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tallgeese 09-05-14 06:14 PM

It died on the way home
 
Well as the title states my new 05plate zs saloon died on me on the way home, well i say died i have an engine warning light on :(

Made the trip from Manchester airport as far as Queensferry when a warning light came on, the car seemed to be running fine until this point so now i terrified i have bought a lemon!

The car itself is far from perfect but i did not let a few issues put me off now im wishing they had :cry:

List of issues i have found so far:

01: The boot is sagging and seems to be missing a few clips
02: The rear bumper is loose on the drivers side
03: The spare wheel well is full of rust and has been painted with what looks like under seal
04: The rear door handles are both the wrong colour for the car
05: There is something rattling on the drivers door but not sure what it is
06: Part of the front bumper is being held on by a cable tie but cant see very well what part
07: The center console does not seem to be fit right
08: The clock and dash lights in general are all very dim
09: Exhaust pipe is too short for the car it's about 4inches too short
10: Metal hub that the fuel pumps go into is rusted to smeg

Well this is my list so far it will no doubt get bigger so im off to cry now, any advice is welcome as is a box of tissues :cry: :cry:

petet16 09-05-14 06:19 PM

Put a fault code reader on it, I'll take a punt that it's the crank sensor.

tallgeese 09-05-14 06:59 PM

Fingers crossed its something cheap like that :)

andys1981 09-05-14 07:02 PM

most of them are just cosmetic mate,they can be fixed over time,this is what ive been doing with mine,changed the rear door handle on mine yesterday,was a bit of a ballache,but happy ive done it,hope the code reader finds out the problem,and it not too costly/serious,fingers crossed.

Ritchy 09-05-14 07:19 PM

If its still running fine it may be something like a cat efficiency fault, tend to come on on longer runs

petet16 09-05-14 07:24 PM

I misunderstood, if it's still running it won't be the crank sensor, die to me suggested it wouldn't run.

tb steve 09-05-14 07:34 PM

im breaking a mk 1 saloon at the moment so i might be able to help out that's if a few bits will fit but im sure someone will say ya or na please ????
but there is someone who is breaking a mk2 as well in the for sale section ( if he still has it :( )

List of issues i have found so far:

01: The boot is sagging and seems to be missing a few clips = i have them
02: The rear bumper is loose on the drivers side = i have clips
03: The spare wheel well is full of rust and has been painted with what looks like under seal
04: The rear door handles are both the wrong colour for the car
05: There is something rattling on the drivers door but not sure what it is
06: Part of the front bumper is being held on by a cable tie but cant see very well what part
07: The center console does not seem to be fit right
08: The clock and dash lights in general are all very dim
09: Exhaust pipe is too short for the car it's about 4inches too short = i have pic in the for sale section
10: Metal hub that the fuel pumps go into is rusted to smeg = i have that too

if it is a sensor just give us a shout mate

steve

tallgeese 09-05-14 07:50 PM

Also need to add 1st and 2nd gear are a pig to engage

also tb steve u got mail

R8NMG 09-05-14 08:40 PM

With regards to the exhaust being short. There are back boxes for mk1 and mk2 but also for saloon and hatch. Obviously a wrong one has been fitted hence it is too short.

tallgeese 09-05-14 09:33 PM

Well it's off to a garage first thing tomoz to be diagnosed so fingers crossed it's a cheap simple fix :)

talkingcars 10-05-14 07:00 AM

For a 9 year old car that doesn't seem too bad, as already said most of it is cosmetic and will give great satisfaction when fixed.

tallgeese 10-05-14 08:52 AM

Well the garage has come back with 2 faults 1, speedo sender not working 2, cat is sending fault signals :(

Also came down to a pond in the passenger footwell thismorning, I could cry, anyone want a low milage zs??

petet16 10-05-14 09:05 AM

Chin up, mk2's are notorious for filling the passenger footwell, there is a fix though, if you remove the plastic scuttle cover at the bottom of the windscreen and seam seal the spot welded flange around the heater intake, and also bend the flange back slightly your pond will be a thing of the past.

Jay-ZS+ 10-05-14 09:18 AM

Sounds like a standard ZS, all small issues easily fixed. Weathers decent man up and get the tools out. :D

peterzs 10-05-14 09:29 AM

All sounds a normal ZS.

Easy fixes, all covered on here somewhere.

Rear bumper sag, http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=7019

Stick with it and you will have a great car!!

:-D:-D:-D

tallgeese 10-05-14 09:30 AM

has anyone got a picture guide on the leak fix?

petet16 10-05-14 09:55 AM

Here's a picture of the heater intake under the scuttle panel, I've already sealed the spot welded flange.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7384/...3b818643_c.jpg

I didn't bend the flange back, instead I used a rubber flap to direct any water away from the intake, as shown in the pic

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2865/...da9620fc_c.jpg

Dan1971 10-05-14 10:21 AM

Sorry that you've had some issues.

But ...

The cosmetic bits are just that - cosmetic - and I expect there when you bought the car. There is a guide on here to fix all of those issues and you already have an offer of (cheap) parts .... The true benefits of this fantastic forum coming to the top again ... :bow:

I have no doubt that if you fancied it, a few guys would come round (on a promise of coffee and bacon rolls) to help sort anything you're not confident about. It's all well and good us telling you what to do, but if like me at first you're reluctant to mess about with your car, it's good to have some people around to learn from. Trust me - I've been there and have managed over time to become fairly confident at a few things and have a go.

You mention that you bought it from a dealer though - surely there may be some come back for you if a code reader has established faults .... Maybe worth a phone call if you haven't already.

tallgeese 10-05-14 10:32 AM

I have tried to be nice and chat with the seller his response was a sound:
"sod off sold as seen" hahaha

As for the leaks i have now had a try at the boot one using the dreaded silicone around the boot vent which for some reason is loose and flapping around, but having traced what looked like a small stream back to it the whole thing is now sealed to death lol.

