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Steven11 18-09-12 04:08 PM

Saloon vs hatch
 
Afternoon all

Im still quite new to the forum so ill pick my work carefully (really dont want to offend anyone), but i need to ask. Coming from someone who has had both models i really cant see why anyone would buy the saloon. It cost slightly more new, the boot hasent got as much usable space even though it's slightly bigger. Its a heavier car, and lets be honest (the spoiler) bit of an Evo rip off if we're all going to be honest.

Being a hatch driver i keep noticing we digs at hatch drivers here and there, ive managed to bite my lip long enough and feel its time to deffend my hatch. I have also noticed when people are asking about what to buy most people recommend the saloon. Dont get it. Dont get me wrong i love all things MG and im not slagging the Saloon. Just think the hatch is a much more usable car. Ide be interested to know how many of our members drive Hatches and how many drive Saloons

Any opinions or comments welcome.

POMPSKI 18-09-12 04:12 PM

Well I dont have the spoiler and agree it is a little over the top/rip off even if it does look good..... But I find the extra space very usable!

I frankly, find the saloon far better looking.

Steven11 18-09-12 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POMPSKI (Post 273057)
Well I dont have the spoiler and agree it is a little over the top/rip off even if it does look good..... But I find the extra space very usable!

I frankly, I find the saloon far better looking.

Ive got the small spoiler aswell. Defo agree makes the car look more classy.

Lukeus101 18-09-12 04:16 PM

Ive had both models too and I much prefer my hatch, much more visibility and the cabin feels more light. I still love the way the saloon looks but Id take a hatch everytime :)

waynester 18-09-12 04:20 PM

Hatch man here, & proud of it. :)

It's not that I dislike the saloon, I quite like it.. I just prefer the shape & convenience of the hatchback. After all, it also fits the 'Hot Hatch' nomenclature.

My last point is that I had a 5 series E39 BMW saloon for the last few years, so I really wanted something different.

Peace MG brothers... :flowers:

Fred68 18-09-12 04:23 PM

I like the look of the saloon but only if it has the extreme spoiler!! From the side it looks better imo. There is no question the hatch is more practical but it just doesn't look as good, again imo.

Smokey 18-09-12 04:39 PM

I have chosen hatch every time, I would only ever consider a yellow mk2 hatch for some reason!

Purely looks, I love the big look and the big spoiler, especially with the mk2 body kit. I never need more space than the saloon boot provides.

It's all down to personal taste, that's why they made both!

kev mocko 18-09-12 04:39 PM

Ive had two hatches and now got the saloon,and i found the hatch handled better for me now i have a saloon i can feel the difference,but on looks it was the big spoiler made me want a saloon as i like them with the extreme spoiler,but i loved my hatches with having the dog

KirkJames 18-09-12 04:43 PM

Doesn't look as good imo, unless its a mk2 hatch. I never have a go at anyone with a hatch as its what you prefer and if that works for you then thats great. Generally this is a friendly forum and I haven't seen any animosity toward hatch drivers. We are here for the badge!

WalkerDnB 18-09-12 04:57 PM

The zs is only a toy for me so practicality isnt important
I just think the saloon looks nicer and I love looking in the rear view and seeing that big spoiler :D

though to be honest after seeing some of the hatches on here im starting to like them :)

POMPSKI 18-09-12 04:58 PM

Quote:

though to be honest after seeing some of the hatches on here im starting to like them :)
Definetly, some have been made to look really stunning.

supercover 18-09-12 05:09 PM

I love the look of the saloon, especially in Mk2 form. However a hatchback is more practical. The hatch looks fine with the big wing on it too, without its a bit too Rovery for me.

Stev180 18-09-12 05:20 PM

I prefer the mk1 saloon (not biased at all!) I went from a 3 dr ZR 160 to the mk1 180 saloon, if I wanted a hatch I would have kept the ZR! Plus hatch looks a bit unfinished like the 3 series compact :whistle: lol

WalkerDnB 18-09-12 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercover (Post 273074)
bit too Rovery for me.

