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Old 01-12-12, 10:53 PM   #1
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T16 wouldnt give any power perfomance benefit over a 180 tbh. so better of with a 180 with the right mods.
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Old 01-12-12, 10:58 PM   #2
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T16 wouldnt give any power perfomance benefit over a 180 tbh. so better of with a 180 with the right mods.
well the T16 produces more power than the 180 and has more potential
If your willing to spend money on a super charger then a t16 is the way to go imo
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Old 01-12-12, 11:46 PM   #3
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well the T16 produces more power than the 180 and has more potential
If your willing to spend money on a super charger then a t16 is the way to go imo

What your ignoring is the age of this engine.

I will give you some facts.

A friend ran a std nasp Zs up santa pod and did consistent 14.9 quarter miles.

I took a nasp zs up the strip with reduced weight and ran a 14.3

I ran a striped zs out with 210 hp and ran a 13.7

I ran a striped (lighter than the nasp) supercharged zs up the strip many times and managed to get 13.5 after 3 years. (260BHP!!)

go and look for a T16 up the strip. Honestly Power is not everything and I know pub talk means a lot to people but a decent 200bhp KV6 will see off a 250bhp T16 every day.


So the T16 can be pushed to 300bhp? I wouldn't bother the cost and benefit if any outweigh the cost. you end up needing serious chassis development, brake developmentand so on. Fact is (me included) the ZS in KV6 form is still very track agile and I doubt many of us could push it beyond its limitations in the right circumstances (115mph down craners on road tyres for example!!!)

I have witnessed so much pure ***** in my time with these cars (03 onwards)

Honestly a T16 is well passed it. do the right mods to a KV6 and say goodbye.

Ross

edit for what its worth I have owned all of the above cars.

180BHP ZS NASP

190BHP ZS NASP

230 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

260 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

210 BHP ZS NASP (CAMS ETC) X 2

Many T16 cars
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Old 01-12-12, 11:56 PM   #4
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I was told something a few years ago and at the time i ignored it. infact the owner probably realized himself he pushed the ZS chassis to the max.

power is nothing without control

i.e power is not everything, even in a straight line the chassis has a lot to do with the power it puts down
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for the posts reference 250 burning St's etc

A focus ST weighs how much?

A T16 car weight how much?

Honestly this engine is past it, a 250 bhp car that weighs a tonne does not breeze past another 250bhp car that weighs a tonne. There is a reason for it.

For anybody reading this thread and you have a 250 BHP T16 I would put my 210 bhp KV6 up against it at the strip and a track day all day everyday if you like?

Honestly stick with a kv6
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Old 02-12-12, 12:09 AM   #6
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For anybody reading this thread and you have a 250 BHP T16 I would put my 210 bhp KV6 up against it at the strip and a track day all day everyday if you like?
Thats a challenge that should be posted on rovertech

Im not going to argue with you
Ive never personally owned a t16 just had mates that have and never seen a supercharged kv6 so you know more than me
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Old 02-12-12, 12:11 AM   #7
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Thats a challenge that should be posted on rovertech

Im not going to argue with you
Ive never personally owned a t16 just had mates that have and never seen a supercharged kv6 so you know more than me
Thing is i dont need a challenge. Without sounding bigheaded. I have been there and done it. look at quarter mile times of a 250bhp T16 for example.

Il say it again

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Old 02-12-12, 12:14 AM   #8
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i could sell you my charger, but not my car. i still have a few things to try though.

whats with the T16 bashing. you know it was released after the K4!

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Old 02-12-12, 12:16 AM   #9
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I would buy it as i have unfinished business but be quick

No t16 bashing just stating experience!

one thing i noticed is, you don't need the torque!
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[=Drew;285001]i could sell you my charger, but not my car. i still have a few things to try though.

whats with the T16 bashing. you know it was released after the K4!

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That sounds like an offer to sell...
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