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tb steve 03-11-11 08:44 PM

were back LOL throttle body zs
 
just a little tease

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlmhaIY93U8

Supercharged_Z 03-11-11 08:57 PM

2-7k rpm in seconds? er.... what a project

Ritchy 03-11-11 09:52 PM

that sound evil haha, whens test day?

Drew 04-11-11 05:24 AM

sounds good.

Drew

stamford 04-11-11 07:17 AM

Looks and sounds like a caged animal bursting to get out!

tb steve 04-11-11 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercharged_Z (Post 227670)
2-7k rpm in seconds? er.... what a project

i bet you wished you had a grey zs now :whistle:

cheers all we are getting there (well G is LOL)

Alan.F 04-11-11 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tb steve (Post 227737)
i bet you wished you had a grey zs now :whistle:

cheers all we are getting there (well G is LOL)



LOL looks awesome Ste

tb steve 04-11-11 01:58 PM

cheers alan

i here you wont a go in it

Drew 04-11-11 03:33 PM

try and get a proper mounting for the ecu.

Drew

MG6Turbo 04-11-11 03:49 PM

Its not finished yet, awaiting some parts from WSR however, Mr Bennets is in Shanghi so wont be this week.

G

Alan.F 04-11-11 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tb steve (Post 227746)
cheers alan

i here you wont a go in it

Deffo m8 but only after you have driven it

Drew 04-11-11 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovermgparts (Post 227754)
Its not finished yet, awaiting some parts from WSR however, Mr Bennets is in Shanghi so wont be this week.

G

i was saying to steve he needs a mounting for the ecu sorted, something for him to look out for.

Drew

Drew 04-11-11 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tb steve (Post 227737)
i bet you wished you had a grey zs now :whistle:

obviously the best colour ;)

you going battery to boot? give you some space for the inlet pipe.

Drew

MG6Turbo 05-11-11 07:25 AM

Got a slim battery for under the hood.

Hows your zs projects going Drew?

G

Supercharged_Z 05-11-11 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tb steve (Post 227737)
i bet you wished you had a grey zs now :whistle:

cheers all we are getting there (well G is LOL)

Yeah I do like grey, but I'm more of a hatch man myself

Drew 05-11-11 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovermgparts (Post 227802)
Got a slim battery for under the hood.

Hows your zs projects going Drew?

G

very well.

Drew

mattie007 05-11-11 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rovermgparts (Post 227754)
Its not finished yet, awaiting some parts from WSR however, Mr Bennets is in Shanghi so wont be this week.

G

Talking to MG or on holiday?

ZS Phil 05-11-11 06:42 PM

What are the throttle bodies off? I remember reading about a throttle bodied v6 years age, is this the same one? Looks bloody awesome!

MG6Turbo 05-11-11 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattie007 (Post 227852)
Talking to MG or on holiday?

Hes running a car in WTCC there.

Mr Bennetts definitely wont be talking with MG again..

G

MG6Turbo 05-11-11 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZS Phil (Post 227877)
What are the throttle bodies off? I remember reading about a throttle bodied v6 years age, is this the same one? Looks bloody awesome!


They are from the WSR v6 touring zs.

This project was started in late 2009. But there were many issues which hindered its progress which doesnt need to be brought up again.

Im sure Steve will post the final results shortly.

G

Quadcam24 18-02-12 09:07 PM

any updates ?

MG6Turbo 18-02-12 09:15 PM

Only to say the cam belts have been changed before it gets a hammering on the rolling road shortly.

G

Quadcam24 19-02-12 05:11 PM

good to hear , when are the rollers booked for ?...cant wait to see the graphs.

Eddie 09-03-12 02:19 PM

I'm curious to know how this is running?
That's an airbox which replaces the OE inlet manifold, still looks to be running on the stock 180 throttle body so not an ITB set-up per say.

Quadcam24 09-03-12 06:43 PM

interesting point, its basically a plenum with no vis....which kind of makes you think it will lose all its torque...but still a great project and it will be very interesting to see the reality of the roller graph. Will answer a lot of questions.

