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BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 04:13 PM

My zs 160 vvc
 
finally it’s time for me to reveal what engine conversion I went with
Firstly well done to those who guessed correctly- 1st place is Dan, well done mate
Also Walker,Lawrence & Fred who all suggested the 160VVC.
My car is now running a 160 VVC & the conversion is a nice tidy job.

Massive :thankyou: to Goldie who had this job to do during moving to new unit and had a busted back, appreciate all the updates and teaching me about what’s required with the conversion.

Car runs really well & reckon I will be running it for a good while now as I was starting to lose interest in it and very nearly trading it in & leaving the scene, so a few goodies have been ordered and a little tlc will be given to it, couple of silly little Gremlins to iron out, MOT was passed today with no problems, car pulls really well & rip from exhaust when putting the foot down is very addictive
Anyone looking to do a conversion then I fully recommend to contact Goldie.

Maxfly 20-09-12 04:48 PM

Excellent sturff Marcus, was actually hunting for this thread a few days ago when your old engine went up for sale haha. Bet yer like a kid in a sweetie shop the noo wi it haha:D

mattie007 20-09-12 04:54 PM

Nice one, I am tempted by something similar!
How does it compare to the 110?

BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 04:56 PM

No so much a sweetie shop Gary, seen lot's of Esso shops lately.
Fed up of rainy nights as want to get out & enjoy a drive,

BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattie007 (Post 273589)
Nice one, I am tempted by something similar!
How does it compare to the 110?

Compared to my 110 when it was standard is unbelievable,
And it just pulls so much more torque than my 110 modded engine,
Really feels like a different car now.

Maxfly 20-09-12 05:05 PM

Be interesting to have some sort of back to back with one of the 180's down there, see what folk felt, as lighter engine should mean it handles with the same sharpness as when it was a 110 compared to the heavier kv6 but with closer matched power output could make it very interesting:D

BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 05:12 PM

I will be doing at least 1 Knockhill night with it Gary but prob not till Next yrar.when Smokey has the track car running also, Hopefully have a few other engine mods on it by then also.
Reckon with twists on Knockhill it could be very close with a 180,
not so sure about the long straight though..
My Xpower spring & 180 brake setup compliment the 160 engine,
loads of fun at roundabouts, just darts in & fires out ( bit like me with my Mrs)

Maxfly 20-09-12 05:24 PM

Ah, now i see...I thought it was that your favourite film was gone in 60 seconds but understand properly now ;) :D

grimmy 20-09-12 05:29 PM

I can confirm this is a worthy conversion it pulls like a bloody train nice one on the mot mate and well done Goldie,the vvc is a n excellent conversion and having seen it done I would consider a downgrade if the kv6 gave up on me.

stamford 20-09-12 07:12 PM

Sounds like a good job, keep us updated on how you got on with it as this could be a good benchmark. If it is not a problem from Goldie it would be good to have a write up on what was done so others can assess whether to do the same.

Ritchy 20-09-12 07:16 PM

Great, as for reliabilty ect the 160s are run reliable so sounds good to me:)

pete mufc bowker 20-09-12 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273620)
Great, as for reliabilty ect the 160s are run reliable so sounds good to me:)

whats the performance from a standerd 160, compared to a standerd 180, i dont seem to have a problem with handling on my 180, goes round sharp corners or long wide bends like its on a train track, and i find the more torque, the better it pulls u round/outta corners ect

WalkerDnB 20-09-12 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCKYDEVIL (Post 273581)
Walker,Lawrence & Fred who all suggested the 160VVC.

