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Old 12-04-10, 12:29 PM   #1
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Post Unleaded vs LPG.......

For a while now we have seen a rise in fuel prices and I for one am keen on keeping my ZS whilst also trying to find ways of making it mine and costing less to run.

Recently I have been looking at LPG conversions.......roughly around £1800 for it to be installed and paying for itself in just a few years. Performance and reliability were the two concerns a few years back when a member on here 'Papa Lazaroo' had a conversion done but it kinda went *****......so he had another company put it all right and as far as I know he left here with everything running good.

Watching the BTCC a few weeks back I was reminded of LPG as I do believe the Arena Ford Focuses are running it under hard racing with the NGTC engines....... (New Generation Turbo Charged engines) so performance can't be that bad??

Anyone on here running LPG in their ZS and got opinions and advice? My credit card should be paid off next month and after June I have a little time to do more 'mods' before the baby comes. Obviously this mod is very favourable in the house at the minute as it could save money in the long run!

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Old 12-04-10, 12:44 PM   #2
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I looked into this about 2-3 years ago but the time it would take to pay it back was too long. Secondly I didn't want the added weight and loss of boot space.
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Old 12-04-10, 12:49 PM   #3
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I looked into this about 2-3 years ago but the time it would take to pay it back was too long. Secondly I didn't want the added weight and loss of boot space.
Yeah I know what you mean it will take a while to pay it all off but once it is fitted and running it is just a matter of time before it becomes an investment plus I can unleash it a bit more without worrying about the cost of a litre of go go juice!

Was thinking I would ask for the donut in the spare wheel well ........failing that it can go in the boot as there isn't much room in there anyway in the hatch

Might have to put the standard springs back on the car with the extra weight though .........worth me going to look at a car set up with an LPG conversion anyway.

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Old 12-04-10, 01:09 PM   #4
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do you know whats involved with this conversion?

is it just a gas canister and some rubber hosing to the engine? or is it alot more complicated then that?

maybe i should surf google and stop asking silly questions
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Old 12-04-10, 01:19 PM   #5
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do you know whats involved with this conversion?

is it just a gas canister and some rubber hosing to the engine? or is it alot more complicated then that?

maybe i should surf google and stop asking silly questions
Ironically it is the Prins autogas system that Papa had installed.......and look who uses it!

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Old 12-04-10, 01:40 PM   #6
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had a quick read up...

seems simple enough!

gas tank in the spare wheel well, hoseing running underniethe the car to some sort of vapour tank in the engine bay (converting the liquid gas to vapour). then to some new injectors where the gas is injected straight into the engine

you also get a new ECU to go along side your exsisting ECU and a push button to tell the ECU to switch between gas and petrol.

there is adverts for these conversions as cheap as £900 but didnt look into the quality of those conversions

seems the general view is that running on the LPG you are cutting your fuel costs in half, but i guess that depends how much you use the LPG? as you have the option to switch to petrol whenever you want! which i guess can be determined by your mood/driving needs. Eco-drive, put the LPG on! in the mood to put your foot down, switch back to petrol!

couldnt really find any info on how much additional weight you get with the LPG. Also more importantly, when switching from petrol to LPG on a (quite possibly) regular basis, what effect will this have on the life span of the engine?
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Old 12-04-10, 01:42 PM   #7
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Jim I have also been looking into this. I think the pay off time is comming down due to the increase in petrol prices. I got quoted £1400 from grren fuel to do the conversion I was very tempted to get it done just saving up the cash. My wife is always nipping me head at my pertol bill so It would be a great mod indeed.
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I did 20,000 miles in my ZS, and I did a years worth of driving in it. Checked out the calculator, it would pay off in just over a year. I'll look into this when I finish uni!
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I did 20,000 miles in my ZS, and I did a years worth of driving in it. Checked out the calculator, it would pay off in just over a year. I'll look into this when I finish uni!
Every 20,000 miles the LPG system needs a service........it is a few filters which you could do yourself...........but no point as you would want to keep the warranty.......all simple stuff.

I really am sold on this. Above all the other bits my car needs this would save me money. Can't think of any other mods that save you money..........maybe tyres but I think that is more to do with correct inflation.

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Also, my friend did his own LPG conversion on his Fiat Cinquento, bought all the parts for about £400 on ebay. He's laughing now!
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