I like things rovery :D

petet16 18-09-12 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stev160 (Post 273077)
I prefer the mk1 saloon (not biased at all!) I went from a 3 dr ZR 160 to the mk1 180 saloon, if I wanted a hatch I would have kept the ZR! Plus hatch looks a bit unfinished like the 3 series compact :whistle: lol

This is why I prefer the saloon, the hatch looks like they missed a bit off the end,

Sorry hatch owners:)

Dan1971 18-09-12 05:26 PM

I've had all of them - mk1 saloon and hatch - and mk2 saloon and hatch.

Looks wise I think each car can be unique. Standard my personal taste is the Mk2 saloon with the lip spoiler - but I far preferred my Mk1 saloon looks wise after it'd been personalised.

My Mk1 hatch now is improving as far as I'm concerned after adding/changing bits and I prefer it and others to a standard Mk2 saloon.:whistle:

To be fair though - there are some people who have a wee dig at the hatches - but no more than people have a wee dig at the yellow ones .... ;)

All good fun.

talkingcars 18-09-12 05:39 PM

Personally I think the saloon looks more classy on the outside and feels more classy on the inside - how many executive cars are hatchbacks?

The extreme spoiler adds to the sporty looks, even on the mk1.

If I need to use a hatch back we have a ZR, a metro and a maestro (when it's running) to choose from or I can borrow a box van, 2 flatbed vans, an 18 or 26 tonne curtainsider, several 26 tonne flat beds with a crane or even 2 40 tonne wagon and drag with crane from work so I don't need the extra carrying capacity of a hatch, and I do have 2 trailers and a tow hitch on the ZS.

Jay-ZS+ 18-09-12 05:41 PM

Ive had both MK1 and 2 and Saloon definitely has the upper hand looks wise.

Also real men drive saloons! :ninja::p

stamford 18-09-12 05:42 PM

It doesn't bother me either way, still a ZS no matter what. Before I bought my saloon I nearly bought a hatch! Saloon works for me as I prefer the big spoiler so each to their own.

Jay-ZS+ 18-09-12 05:44 PM

Oh and as far as boot space, its surprising what you can get in the saloon. Ive had car full of tools, Spare Alloys, 3m timbers, and a 2t engine crane. Its all about how to pack it in and tie the boot lid down! ;)

WalkerDnB 18-09-12 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan1971 (Post 273080)
there are some people who have a wee dig at the hatches - but no more than people have a wee dig at the yellow ones .... ;)

All good fun.

So if you have a mk1 yellow hatch your in for it!! lol

ZS 18-09-12 06:40 PM

I've had 6 ZS's 3 have been saloons and 3 have been hatches.

Personally I prefer the saloon, with two children its a much more practical car for me, if I had a dog then the hatch would be better.

I'm not sure why but I think my driving style lends itself to the saloon better, the ones I have owned certainly feel like the saloons handled better (except the Red Hatch which had Gaz Coilovers on it, so was much much better handling)

Dunno, maybe its just personal preference.

End of the day I would say that ALL the ZS's were different from each other, unique in their own ways :)

Dav 18-09-12 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-ZS+ (Post 273082)

Also real men drive saloons! :ninja::p

Firstly, well said that man!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalkerDnB (Post 273072)

though to be honest after seeing some of the hatches on here im starting to like them :)

I have to agree with you there, I'm After a red hatch for my next ZS.

But number one for me will always be a mk2 saloon, simply as that is what I had first, and I love the saloon extreme spoiler :)

theboynoz 18-09-12 07:47 PM

Hatch, I do like the saloons but wouldn't have one.... Either way i can't fit my bloody cycle carrier so need to think about a roof rack as the bike won't go in the boot of either version without stripping the wheels off lol

brf1976 18-09-12 07:49 PM

I personally prefer the saloon with extreme spoiler especially if its yeeeeellow :D

theboynoz 18-09-12 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dav (Post 273129)

But number one for me will always be a mk2 saloon, simply as that is what I had first, and I love the extreme spoiler :)

Isn't the spoiler on the hatch also called the extreme spoiler, the only difference being the hatch or saloon version? I only ask as i have been told, at some point, that my hatch has an extreme spoiler and i know the scooby ish saloon version is the extreme one too......

