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Old 24-06-13, 07:47 AM   #7
Mark S
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the 1.9 is a fiat lump whereas the 1.7dti was an isuzu lump.

I thought there was a bout a grand difference between them?

The 1.9 will blow its M32 gearbox, they fail as early as 40k and most have destroyed themselves by 70k.
The 16v 1.9 will most likely give you egr problems, swirl flap problems which if your unlucky will ingest into the engine and chew up the turbo on the way out, and if your really unlucky and the water pump seizes, it will strip the camblet and give you major engine problems.
So there's 4 reasons to be careful.

The 8v 120bhp will tune to 160-165bhp which makes it fly and feel almost as quick as the 16v, without the water pump issues or swirl flap issues.

The 1.7 is cheap as chips, you can pick up an ex police 3 or 5 door in white for 1500quid, 3 years old with full history.
These have discs all round air con and sri seats.
A set of wheels, a remap and a bit of tarting up can provide a really cheap 3 yr old car.

The 1.7 will never be quick and will be passed by many a milk float and push bike.
ther stock 75bhp will usually only make 90bhp with just a remap, but they are reliable and will do 50mpg all day long.

Trying to get 150bhp from one is just plain stupid as one is much better buying the fiat powered 1.9 version.
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