I got a mention BOOM!!! :thumbsup:

Awesome upgrade though vvc is always fun need a video of it blatting it up a (private) road now :)

Ritchy 20-09-12 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete mufc bowker (Post 273635)
whats the performance from a standerd 160, compared to a standerd 180, i dont seem to have a problem with handling on my 180, goes round sharp corners or long wide bends like its on a train track, and i find the more torque, the better it pulls u round/outta corners ect

hard to compare as different characteristic between the two engines, k series zs is a perfect 50/50 balance iirc, should be pretty even really tbh with a 180, plus knowing marcus there wll be more tweeks soon enough

WalkerDnB 20-09-12 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273672)
hard to compare as different characteristic between the two engines, k series zs is a perfect 50/50 balance iirc, should be pretty even really tbh with a 180, plus knowing marcus there wll be more tweeks soon enough

would be good to see how it compares to the 180 in a strait line I would think the 180 would be quicker but your 160 will mince in in the bends

Btw you need a "VVC Inside" sticker on the back now Get people thinking :)

Ritchy 20-09-12 09:12 PM

only gripe i have is...theres no pictures:P

pete mufc bowker 20-09-12 09:17 PM

seen
 
a zs saloon go past me yesterday with a 160 badge onit, do they make the zs160 standers or it it a engine swap job, coz the car that went past didnt look any diff, and if your going to all that trouble of swapping engines ect wouldnt u change/upgrade the look ect:)

Ritchy 20-09-12 09:18 PM

nope not standard, and marcus' car doesnt need anything doing outside

pete mufc bowker 20-09-12 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273688)
nope not standard, and marcus' car doesnt need anything doing outside

ill take your word for it, maybee he was in a 120 and changed the badge to a 160, neva seen 1 with that before, just made me wounder

BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273682)
only gripe i have is...theres no pictures:P

Nothing much to take pictures of really, just the tell tale VVC mechs at top of
rocker cover & VVC manifold- Sorry-
Will look to some future upgrades with Cams etc & will take some guidance from Goldie on how to progress the car but within safe limits.
At some point I will get it on the R/R to find out what it is at now and use that as a starting point.
Little things that are on to do list is find MK2 160 ECU/BCU as at the moment I have no boot release from the Keyfob or front fogs without adapting switches to latch switches, had to do this for Hazard switch for MOT
and surprised myself by bodging something simple up for £1.80 from Maplin.

Other thing is the VVC mechs rattle like an old diesel tractor when car is stationary,cant hear anything but exhuast rip when moving,
but it is noticable and I guess I may just get used to it over time as it seems a rather common thing with the VVC.

Dont have plans to put "VVC inside" stickers on it or 160 badges as I would prefer just to surprise anyone that wants to go against a ZS 1.6.

pete mufc bowker 20-09-12 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCKYDEVIL (Post 273707)
Nothing much to take pictures of really, just the tell tale VVC mechs at top of
rocker cover & VVC manifold- Sorry-
Will look to some future upgrades with Cams etc & will take some guidance from Goldie on how to progress the car but within safe limits.
At some point I will get it on the R/R to find out what it is at now and use that as a starting point.
Little things that are on to do list is find MK2 160 ECU/BCU as at the moment I have no boot release from the Keyfob or front fogs without adapting switches to latch switches, had to do this for Hazard switch for MOT
and surprised myself by bodging something simple up for £1.80 from Maplin.

Other thing is the VVC mechs rattle like an old diesel tractor when car is stationary,cant hear anything but exhuast rip when moving,
but it is noticable and I guess I may just get used to it over time as it seems a rather common thing with the VVC.

Dont have plans to put "VVC inside" stickers on it or 160 badges as I would prefer just to surprise anyone that wants to go against a ZS 1.6.

does erhemm mr erhemm insurance man know it erhermm moddied lol, dont answer that, my m8 has a astra max van with a vectra gsi engine init pushing 330bhp, leaves my z standing, does my nut right in lol, mr insurance man thinks its a deisel lol

BUCKYDEVIL 20-09-12 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete mufc bowker (Post 273709)
does erhemm mr erhemm insurance man know it erhermm moddied lol, dont answer that, my m8 has a astra max van with a vectra gsi engine init pushing 330bhp, leaves my z standing, does my nut right in lol, mr insurance man thinks its a deisel lol

lol

andys1981 20-09-12 10:08 PM

glad to hear you got it back mate,did concider a vvc in the zr but wanted a zs back in my life more,glad to hear your happy with it,top marks to goldie again eh!!

