faith she wont let me down :smile1:

You know you shouldn't be saying that! :whistle:

Mine were overdue when done and the belts were showing signs of ripeness.

Steven11 06-12-12 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 285900)
You know you shouldn't be saying that! :whistle:

Mine were overdue when done and the belts were showing signs of ripeness.

Think i may be tempting fait :shifty:

littlened 06-12-12 03:38 PM

It's easy enough to have a quick look at your belts and look for signs of wear or cracks, although this doesn't rule out the belt won't go, it can give you an indication if there's any damage to the belt, from say a knackered tensioner.

AlastairRushforth 10-12-12 01:07 PM

I've just replaced 2 heads on my brothers ZT190. Tension pulley started rumbling on his way out of work (long drive way so max of 15mph) and twang....

Result was 6 bent exhaust valves on the rear (bulkhead side) head.

I'm tempted by this car though (depending on size of dents) as my TY mk1 is almost certainly being replaced (not by choice)

talkingcars 10-12-12 05:48 PM

I'm biding on this, up to £670 and still not cleared the reserve.

littlened 10-12-12 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 286529)
I'm biding on this, up to £670 and still not cleared the reserve.

I bet his reserve is about £1200

MG ZS STE 10-12-12 07:35 PM

Worth it for a wine red metallic late ZS. Never seen that colour in the monogram range before.

Lukeus101 10-12-12 08:58 PM

Firefrost wasnt on the monogram scheme :)

Ippon 10-12-12 10:25 PM

Don't think I'm going to bid ..... suspect it will take £1200 to win bid, then at least £1000 to cam belt/roof/door handle/wheels/fogs plus time effort to sort leak .... compare that with Jay's £1200 mk2 sold last week ... everything done .... boy I'm begining to bitterly regret being too slow out of the blocks on that one :(

talkingcars 11-12-12 05:07 AM

You are not the only one, I regret dealing with him on here and not facebook but his car was well under it's true value.

AlastairRushforth 11-12-12 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ippon (Post 286578)
Don't think I'm going to bid ..... suspect it will take £1200 to win bid, then at least £1000 to cam belt/roof/door handle/wheels/fogs plus time effort to sort leak .... compare that with Jay's £1200 mk2 sold last week ... everything done .... boy I'm begining to bitterly regret being too slow out of the blocks on that one :(

Door handle? Fogs? Leak?

I see no mention of those faults in the ad.

petet16 11-12-12 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlastairRushforth (Post 286591)
Door handle? Fogs? Leak?

I see no mention of those faults in the ad.

Someone went to look at it I believe, and found the unmentioned faults.

Here.http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=23640

Ippon 11-12-12 09:23 AM

What do we think it will sell for?
Do we think it will be bought blind?

AlastairRushforth 11-12-12 09:24 AM

Ah got ya.

We talking coolant leak or water ingress?

AlastairRushforth 11-12-12 09:33 AM

Just followed the link to the chap that viewed it. Turns out I know Marc from when I raced minis. Have spoken with his dad just now & Marc will be calling me later so I'll see what I can find out.

littlened 11-12-12 09:48 AM

Looks like the price has gone over the reserve.

Dan1971 11-12-12 09:57 AM

£1057 ....

littlened 11-12-12 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 286615)
£1057 ....

I reckon 1200

Would still be a decent price to say some are going for £1800. There's even one up for almost £3k.

petet16 11-12-12 10:10 AM

I reckon £1000, it'll be a decent buy as a bit of time and money will have it looking good again.


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