Non starter
 

Tried to start the car this morning and it wouldn't. All dash lights came on and all other lights worked but no engine.

Got home from work and tried again and it fired first time.

It was very cold this morning it was reading -5 in Mrs Welshones 307.

So my question is what could freeze to stop the car from starting?????

Did it turn over, or did you get the solenoid clicking.

got nothing just the lights on the dash. Did hear the fuel pump prime.

Check the small spade connector on the starter motor, probably a bad contact.

Cheers
Dave

Mine too yesterday .... Went to take it out just to give it a run. Haven't driven it for a couple of weeks and when I have done, it's just been for a couple of miles. This was after some snow and a couple of very cold nights ...

Click click click ..... Starter or battery ? Read up on it a bit yesterday and I'm hoping that the battery is flat and the clicking is the starter trying, but the battery doesn't have the power to turn the crank .... or so it said .... I have noticed that it was a little slower turning over the last few times ....

Most likely the starter solenoid spade connection, if the battery was dying then it wouldn't have started later in the day.

Dan, it could well be the battery for you as this cold weather will show up batteries that are on their last legs. Give it an overnight charge so it is full, then see how this fares over the coming weeks, if it drops again then it'll need changing.

I would go with Mick and say battery failing. They really dont deal with the cold that well!

Next week will be the tester! Apparently we on the south coast are looking at a cold snap of temperatures around -15 Degrees Centigrade next week! I'd hate to see how cold the people up north are going to get...

Ta ... Ain't got a charger and they are £25 in Halfords. Just had a butchers on the bay of E and a new battery with 4 yr guarantee - plenty for me ;) - is only £45. I can see where this is going already .... Jump start this morning when it stops raining to see if it's the battery, then an order later if it is. Cheers ..... And sorry for the hijack .....

I'll preempt the which battery questions www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=23020&highlight=battery

Cheers - was going for this one - free next day delivery. Not a fancy name, but power is power isn't it ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2511887973...84.m1423.l2649

Personally I'd take the bosch. At least you can take it back without a problem should you need to. Free next day delivery too.

Seriously ... ? Fair enough. Where do I get that discount code ?

OK back to this one. It's a complete none starter now. I've cleaned the connections as advised, I've fully charged the battery and still nothing and i've tried jump leads and still no joy.

All the electrics seem to work but when tried to start there is just nothing from the engine. Any more help would be very much appreciated before I go spending money I haven't really got on items such as the starter motor or ignition barrel.

I must add there where no fault codes found on a scan.

Reader on it to see if any faults logged up???

Crank/cam sensor??

Plenty of fuel??

Earth to the slam panel and to the gearbox OK??

Is the engine spinning over, or wont it even do that?? If it does spin is it quick or slow??

Sounds very much like the starter to me. Mine was working fine and then suddenly nothing, when you turned the key the headlights didn't dim as they should when the starter draws current. RAC came out and push started the car to get me home, next morning it struggled but did fire up so I took the car to the garage, they replaced the starter and it's been fine ever since.

I did notice it was turning better with the new starter.

Try the headlight test on your's to see if it's the starter and jump leads direct to the starter should turn it if the ignition is at fault.

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Yep did the headlight test and no dimness to them.

So hopefully sounds like the starter then :)

Whip it out and see if it spins with jump leads on the terminals.

I know a man who works in the parts business, he may be able to get one at a good price.

Sounds like the starter motor.

Might be worth getting it off and testing it.

Someone on here posted up new ones that looked a good price.

This one
http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=23757

Thanks guys, it's a bit wet out there at the mount but when it gets a little less wet i'll give it a bash. luckily i've got the Mrs Welshone's car spare to use for the next two weeks for work so no major rush at the moment But sooner the better as for the past few days i've been driving around in a pug 307 and a vauxhall agila (or ugila as i like to call it lol) and it's getting a bit depressing lol

Thanks for the link :)

Ok back to this lovely problem :/


Just took off the starter and jump leaded it to my battery and to all worked as it should. Motor worked and it popped out like it should.

Put it back on and still no start :(.

I'm going to put a starter button in now at the ignition barrel see if i have a dodgy ignition barrel.

Anymore suggestions of what to check would be great :)

Is it turning but not catching, or doing nothing at all ?

Doing nothing :(

Have you tried using a spare jump lead to earth the engine to the body ?

I'll give that a go now :)

Update::

Just tried and still no joy :(

Clueless mate .... sorry.

Have you had the AA or similar out ?

Another possibility is the starter relay in the engine bay fuse box.

Haynes manual says -

• battery terminal connections loose or corroded
• battery discharged or faulty
• broken loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circuit
• defective starter solenoid or switch
• defective starter motor
• starter pinion or flywheel ring gear teeth loose or broken
• engine earth strap broken or disconnected

Checked them, all ok

[*]battery terminal connections loose or corroded

Cleaned and reconnected
[*]battery discharged or faulty

Tried jumping it from another car with no luck.
[*]broken loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circuit

This is my thought but where I have no idea :(
[*]defective starter solenoid or switch

Works when connected direct to battery
[*]defective starter motor

Works when connected direct to battery
[*]starter pinion or flywheel ring gear teeth loose or broken

Could be but how do I check?
[*]engine earth strap broken or disconnected

Checked and cleaned and used jump lead as suggested.


Now it's raining again and back to the drawing board me thinks lol

I think the solenoid on the starter motor may be goosed.

Solenoid works straight from battery.

Still no joy with this. Anymore ideas ???

You put a new battery in the key fob. (bit of grasping at straws).

Tried my both fobs both unlock and lock car but nothing at position 3 on ignition

For a couple of quid, I'd try a new battery!!

As everything else seems to have been exhausted, the ignition switch would be another possibility.