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JOHNDQ 01-06-19 10:14 PM

New MK2 ZS 180 saloon
 
Finally picked up a Saloon today with the plan to replace my 120 hatch with. Brought it off another forum member who as had the car since 2005 and she has covered only 57,000 miles. Ive took a bit of a risk with it since the key and fob has been lost but for £300 i thought its worth that in parts alone. I took the SCU, FOB and Steering column from my 120 just so could get the car steerable, unlocked and to get the alarm switched off but to get into the car had to knock in the drivers rear window. Ive ordered another FOB, SCU and ECU from Ebay so until then i wont have much to update you all on....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...be604532_b.jpgIMG_20190601_163842 by John Quincey, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d5ab46bb_b.jpgIMG_20190601_204341~2 by John Quincey, on Flickr
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e3c4aefc_b.jpgIMG_20190601_164610~2 by John Quincey, on Flickr
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talkingcars 01-06-19 11:24 PM

£300 for a good looking example on 57k, you done well my lad.

JOHNDQ 01-06-19 11:42 PM

Thanks :)

stamford 02-06-19 07:47 AM

Could be a steal. Looks honest enough and in good condition compared to some I’ve seen.

JOHNDQ 02-06-19 07:56 AM

I'm hoping so had good look over it no surprises yet touch wood, had engine cranking over doesn't seem to be any funny noises etc. Once the ECU kit gets here if it runs will MOT it see and go from there :)

David Sayer 02-06-19 10:12 AM

It's criminal that these are going this cheap. The saving grace it's going to someone who cares for the things. Throw £2-3k at it and it's going to be something special.

JOHNDQ 02-06-19 11:05 AM

Won't be sending to much on this one just going to get it up and running and do the cam belts, service ect. To be honest I think it's a bit to clean and tidy for me to use as a family run about :no:

David Sayer 02-06-19 11:48 AM

Good your keeping on road, it's all too easy for good cars to be scrapped these days but I think our generation will come to regret the current situation when there's none left in 10-20 years time to enjoy.

JOHNDQ 02-06-19 12:20 PM

Agree is a shame, the guy who owned it was saying of wasn't gone by this weekend was going to scrap

talkingcars 02-06-19 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sayer (Post 379473)
Good your keeping on road, it's all too easy for good cars to be scrapped these days but I think our generation will come to regret the current situation when there's none left in 10-20 years time to enjoy.

No different to any car, when did you last see a Ford Corsair or a Peugeot 104 or a Vauxhall Cavalier or an Alfa 33 - all cars that have been in my family that I haven't seen on the road in a very long time. TBF I wouldn't care if I did see the Pug or the cav again but the Corsair was good and I'd have another 33 tomorrow.

Dan1971 03-06-19 01:04 PM

That's a steal mate. Well done... What interior does it have?

Interesting that the seller was desperate to get rid and was gonna scrap it, but there was nothing on here and I dare say that he or she would've got a few quid more, or even a helping hand getting it sorted out. Where was it advertised?

JOHNDQ 03-06-19 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 379481)
That's a steal mate. Well done... What interior does it have?

Interesting that the seller was desperate to get rid and was gonna scrap it, but there was nothing on here and I dare say that he or she would've got a few quid more, or even a helping hand getting it sorted out. Where was it advertised?

X power forum guy said it's been like that four about 3 months and in the underground car park under the flats where the car was he only had one parking place will see what happens when the ECU kit gets here, I've had it pranking don't seem to be no funny noises etc from the engine. I did go through his previous posts on forum and other than the clutch slave cylinder failure that's the only problem I found he reported.

JOHNDQ 03-06-19 02:35 PM

I'm also guessing the fact that it's never had a cambelt might have put him off because he did say he had had some quotes to do it in a garage and getting that done the service and the keys wasn't worth it to him

Dan1971 03-06-19 03:10 PM

Well - you'll make a few quid at some point on it.

Nice one... Perfect mk2 180 as far as I'm concerned. Silver suits it and no big spoiler suits me...

I guess you need to be careful on what you spend on it though if as you hint, you might not keep it. Doing the belts yourself would be a saver, and hopefully your ECU issues can be sorted relatively cheaply.

Saying that there aren't many - if any - good low mileage cars out there. Smokey is looking and has good money to spend so you might get decent money for it if you decide not to keep it.

JOHNDQ 03-06-19 04:54 PM

Very true, fingers crossed once ECU turns up it will run. If she does I'll run her for MOT and if that's all ok I'll do the belts etc. It's a risk buying any second-hand car really but at worst I suppose I could always put it out can't imagine I lose out. Guy seemed straight up and honest about everything tho so fingers crossed all be fine. I ordered an ECU kit yesterday so hopefully by mid-week it will be here

p_b82 05-06-19 10:40 AM

That looks mint for £300.... I can't believe something that tidy was sold for that little!