Maxfly 23-09-12 07:45 PM

I'm with Ritchy, this thread needs pics tbh, regardless of there no being much more to look at your ZS is a cracker Marcus so get snapping :D

BUCKYDEVIL 23-09-12 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxfly (Post 274134)
I'm with Ritchy, this thread needs pics tbh, regardless of there no being much more to look at your ZS is a cracker Marcus so get snapping :D

Will get a little video clip/drive by sorted soon then.

Stephen 23-09-12 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUCKYDEVIL (Post 274162)
Will get a little video clip/drive by sorted soon then.

If you need a hand with that im sure a mini meet could be arranged!

Would be nice to see how the VVC ZS compares to a Twincharged 160 Jetta!

grimmy 23-09-12 09:26 PM

And a 180 shed.

talkingcars 23-09-12 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimmy (Post 274166)
And a 180 shed.

I refuse to bring my car all the way up there!

grimmy 23-09-12 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talkingcars (Post 274167)
I refuse to bring my car all the way up there!

Lol

WalkerDnB 23-09-12 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete mufc bowker (Post 273709)
does erhemm mr erhemm insurance man know it erhermm moddied lol

way I see it if he doesn't rev high enough to hit the VVC its still a 120 ;)

BUCKYDEVIL 10-10-12 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxfly (Post 274134)
I'm with Ritchy, this thread needs pics tbh, regardless of there no being much more to look at your ZS is a cracker Marcus so get snapping :D

Took this pic today after adding a few bits of red detailing to caps,
Cleaned up the VVC inlet with some sanding and it came up a treat.
[IMG]http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...l/100_1993.jpg[/IMG]

Smokey 10-10-12 03:54 PM

Lookin good mate!

grimmy 10-10-12 05:13 PM

Much neater looking now mate good stuff.

Ritchy 10-10-12 05:15 PM

looking good:)

Maxfly 10-10-12 05:23 PM

Looking great Marcus, liking the red detailing and tidy inlet too. How's it all going, any teething issues. Bet the extra oomph still plants a smile on yer face:)

Supercharged_Z 10-10-12 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ritchy (Post 273688)
nope not standard, and marcus' car doesnt need anything doing outside

in all fairness mg did put out a couple of vvc mg zs 160's when they went pop.

we ended up with 2 at our dealership, put it down to mg using chasis and engines up

BUCKYDEVIL 10-10-12 06:11 PM

Thanks for positive comments guys, Thankfully Ive no real problematic teething problems
Car handles really well & Ive kinda stopped/slowed down with the quick cornering & overtaking,
Massive fun at first but I was being a bit of a Bellend revving it out the street
Hope to keep it running well and now Ive got my trackday tyres(Thanks Ritchy)
fitted to old wheels then I can try it out on Knockhill rather than public road.

splinter 10-10-12 06:41 PM

This sounds very interesting... sorry if I've missed something previously but have a couple of questions.
Is this a total engine and box change or is there some way of converting to a vvc head and vvc assembly?
I was told that a 160 head could be fitted to my 120 minus the vvc gear, fit some different cams throttle body and remap giving somewhere close to a 160. True or bullpoo?
Now the rude question...what sort of damage was done to your bank account?

BUCKYDEVIL 10-10-12 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splinter (Post 276689)
This sounds very interesting... sorry if I've missed something previously but have a couple of questions.
Is this a total engine and box change or is there some way of converting to a vvc head and vvc assembly?
I was told that a 160 head could be fitted to my 120 minus the vvc gear, fit some different cams throttle body and remap giving somewhere close to a 160. True or bullpoo?
Now the rude question...what sort of damage was done to your bank account?

This was a Complete engine change but Ive kept the IB5 gearbox, so far it's holding out well and is a nicer box compared to the sloppy PG1,
I have a backup PG1 should the current one go Bang..
The VVC head can & has been fitted to other bottom ends but why do half a job ??
The question of what it cost - Well, if I never told the Mrs then I wont be telling you lot..:)
Wasnt as much as you would think & much cheaper than the last guy offering the 160VVC conversion wanted to charge,
and a deal was done for my old engine with some goodies on it..
Send an enquiry to Goldie if your interested..

Ritchy 10-10-12 08:25 PM

ib5 is a good box marcus, my dad doesnt rate the pg1 that much tbh,


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