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afcbadam 13-06-08 08:34 AM

0-60 in 6.5 sec in a 1.8
 
like to know what has been done. these are as fast as my old v6 and there only 1.8's

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YeOWG3DzIKU

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O1RQV3...eature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JP9ku8...eature=related

Boot Hill Bandit 13-06-08 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by afcbadam (Post 56426)

The K series has always been very tuneable......

I went to Brands Hatch a few months back to go for a ride in a MG ZR rallycar.........that was a 1.4 and producing over 170bhp...... 0 -60 was ridiculous and we was passing most things on track from a old BMW touring car (1990/1991 M3), Caterhams, Elises plus many other cars that you would not even contemplate toying with.

Jim

Witnes$ 13-06-08 09:12 AM

What does it take and cost to get a 120 to that kind of performance?

Boot Hill Bandit 13-06-08 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Witnes$ (Post 56442)
What does it take and cost to get a 120 to that kind of performance?

I'm no engine builder but I would imagine a good start would be the following:

ITG Induction set up, full exhaust sytem and manifolds, VVC head with VVC mechanism removed is what a lot seem to do (not sure of the eaxct spec of that I should imagine it is quite involved), bigger cams, stand alone ECU, uprated clutch and god know what else........

I do believe the ZR I was in had throttle bodies......and that's expensive too.

Jim

samo8076 13-06-08 10:09 AM

man thats quick. whats the most a 180 can push out do you wreckon?

Boot Hill Bandit 13-06-08 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by samo8076 (Post 56465)
man thats quick. whats the most a 180 can push out do you wreckon?

NASP?? with 'off the shelf' mods?? probably 200 - 220bhp.

Thing is........there is never a definitive answer........how deep are your pockets and how extreme do you want to go?

Again........if you wanted to tune the KV6 really hard you would rebuild the engine with modded internals......lighten them, balance them......you'd replace pistons and conrods as well I would imagine all with strengthened parts.....you may even overbore the engine a little I guess.

Cylinder heads you may port and polish, gasflow them, fit bigger valves, fit bigger camshafts which may make the idle lumpy but give bigger gains when above a certain rev range.....

all that combined with some of the off the shelf products or even throttle bodies and the socks over the trumpets.

The world is your oyster really.

Jim

lewerty 13-06-08 10:20 AM

ive had mine timed at 5.9sec

Boot Hill Bandit 13-06-08 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by lewerty (Post 56467)
ive had mine timed at 5.9sec

Thats good going dude ;)

Tell you what folks........I have heard of a stealth mod. But don't go shouting it out everywhere okay......

What you need to do........is buy a couple of site stickers ;)

Be warned though.........I know the small ones are worth about a tenth of a second but the bigger ones give the best gains of around a half a second from 0 - 60. And don't stick them anywhere because you will upset the balance of the car and end up in someones hedge ;)

Jim

chriszs180 13-06-08 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boot Hill Bandit (Post 56472)
Thats good going dude ;)

Tell you what folks........I have heard of a stealth mod. But don't go shouting it out everywhere okay......

What you need to do........is buy a couple of site stickers ;)

Be warned though.........I know the small ones are worth about a tenth of a second but the bigger ones give the best gains of around a half a second from 0 - 60. And don't stick them anywhere because you will upset the balance of the car and end up in someones hedge ;)

Jim


so thats why my focus was so quick.................

he he i got the big ones....

Boot Hill Bandit 13-06-08 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chriszs180 (Post 56490)
so thats why my focus was so quick.................

he he i got the big ones....

Damn right........put them in the wrong place though and you are asking for trouble. Put mine on the front splitter.......should have put it on the sideskirts towards the front of the car. Gave me too much understeer that far up front :yes:

Other good point is you will be helping the site too, by buying some which we all appreciate!

Jim

dvid 13-06-08 12:29 PM

I would love to have mine timed, feels quicker than 7.3 secs to 60

DeMoNPauL 13-06-08 02:17 PM

Or you could drop one of these in the 120

http://www.ptp-ltd.co.uk/shop/279_53...ort_engine.htm

Dave ZS-X 13-06-08 06:19 PM

videos rigged imo ,first one shows it setting off at just before 4 seconds and it hits 60 at 11 seconds dead ,so its just over 7 seconds to 60.
But look how it pulls round to a ton by 21 seconds ,so thats 0-100 mph in 17 seconds ,thats comfortably faster than a zs 180 and he only has induction and exhaust so is making 125 bhp if hes lucky.
The video is made going down hill ,its the only explanation.

Dave

afcbadam 13-06-08 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boot Hill Bandit (Post 56440)
The K series has always been very tuneable......

I went to Brands Hatch a few months back to go for a ride in a MG ZR rallycar.........that was a 1.4 and producing over 170bhp...... 0 -60 was ridiculous and we was passing most things on track from a old BMW touring car (1990/1991 M3), Caterhams, Elises plus many other cars that you would not even contemplate toying with.

Jim

hi jim. how r u. do you know what the 1.8 turbo k series is tunable. been looking to get mine chipped but cant find anywhere that do them. tryed superchips, bluefin and chiptuning uk. its 160bhp standard so shouldnt be that hard to get it to around the 200bhp mark. or would that be putting to much strain on the engine (head pistons ect)

afcbadam 13-06-08 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave ZS-X (Post 56538)
videos rigged imo ,first one shows it setting off at just before 4 seconds and it hits 60 at 11 seconds dead ,so its just over 7 seconds to 60.
But look how it pulls round to a ton by 21 seconds ,so thats 0-100 mph in 17 seconds ,thats comfortably faster than a zs 180 and he only has induction and exhaust so is making 125 bhp if hes lucky.
The video is made going down hill ,its the only explanation.

Dave

there may be a few things hes not telling us. if i had a 1.8 that accelerated to 60 in that time i wouldnt give all my secrets away. mabye the car is also stripped all that extra weight gone would improve the 0-60 time

Dave ZS-X 13-06-08 07:02 PM

nah its rubbish ,stripping wouldnt make that much difference .
Standard zs 120 is about 30 seconds to 100 mph ,so hes knocked off 13 seconds:sneaky:

Dave

afcbadam 13-06-08 07:31 PM

hes done something. theres vids from different people showing the 120 hitting 60 in that time. possible turbo conversion that there not telling about?

lewerty 13-06-08 08:57 PM

wasnt there a 120 with a turbo???

arwilson80 13-06-08 10:25 PM

Is there any possability that these may not even be done on the road? Like maybe on a RR where the car doesn't have to actually move it's whole weight... just the rollers? That could possibly mean less friction as well and reducing the 0-60 time.

Just 'throwing an option out there'... ;)

DeMoNPauL 14-06-08 12:49 AM

Well its possible he could have the engine in i posted about above.

Andyf 14-06-08 08:48 AM

I don't think it is done on a rolling road as the camera appears so move back as he accelerates then forwards as he changes gear which makes me think it is moving.

afcbadam 14-06-08 09:19 AM

acceleration of a 180 fuel economy of a 120. nice


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