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19-10-09, 08:25 PM
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19-10-09, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by peterzs
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Thats because just after you join the 3 or 4 sets of road works there is a sign that says over night work being carried out
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20-10-09, 09:16 AM
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Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
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20-10-09, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by R8NMG
Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
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look mate, there are 2 mile strectches of the damn thing that havnt been touched in months, but the cones are still there and the 30mph speed restriction!! i hav absolutley no problem with the speed when there are people working, in fact i usually go slower when passing them, but even then the work only gets dun at night
and if u think its just me that thinks its ridiculous, in the paper today, in 24 hours they caught 600 people doin more than 40mph, as everyone thinks its a joke!
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24-10-09, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by R8NMG
Roadworks, cones, speed limit etc are all there for a reason. I am sure the contractors do not put cones there willy nilly just so they can delay your journeys. Not everyone works 24/7 and do you know how long it will take to set up traffic management on a 3-4 miles stretch of a motorway. If we want good roads and infrastructures then we will have to live with roadworks.
As for the speed limit it is there to protect the workforce. Next time try standing on a layby within inches of cars doing 70mph next to you. That is not pleasant, and imagine those people working on the roads with only some plastic cones protecting them from numpty drivers doing more than the speed limit.
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Well said.
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Originally Posted by bmm87
look mate, there are 2 mile strectches of the damn thing that havnt been touched in months, but the cones are still there and the 30mph speed restriction!! i hav absolutley no problem with the speed when there are people working, in fact i usually go slower when passing them, but even then the work only gets dun at night
and if u think its just me that thinks its ridiculous, in the paper today, in 24 hours they caught 600 people doin more than 40mph, as everyone thinks its a joke!
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If 600 people are stupid enough to get done for speeding when it is clearly signed then that's their problem, these idiots are the kind of people that shouldn't be allowed to do 70mph when there are no road works! Unfortunately people ignore the speed limit signs so they have to enforce it with cameras, if people could be trusted it wouldn't be necessary. I stopped an idiot doing 90 through a 50 at night with the matrix flashing, "Workforce in road, slow" he total ignored it and admitted seeing it.
Those workers have a very dangerous job, I wouldn't want to do it, a 40mph limit for a few miles is not the end of the world.
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24-10-09, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Andyf
Well said.
If 600 people are stupid enough to get done for speeding when it is clearly signed then that's their problem, these idiots are the kind of people that shouldn't be allowed to do 70mph when there are no road works! Unfortunately people ignore the speed limit signs so they have to enforce it with cameras, if people could be trusted it wouldn't be necessary. I stopped an idiot doing 90 through a 50 at night with the matrix flashing, "Workforce in road, slow" he total ignored it and admitted seeing it.
Those workers have a very dangerous job, I wouldn't want to do it, a 40mph limit for a few miles is not the end of the world.
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right so we are not allowed to question the fact that this is inappropriate, and im not talking about speeding past the workforce if u had bothered to read my posts! they shouldnt turn what is effectivly an 8 mile stretch of motorway to 40 mph, then only work at one tiny bit at a time! fair enough, reduce the speed, but 40 is bordering on ridiculous!
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24-10-09, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bmm87
right so we are not allowed to question the fact that this is inappropriate, and im not talking about speeding past the workforce if u had bothered to read my posts! they shouldnt turn what is effectivly an 8 mile stretch of motorway to 40 mph, then only work at one tiny bit at a time! fair enough, reduce the speed, but 40 is bordering on ridiculous!
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And if you had bothered to read my post you would have seen that at no point did I say anything about questioning whether 40 mph was inappropriate or not, I merely said it is not a big deal to do 40mph for a few miles and that cameras are necessary to ensure it is complied with.
Anyway, do you seriously think that someone somewhere sat down and plucked the 40mph figure from the air thinking it would cause maximum disruption to everyone? Or do you think they followed policy that has been carefully worked out?
40mph may seem slow but they have obviously come up with it for a reason and not just to annoy people.
I don't know why they don't seem to work during the day but again there must be a reason.
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20-10-09, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan.F
Thats because just after you join the 3 or 4 sets of road works there is a sign that says over night work being carried out
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I'm all for keeping the workforce safe, we used to cut Christchurch bypass verges, the official rule was the slow lane closed off with cones, if cutting nearside and fast lane when cutting central reservations. Thats in a 70mph section, if it was below 70 we didnt have to cone off. The alternative was the 3 vehicle rolling road block, 2 transits with flashing signs, pointing left or right and a bumper lorry, flashing strobes etc.
That cost £2,200 + VAT for a day or part day.
Same with litter collecting.
Fair enough if the work is done at night, but why don't they flood the work with labour. When you do see people its never 40 - 50 more like 10.
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