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Supercharged_Z 01-12-12 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkerDnB (Post 284982)
well the T16 produces more power than the 180 and has more potential
If your willing to spend money on a super charger then a t16 is the way to go imo


What your ignoring is the age of this engine.

I will give you some facts.

A friend ran a std nasp Zs up santa pod and did consistent 14.9 quarter miles.

I took a nasp zs up the strip with reduced weight and ran a 14.3

I ran a striped zs out with 210 hp and ran a 13.7

I ran a striped (lighter than the nasp) supercharged zs up the strip many times and managed to get 13.5 after 3 years. (260BHP!!)

go and look for a T16 up the strip. Honestly Power is not everything and I know pub talk means a lot to people but a decent 200bhp KV6 will see off a 250bhp T16 every day.


So the T16 can be pushed to 300bhp? I wouldn't bother the cost and benefit if any outweigh the cost. you end up needing serious chassis development, brake developmentand so on. Fact is (me included) the ZS in KV6 form is still very track agile and I doubt many of us could push it beyond its limitations in the right circumstances (115mph down craners on road tyres for example!!!)

I have witnessed so much pure ***** in my time with these cars (03 onwards)

Honestly a T16 is well passed it. do the right mods to a KV6 and say goodbye.

Ross

edit for what its worth I have owned all of the above cars.

180BHP ZS NASP

190BHP ZS NASP

230 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

260 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

210 BHP ZS NASP (CAMS ETC) X 2

Many T16 cars

Supercharged_Z 01-12-12 11:56 PM

I was told something a few years ago and at the time i ignored it. infact the owner probably realized himself he pushed the ZS chassis to the max.

power is nothing without control

i.e power is not everything, even in a straight line the chassis has a lot to do with the power it puts down

WalkerDnB 01-12-12 11:58 PM

Im only going on what Ive experienced and that a few seriously fast fast T16's
Have to admit though the 180 has surprised me with just how fast it is
It seems to keep up with cars it really shouldn't
had a little play with a clio 197 (on a private road of course) it had nothing on the 180 just couldn't keep up :D
my car has a few mild mods

buff-1 02-12-12 12:01 AM

id love to contact sprintex see if they would make an order for them lol probly not, but this thread will end up about T16 V 180s/ superchargered ones lol

Supercharged_Z 02-12-12 12:03 AM

for the posts reference 250 burning St's etc

A focus ST weighs how much?

A T16 car weight how much?

Honestly this engine is past it, a 250 bhp car that weighs a tonne does not breeze past another 250bhp car that weighs a tonne. There is a reason for it.

For anybody reading this thread and you have a 250 BHP T16 I would put my 210 bhp KV6 up against it at the strip and a track day all day everyday if you like?

Honestly stick with a kv6

Supercharged_Z 02-12-12 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalkerDnB (Post 284994)
Im only going on what Ive experienced and that a few seriously fast fast T16's
Have to admit though the 180 has surprised me with just how fast it is
It seems to keep up with cars it really shouldn't
had a little play with a clio 197 (on a private road of course) it had nothing on the 180 just couldn't keep up :D
my car has a few mild mods

I have experienced 300bhp T16 cars which would out run a ZS 180 for sure but it will not put the power down as you wish, it will rip the chassis to bits, it will break down, and will be very old. All this against a stage one 200bhp ZS? is it worth it?

Dave_V6 for me did everything that was needed for a ZS. Showed that in modified form it ran for years and years without major issue at 210BHP.

Stuck a 300bhp Audi engine in there and it broke down each track day, coil packs, water pump, overheated brakes, turbo problems.
I saw it all.

Anyway that's my opinion but I based it on facts over the past 8 years.

WalkerDnB 02-12-12 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supercharged_Z (Post 284996)
For anybody reading this thread and you have a 250 BHP T16 I would put my 210 bhp KV6 up against it at the strip and a track day all day everyday if you like?

Thats a challenge that should be posted on rovertech :p

Im not going to argue with you
Ive never personally owned a t16 just had mates that have and never seen a supercharged kv6 so you know more than me

Supercharged_Z 02-12-12 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by buff-1 (Post 284995)
id love to contact sprintex see if they would make an order for them lol probly not, but this thread will end up about T16 V 180s/ superchargered ones lol

The charger unit from OPCON is NLA

Opcon made the screw unit and supplied sprintex, it was one of there smallest units anyway they stoped making these around 4 years ago....

Plus as mentioned before. Very little point.

Supercharged_Z 02-12-12 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalkerDnB (Post 284998)
Thats a challenge that should be posted on rovertech :p

Im not going to argue with you
Ive never personally owned a t16 just had mates that have and never seen a supercharged kv6 so you know more than me

Thing is i dont need a challenge. Without sounding bigheaded. I have been there and done it. look at quarter mile times of a 250bhp T16 for example.

Il say it again

Power is nothing without control

Drew 02-12-12 12:14 AM

i could sell you my charger, but not my car. i still have a few things to try though.

whats with the T16 bashing. you know it was released after the K4!

Drew


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