Im Homeless

[DeMoNPauL]

Originally Posted by Maxxed_Ross

I'm hardly on XPF these days. If you're not in the clan you get flamed for nothing.

Ross that aint true

I myself try to make everyone welcome.

Originally Posted by Maxxed_Ross

And to answer the earlier question we have nothing to do with Hitler or his sites, so what did you say? Must have hit a nerve lol

I may be wrong but does the person concerned not host this forum??

Originally Posted by Phate

hehe, sounds like fun!
Ah well mate, it's a very friendly forum here, I'm sure you'll settle in fine

Theres nothing fun about it Bob was a well respected member on XPF and he knows i did everything i could to keep him on XPF.

Originally Posted by sarah

secondly ignore those bunch of dim wits on the forums,
i know you must be annoyed/angry right now but dont let it get to you, this site is whole damn better than those 2 you are banned from

Sarah chill out

I am not a Dim Wit and what do you know about XPF? you have only been on it for a very short period.

If you took the time like i did you would find that XPF is the most Knowledgeable place for the modern MG.

Originally Posted by carmadbaker

we are much cooler and down to earth than the other forums dude

How is that?

What do you know about XPF??

Before you sprout off i suggest you look into the history and what people in the past put into it etc.

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

Ok XPF is not everyones cup of tea but there is some of us who try to keep it inline with what it was in its heydey.

Originally Posted by Bobdope2002

This is my new base forum and XPF will be the second one

Thats your choice Bob.

Originally Posted by talkingcars

and not wanting to drop myself in it with XPF but I've had messeges deleted there because the thread starter has a chip on his shoulder and though my messege saying "good luck" was taking the st mick! I still post there sometimes because they can often throw a diffrent veiw on a technical problem.

I do most prefer here for my ZS fix though so I wont go

Let me address this.

The original poster of the thread requested that the said posts be removed so as not to cause any controversy.

Saying that i can see where you were coming from but the thread was obvioulsly starting to errupt.

Hence the original poster asked for it to be modded.

You all know what i am talking about because a similar thing happened on here and the thread was deleted and the guy was banned.

I do know this guy takes alot of negative publicity on many forums but if he is that bad "Why hasnt there been any prosecutions of him etc etc"

If i believed some of the stories i have read i would surely be on to my solicitors to sue the arse of the guy.

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one apart from myself and what i do on XPF.

[Bobdope2002]

hey paul i never said you didnt try and not help me i dint realise you were a mwmber over here as i would have said you were the only one on my side

which was the truth

TBH aswell paul theyre is not much point me basing myself on XPF for me to get fount out an banned AGAIN

like ive said i enjoyed XPF a great load of people but this is home for the time being bud

[talkingcars]

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL

I do know this guy takes alot of negative publicity on many forums but if he is that bad "Why hasnt there been any prosecutions of him etc etc"

If i believed some of the stories i have read i would surely be on to my solicitors to sue the arse of the guy.

Dont get me wrong i aint sticking up for no one apart from myself and what i do on XPF.

He has been succsessfully sued by someone I know for £11,000! This was mostly for parts removed and "lost" from a car he was supposdily installing a new engine. He disappeared for quite sometime after this and I'm not sure if he paid up in the end.

He has various technics from staging robberies when customers are around to declaring himself bancrupt to moving.

The biggest problem I'm having is getting people to tell me about their own personal experience as they are either scared of him, he has since done them a little favour, or for some reason are unwilling to tell me the good stories!

I could go on but I'm saving it!

[Maxxed_Ross]

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL

Ross that aint true

I myself try to make everyone welcome.

I know that Paul, but like has been said before it only taks a few people being silly to ruin it totally. I never had a problem with the site for a long time but as soon as the site changed owners all those years ago, I think the general feeling on the site changed for the worse.

I don't like the way the place is going personally, and I enjoy the laid back feeling here. I don't know if it is suffering in the same way as theMGZR.co.uk is with the influx of new young drivers due to the lower 2nd hand values these days... but there is a deffinate change in the air

Welcome along Bob

[Mat C]

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

There seems to be a lot of negativity towards XPF at the moment and in many respects i can understand why - Ross picks up on my major reason and that is there's too many young kids thinking they know it all and bringing their limited knowledge and inflated attitudes along. All that does is wind-up the older guard who helped make it the giant it is now.

