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02-02-11, 09:24 AM
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the HG went on it from what i understand.. but the 400bhp ZR is still fine.... so a case of bad luck i think rather than 'it blew up' those vag units tend to be pretty reliable!
Back to this.. i think it is an awesome idea, but from having a project that is a money pit i do strongly suggest you think very long and hard about it.... you need to have a maximum amount of money you think you will spend and then double it to ensure you have the 'float' for when things go wrong....
I suspect you may need to have a bulge put in the bonnet to route the pipes, even with everything else squeezed out the way - the L-series sits a lot lower than the KV6 to enable the pipework to go from the back of the engine bay (turbo\exhaust) over the top
I needed to use the derv rad to enable me to route the FMIC as a single pass and still had to chop bits from the front to get it to fit - not laods but a little....
Either wya good luck with it; it would be an epic noise when done, and that torque would be lovely!
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02-02-11, 10:53 AM
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I'm sure I saw a picture of a KV6 fitted with a turbo, but it was right down the bottom of the block near where the two standard manifolds join
I'll need to see if I can find it
I remember seeing a BMW in something like Fast Car or Max power years ago that had the turbo INSIDE the car in the passenger footwell. That would certainly keep your toes warm in the winter
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02-02-11, 11:52 AM
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Ok, so the turbo KV6 is gonna be pricey and has questions over the reliability above circa 250bhp, and the VAG option may end up chucking its guts up.
Is the T series really the best option for engine swapping a ZS to gain a high power output?
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02-02-11, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by caled
Is the T series really the best option for engine swapping a ZS to gain a high power output?
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nah the L Series will fit and give good gains lol
What about a V6 from another car? Like... say a TVR
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02-02-11, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caled
Is the T series really the best option for engine swapping a ZS to gain a high power output?
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Best?...probably not.
Best value for money?...most definitely
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02-02-11, 12:29 PM
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nah the L Series will fit and give good gains lol
What about a V6 from another car? Like... say a TVR
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V6 TVR.......were they not the early Ford engines? I thought all recent ones were of the Rover derived V8s?
Now that's a conversion that has always been stuck in my twisted mind.....................RWD supercharged V8 up front.
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02-02-11, 12:44 PM
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Now that's a conversion that has always been stuck in my twisted mind.....................RWD supercharged V8 up front.
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Ahem... well err looking into that a few years back I'm convinced the Freelander running gear would fit to make it 4WD (although never went too deep into looking at it) and others tell me the Evo 3 (IIRC) running gear will fit perfect
Infact IIRC there is a ZR body running around somewhere on an Evo chassis, engine and transmission...
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02-02-11, 06:36 PM
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my vag engine water pump impellor failed which obviously meant no coolant circulation, that wouldnt be a problem normally as you would notice the temps rising and just turn it off but i was ragging round cadwell park and the first i knew of it was lack of power and temp gauge through the roof, thing is i had done a few laps with the power fluctuating before i noticed the temp gauge.
Was no big issue tbh, martin skimmed 5 thou off the head just as a precaution and fitted a new gasket that was it, there was no guts spilt and no big engine rebuild.
I think thats remarkably good considering, id like to see the state of any rover engine after a similar whooopsie, lol.
If you want reliable big power theres no better option...just make sure you have a new water pump with metal impellor.!!!!
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02-02-11, 08:16 PM
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The plastic water pump impellor failure is a common problem on the VAG 1.8..... metal impellor water pumps are available now
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02-02-11, 08:29 PM
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the vag conversion is definatly good, but id really like to see a kv6 twin turbo mereley as a technical exersize, no one else has a twin turbo v6 zs do they
still when it comes the time when my zs becomes a toy ather than the day to day car i still would like to look down the honda route, vtec suer or turbocharged would be rather nice under the zs i think
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