Drew 09-03-12 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie (Post 241810)
I'm curious to know how this is running?
That's an airbox which replaces the OE inlet manifold, still looks to be running on the stock 180 throttle body so not an ITB set-up per say.

some pics off xpf..

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1221/wsr3.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4347/wsr1.jpg

single throttle body into a plenum.

Drew

tb steve 09-03-12 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie (Post 241810)
I'm curious to know how this is running?
That's an airbox which replaces the OE inlet manifold, still looks to be running on the stock 180 throttle body so not an ITB set-up per say.

i never said it was itb or did i ?? thread was throttle body zs
we have tryed a zr and a zs TB and we have been told theres no or little difference between the two and may be going for a TOCA TB 60mm but will have to see

tb steve 09-03-12 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quadcam24 (Post 241861)
interesting point, its basically a plenum with no vis....which kind of makes you think it will lose all its torque...but still a great project and it will be very interesting to see the reality of the roller graph. Will answer a lot of questions.

think it might lose a bit a torque but may gain this back due to the way it picks up the rev range
the magic graph shows all :)

Quadcam24 09-03-12 09:16 PM

yes i agree, might lose low down but if you gain some back up the top then grins all round :yes:
is the need of a correctly fitting throttle body holding it up then, it seemed to be running ok in them old videos :question:
I cant see a bigger throttle body helping it to make more power tbh but you never know till you try.
Hope your soon enjoying it anyway.

Drew 10-03-12 03:51 PM

whats the size of the inlet on the plenum?

Drew

tb steve 10-03-12 06:05 PM

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not sure drew

i think there are two options on the neck ???

Drew 10-03-12 07:25 PM

ahh nice, hadnt seen the extendy piece before. you thought about doing a 90dgr to replace that, might make fitting the TB easier?

Quote:

we have tryed a zr and a zs TB and we have been told theres no or little difference between the two
i just measured my zs TB at 55mm but its fookin long. if you cant fit that in id look at a T series TB @56mm.

toca tb sounds good but tbh its more money for little gain imo.

Drew

Quadcam24 10-03-12 08:03 PM

yeah looks good are you looking to pipe a cone down into the inner wing?

Drew 10-03-12 08:25 PM

it looks like the strut tower gets in the way, as well as the dta.

Drew

tb steve 10-03-12 09:39 PM

will let G play with it and see what would be best for it anyway
the TOCA tb was not that much good price i thought thats if we get it but thats anther option if others dont work out as well

p.s i dont think the DTA will get in the way just a rough fitting

tb steve 10-03-12 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quadcam24 (Post 241983)
yeah looks good are you looking to pipe a cone down into the inner wing?

i know what G was going for but is a bit pricey

Drew 11-03-12 05:47 AM

you cant leave the filter in the engine bay, piping it to the inner wing is £50 at the most.

Drew

talkingcars 11-03-12 06:17 AM

The shortest route to the inner wing would be to the gap between the chassis rail and the inner wing under where the battery normally lives. You'd struggle to get an enclosed filter in there in a direct run but you could fit an open cone just the otherside of the hole, just watch out for deep puddles.

tb steve 11-03-12 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew (Post 242067)
you cant leave the filter in the engine bay, piping it to the inner wing is £50 at the most.

Drew

no not in the engine bay that would be silly

Eddie 14-03-12 10:53 AM

Maybe look at something like the ZT V8 70mm TB, have a simple adaptor plate made up.
If it's running DTA I've seen a KV6 with the VIS system de-activated and the flaps locked open, in fact I think Drew has the car now. It made very good low end torque even with all the stock inlet and it's flaps still in place, so with DTA you can map the torque curve.
I think with the increased flow from the inlet the the stock cams and valve train will be the limiting factor, to make the most of the new arrangement it would benefit from a compression hike and some nice cams.

What size exhaust manifold and secondaries are you going to run?


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