JOHNDQ 05-06-19 06:45 PM

Well good news the replacement ECU, SCU and fob came today and I'm please to say everything works perfectly, engine sounds perfect and even all the climate control works spot on

Dan1971 05-06-19 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNDQ (Post 379493)
Well good news the replacement ECU, SCU and fob came today and I'm please to say everything works perfectly, engine sounds perfect and even all the climate control works spot on

Great news ... :)

JOHNDQ 05-06-19 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 379494)
Great news ... :)

Thanks will get the MOT booked for next Saturday now

stamford 05-06-19 09:08 PM

Well that was a nice surprise!

peterzs 05-06-19 09:33 PM

Great story, glad it is all up and running.

Good luck with the MOT.

:):):)

JOHNDQ 05-06-19 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 379498)
Well that was a nice surprise!

Doesn't often happen to me

JOHNDQ 05-06-19 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterzs (Post 379500)
Great story, glad it is all up and running.

Good luck with the MOT.

:):):)

Thanks will keep you all updated

peterzs 07-06-19 01:56 PM

:bow::bow::bow:

JOHNDQ 08-06-19 09:17 PM

Well ive stored tge most important job..... found a silver extreme spoiler :p

Dan1971 08-06-19 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNDQ (Post 379522)
Well ive stored tge most important job..... found a silver extreme spoiler :p

:no::no:

peterzs 10-06-19 12:03 PM

:bow: :bow::bow::bow:

JOHNDQ 10-06-19 12:26 PM

Got to have the spoiler hasn't it being a 180 :) I remember my old workshop manager bought a Mark 1 ZS 180 saloon new and it came with the extreme spoiler then when he traded it in for a MK 2 you had to pay for it and he didn't get it and I always thought looked a bit strange without one. On another note where's the best place to get side skirt clips from rimmers?

Dan1971 10-06-19 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNDQ (Post 379532)
Got to have the spoiler hasn't it being a 180 :) ...

Not for me ... prefer it without but the majority favour them I think.

Rimmers I guess for the clips but not sure.

stamford 10-06-19 04:07 PM

Are the clips the same for mk1 & 2? I’ve just removed my sills as going steel skirts.

JOHNDQ 15-06-19 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 379537)
Are the clips the same for mk1 & 2? I’ve just removed my sills as going steel skirts.

I wouldn't know to be honest mate I can't recall ever taking MK1 side skirts off

Dan1971 15-06-19 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 379477)
...and I'd have another 33 tomorrow.

I had one too - great engine. Nice car.

There's a white limited edition one coming up at auction soon.

stamford 15-06-19 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNDQ (Post 379570)
I wouldn't know to be honest mate I can't recall ever taking MK1 side skirts off

Post a photo of yours, see how they look.

JOHNDQ 22-06-19 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 379577)
Post a photo of yours, see how they look.

Will do

JOHNDQ 22-06-19 08:56 PM

Little update, had a ZR Key, ignition barrel and door lock so ive stripped them out and put them in the ZS housings so got a matching set of keys now. I had a bit of a surprise on the car tho in terms of a fairly bad rust patch. I new it was there as it was advised on the last MOT but was worse than i expected as on my ZS Hatch which is used daily there isnt any corrosion on the jacking points. So to address the issue i removed the side skirt and the drivers front wing. The strange thing is on the nearside and on my Hatch the jacking point and floor section are coated with the dimpled under-seal stuff which is missing on the drivers side :no: There is defo not any signs of any repairs etc there so dont know if it was missed at the factory etc as its just painted (ive checked the build info the car came of the line on a Friday night :shifty:) Anyway this was what i was faced with....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...dd053e61_b.jpgIMG_20190622_181250~2 by John Quincey, on Flickr

Luckily after my heart attack had passed i took it all back to metal and it looks worse than it was. The metal is still solid as is the inside of the panel and most came back up to a clean surface with a 40 grit flap disc. So ive treated the metal, gave it 2 good coats of good zinc primer followed by a coat of sealer to give the zinc time to work, now will leave it a week before taking it all back to metal again and doing it correctly so matches the correct factory finish....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...cefe5e16_b.jpgIMG_20190622_200808~2 by John Quincey, on Flickr

Dan1971 23-06-19 09:38 AM

Keeping it?

JOHNDQ 23-06-19 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 379604)
Keeping it?

The plan is I will keep her for the summer then I'll see still in two minds to be honest

stamford 23-06-19 01:20 PM

Well saved. Mine is bad, might need new metal welding in.

JOHNDQ 23-06-19 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stamford (Post 379607)
Well saved. Mine is bad, might need new metal welding in.

I think it's fair to say I caught it just in time

talkingcars 24-06-19 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 379477)
….and I'd have another 33 tomorrow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 379574)
I had one too - great engine. Nice car.

There's a white limited edition one coming up at auction soon.

In Sicily last week we visited a museum about the Targa Floria road rally in Sicily. Amongst the race cars including Ferrari, Porsche, original Mini Cooper and full on race cars (one was a 1972 33 2/2 race car) there was a normal road going 33 estate.

He also had grills from a 1950's MG TF and a MG Metro, amazing place, wonderful owner who spent 2 hours showing us around, a must visit if you are near Palermo.


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