Just asking by the way, i do not know enough about these cars yet (still!) to confirm this myself.....

brf1976 18-09-12 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboynoz (Post 273136)
Isn't the spoiler on the hatch also called the extreme spoiler, the only difference being the hatch or saloon version? I only ask as i have been told, at some point, that my hatch has an extreme spoiler and i know the scooby ish saloon version is the extreme one too......

Just asking by the way, i do not know enough about these cars yet (still!) to confirm this myself.....

I thought the saloon spoiler was classed as extreme because it was scooby ish/EVO looking (although) I could be wrong)

Dav 18-09-12 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboynoz (Post 273136)
Isn't the spoiler on the hatch also called the extreme spoiler, the only difference being the hatch or saloon version? I only ask as i have been told, at some point, that my hatch has an extreme spoiler and i know the scooby ish saloon version is the extreme one too......

Just asking by the way, i do not know enough about these cars yet (still!) to confirm this myself.....

Actually, yea, that's a good point, you're correct.

BRB, I need to change something ;)

waynester 18-09-12 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 273079)
This is why I prefer the saloon, the hatch looks like they missed a bit off the end,

Sorry hatch owners:)


What are the lyrics to the Queen song.... "fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin world go round..yeah'

;)

Ritchy 18-09-12 08:30 PM

i liked the saloon more because it was longer, dont dislike the hatch just like saloon cars in general, liked my orion more than an escort

Nor 18-09-12 08:33 PM

Drive and 'look at' both regularly. Saloon is a much better looking car in my view.

WalkerDnB 18-09-12 08:36 PM

some one needs to add a pole to this thread
what zs do you own:
mk1 saloon
mk1 hatch
mk2 saloon
mk2 hatch

:)

talkingcars 18-09-12 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboynoz (Post 273136)
Isn't the spoiler on the hatch also called the extreme spoiler, the only difference being the hatch or saloon version? I only ask as i have been told, at some point, that my hatch has an extreme spoiler and i know the scooby ish saloon version is the extreme one too......

Just asking by the way, i do not know enough about these cars yet (still!) to confirm this myself.....

Yes, both are known as "extreme".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273175)
i liked the saloon more because it was longer, dont dislike the hatch just like saloon cars in general, liked my orion more than an escort

Same here, jetta over golf, derby over polo, montego over maestro (although the front is different as well) etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboynoz (Post 273133)
Hatch, I do like the saloons but wouldn't have one.... Either way i can't fit my bloody cycle carrier so need to think about a roof rack as the bike won't go in the boot of either version without stripping the wheels off lol


I have a towball mounted cycle carrier that just clamps on or off the ball and folds to fit in the boot -also avoids scratching the car.

talkingcars 18-09-12 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WalkerDnB (Post 273178)
some one needs to add a pole to this thread
what zs do you own:
mk1 saloon
mk1 hatch
mk2 saloon
mk2 hatch

:)

Or should it be "which do you prefer" as some have had both.

theboynoz 18-09-12 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 273179)
Yes, both are known as "extreme".

I thought so.... thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 273179)
I have a towball mounted cycle carrier that just clamps on or off the ball and folds to fit in the boot -also avoids scratching the car.

Ah, a good point, but i do not have a towbar, so the roof will be my only option i fear..... Nevermind!

talkingcars 18-09-12 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboynoz (Post 273183)
....Ah, a good point, but i do not have a towbar, so the roof will be my only option i fear..... Nevermind!

I fitted a towbar as much for this as for towing trailers.

Ritchy 18-09-12 08:54 PM

i was going to get roof bars for my mountainbike, although it does just fit in the back with the front wheel off, cant get a second in though

WalkerDnB 18-09-12 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 273180)
Or should it be "which do you prefer" as some have had both.

yeah good point forgot some of you greedy lot have more than one zed :D

Steven11 18-09-12 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273190)
i was going to get roof bars for my mountainbike, although it does just fit in the back with the front wheel off, cant get a second in though

Took my hatch to Fort William this year. folded the seats, removed the parcel shelf out stuck my mate in the front and 4 mountain bikes in the back. There's no situation the hatch isnt prepared for.

andys1981 18-09-12 10:16 PM

only ever had two saloons,so i would say i prefer the saloon,prefer bigger cars


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