Some background info on XPF. In late 2001 a gentleman i am proud to call a friend called Jerry Flint went to a BTCC race and met up with another gent callen Kev Neal (cousin of Matt Neal) and along with a few others decided to turn what was Jerrys basic blog about running his Rover 75 into a website dedicated to the new breed of MG's : The Zed range. Regional meets were organised and soon the members came flooding in. An online gallery was created which to this day is one of the nets largest car-based gallerys - an achievement in itself. I was one of the very early members and helped with regional meets and BTCC events, often getting convoys of 75+ cars.

I then started working for MG's works BTCC team on the merchandise/display stand. This gave further relationships between MG and XPF with Jerry and me often visiting the factory. In 2004 we sponsored not only Jason Hughes maiden season in a ZS but also WSR who were now running 2 ZS's independantly with no MG backing. We then ran a raffle to help WSR's race programme even further. Jerry personaly went out and bought a brand new MG TF for the raffle prize - sheer dedication to the marque. The raffle was a huge success and we gave WSR thousands. (this is why you will find a lot of BTCC supporters who used to support the MG's now support WSR's 2 orange BMW's !)

Then in 2005 when the sad news of Longbridge closing it's doors reached us we immediatly reacted. The owners of Leda suspension, Beverley and Andy Miles made it their mission to show and give support to MGR's hard and loyal workers by organising a convoy to Longbridge. A few of us negotiated with the local authorities for Police assistatance (which we got - including a junction of the M42 being shut to allow us through !) and we even had BBC, ITV and Sky news involved. The rally was a huge success, we had hundreds of cars in convoy and raised thousands once again.

Following this, feeling and morale was low on XPF and Jerry decided he wanted to step down. By this time XPF was a business in it's own right and needed someone to step in, not only with money but with a hosting package and knowledge of running a site. A few of us tried to get a rescue package together but it failed and eventualy it was Steve Childs who stepped in.

It was here that many of us felt let down as we felt that he bought his own army of moderators in, wiping us out with complete disregard for the years of hard work we had put in.
In the meantime Beverley and Andy Miles formed a new website, Brit-cars.com and Jerry formed his own going back to his motorsport routes, Sportscar-racing.com. All the old guard from XPF ended up as members of either one or both - i'm on both, admin on Sports-car as well as a moderator on Jerrys other MG website.

Some of us still frequent XPF but it doesn't seem the same. We try to add our knowledge and input but it's rarely appreciated and then the fact that RSM is allowed to roam free is an insult to us who did our best to make sure he would never scam another MGR owner again. I'm glad there are still big supporters of XPF and i still have respect for it and great memories of what we achieved. I spend most of my time here and on Sportscar-racing.com but i would like to add that i think it's wrong for those who don't know about XPF, it's background and what was achieved to go knocking it and slagging it off. It may be run in a vastly different way to how we used to know it but it's still the largest independantly run MG website in the world and the wealth of collective knowledge there is unrivalled and unchallenged by any other MGR website.

Sorry for the length of this post and for hijacking Bobs thread !

[carmadbaker]

Originally Posted by DeMoNPauL

How is that?

What do you know about XPF??

Before you sprout off i suggest you look into the history and what people in the past put into it etc.

Ask Matt C what the likes of Jerry flint,Leda and many more i could mention put into building the MG community.

Ok XPF is not everyones cup of tea but there is some of us who try to keep it inline with what it was in its heydey.

Jesus christ dude calm down, practice what you preach!
its was just a comment....freedom of speech is one of gods great gifts
so chill out dude, no-ones really laying into the XPF too harsh, its not a bad website, im a member so i do know i was commenting that the atmosphere on here is alot more laid back and not so serious all the time...people on here seem alot more personal and more my cup of tea....so chill out bud, have a beer

[Witnes$]

R 8 Bob what you been up to now? lol. .Org is ***** and completley over moderated, one words slightly non PC and you get a nasty PM so nowt to worry about there, I would be slightly pissed about XPF tho. By all accounts this Steve Childs is a ****!

Rob

[stamford]

I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

What I do not want to see is a divide between the MG community, we are all here for one simple purpose, so why the hostilities?

I would rather things be channeled in the right direction via the site team in question before airing it on another forum. It only creates bad blood and sucks more people in.

Paul has every right to be asking questions as he cares for XPF as we do for theMGZS, I would be no different if the roles were reversed.

Let's hope any differences can be resolved and let's make the MG community a happy one.

[arwilson80]

I'll echo what Stamford has said... I would make just 1 edit:

Originally Posted by stamford

I was half expecting this, it's a real shame when we have to read negative opinions on other forums / people. I just wished that people would be diplomatic in what they say so as to not create an atmosphere as witnessed here.

I am in 2 minds as to whether or not this thread should be 'locked' before it gets out of hand. I will let it run for another while and reconsider.