Im going to have a try at the heater intake seal thank to the guide provided by the good Mr pete16 (thank you very much) as soon as the rain stops :D

I did try and pm the chap who is offering cheap bit and i await his reply ;)

Before i forget to ask has anyone else suffered with major rust on the fuel inlet pipe behind the filler flap as mine is awful and has to be changed, problem being i cant for the life of me find the part or a price guide on its repair.

P.S free tea, coffee or happy meals for anyone who can help fix the old girl :)

andys1981 10-05-14 10:48 AM

check the back lights are tight,as with my 1st zs this is where water was getting in,i know it sounds like you have a lot of problems,but just tackle them,one by one,you will get them all fixed.

petet16 10-05-14 11:17 AM

A diagram of the fuel filler pipe.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID003474

tallgeese 10-05-14 11:20 AM

Thanks for the pic petet16 once again your a big help, i think i just need bits 25,26 and 39 as its is just the very top part that's rotten

peterzs 10-05-14 11:21 AM

If he is a trader, he has to give six months legal rights, no matter what he says.

http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/used-car...cond-hand-cars

tallgeese 10-05-14 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterzs (Post 338307)
If he is a trader, he has to give six months legal rights, no matter what he says.

http://www.lawgistics.co.uk/used-car...cond-hand-cars

Problem i have is he says he is a private seller who just goes through car (he has sold 7 in the last week) so its proving he's a trader that is the trick but i appreciate the help buddy :clap:

And a big :thankyou: to all who have posted thus far too

petet16 10-05-14 11:26 AM

A link for number 25 http://www.mgroverpartfinder.co.uk/D...10%26browse%3d

peterzs 10-05-14 11:54 AM

Depends how far you want to go with it, Trading Standards might be interested, as he is selling far more cars than a "Private seller".

Or just bite the bullet and fix it.

Jay-ZS+ 10-05-14 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterzs (Post 338310)
Depends how far you want to go with it, Trading Standards might be interested, as he is selling far more cars than a "Private seller".

Or just bite the bullet and fix it.

Or HMRC sure they would be interested!

petet16 10-05-14 12:13 PM

It used to be the case that you were allowed to sell something like 6 cars per year as a private seller, any more than 6 was considered to be dealing, I don't know if that still applies.

petet16 10-05-14 12:14 PM

I don't think "sold as seen" is any sort of defence these days.

tallgeese 10-05-14 12:26 PM

Quick update i have just broken lots of engine bay clips trying to get to the vent under the scuttle panel to find.........Its dry as bone with no signs of water anywhere near :( any other points of entry as i can feel water around a round black thing under the glove box???

Have also contacted trading standards via email plus citizens advice and ebay now i play the waiting game :D

petet16 10-05-14 12:36 PM

The black thing is the heater, if it's wet round it that's coming from the heater intake, despite the fact it may appear dry.

deano9621 10-05-14 05:50 PM

If its any help mate,my mk2 filler neck was rotten,and only today got a mint mk1 filler neck which almost looks new for only £12 from a scrapy,you will sort it all...stick with it and all will work out fine,ive had mine fir two month's now and it's starting to look good now....keep with it��

tallgeese 10-05-14 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deano9621 (Post 338339)
If its any help mate,my mk2 filler neck was rotten,and only today got a mint mk1 filler neck which almost looks new for only £12 from a scrapy,you will sort it all...stick with it and all will work out fine,ive had mine fir two month's now and it's starting to look good now....keep with it��


Cheers buddy, after sorting the boot leak im feeling better plus the garage managed to clear the faults and so far no more warning light and whats better they didnt charge me for doing it:smart:

FYI for all those who are interested the ebay dealer i bought the car from: gingergodder25 has switched to another account now and is called : harry25libby29, my advice dont buy from him ;)

R8NMG 11-05-14 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallgeese (Post 338299)
has anyone got a picture guide on the leak fix?

I did mine the other week after 10 years. The foam under the carpet on the passenger footwell was soaking. I used a cloth to soak up most of the water but it is still damp. The constant wet carpet made the car smells mouldy and damp. Waiting for good weather for a drying session.

tallgeese 11-05-14 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8NMG (Post 338463)
I did mine the other week after 10 years. The foam under the carpet on the passenger footwell was soaking. I used a cloth to soak up most of the water but it is still damp. The constant wet carpet made the car smells mouldy and damp. Waiting for good weather for a drying session.

Gunna need to dry my carpet too but really don't want to pull it out as it's a bit above my skill level 😖

tallgeese 12-05-14 09:31 AM

New morning update, Checked the boot again today and found...... yes you guessed it more water. Looks to be coming in through the bumper bracket clips and from the rear light assembly :(

And aging the front passengers foot well is damp/wet but at least no puddle today. And as its forecasting rain for the next few day i am now fully stocked on kitchen towel :)

Now where to buy a good water pump from..........

petet16 12-05-14 09:34 AM

I got round the rear lights leaking by making 2 new gaskets from 3mm closed cell foam, and used plenty of silicone grease on the body where the lights fit, no more water in the boot :punk:

tallgeese 12-05-14 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 338505)
I got round the rear lights leaking by making 2 new gaskets from 3mm closed cell foam, and used plenty of silicone grease on the body where the lights fit, no more water in the boot :punk:

Oh petet16 ill buy you a happy meal if you come and fix mine:rofl:

petet16 12-05-14 10:55 AM

lol, it's a shame your the other end of Wales.

tallgeese 12-05-14 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petet16 (Post 338511)
lol, it's a shame your the other end of Wales.

That's an easy problem to solve...... move to conwy :thumbsup:


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