Brembodge findings

p_b82 · 11-08-13, 12:56 PM

Afternoon all,

I am going to make a statement here that i want to ensure that i am not blaming any-one or pointing fingers, but wanted to give people a heads up who may have the kit fitted.

I picked up a set from Sneakyparrot second hand - who i think i got them from some- from some-one, I am not sure of the history nor do I care... but It is more on analysis of the mounting brackets that there have been some issues\concerns.

I understand that there has been a revision, and it is possible that some of the things found out have been already rectified but this is what was found out when we tried to bolt the kit up onto my car...

The Bolts while mostly likely up to the job were no longer true and straight.
The thread on one of sets of holes, were course pitched not fine - so less structural strength as a result (and chewed so needed sorting). The fien threaded holes were still spot on though)
The Bracket had actually warped - meaning the calipers could not sit square to the disk...

It is this later point that is the more critical issue that i wanted to just mention to others, as it could cause issues if it happens to you over time etc.

Rather than get another set from the group buy on RT or sourced from there, I am getting a new one made up, a bit stronger to avoid a repeat issue, and a few other modifications while at it.

I can try to get a more specific issue list from Matt if any-one is interested...

As i said this is not a blame thing - it is probably just my car being jinxed tbh, but there *may* be warping of the brackets occuring and that is obviously not good.

Pete

Skillen · 11-08-13, 01:40 PM

Just as I stick the deposit on the gb! Lol
As long as the guys on RT find this ill be happy if its sorted for my batch!
Good to know that they could have problems then I can keep an eye out!

petet16 · 11-08-13, 01:56 PM

Thanks for the heads up on that, I've been using the set up for 3+ years and it is still as good as the day it was fitted, Rob and Si went to a lot of trouble to spec the parts of the kit to be as durable and robust as the oe items.

One of the problems of buying used gear is knowing if it was fitted properly in the first place, and also if it is still as originally manufactured, as an example your mention of the mounting plates being warped suggests to me that someone fitted them with washers between the upright and mounting bracket, this was one of the things which Rob mentioned specifically not to do.

p_b82 · 11-08-13, 02:01 PM

I do believe that washers were involved in the fitting of the kit i picked up...

So if that is the case, and it had been mentioned previously not to do it - then It is probably the root cause.

I know the kit was well designed and spec'd - so it was more as a heads up i wanted to mention it in passing... if it had been an 'issue' there would have been a lot more threads etc about it.

Hence why I said it could just be me being jinxed with my car!

KevG · 11-08-13, 02:12 PM

Pete,
I personally find that the kit is a complete bodge, I could never get the kit to run properly, even with the hub-centric spacers fitted!
I had grinding of the lower ball joint, of the inner wheel arch, the kit on its own is sub-standard, and the stopping power of the calipers in a straight line, no bumps/dips is excellent though, that’s why I sold my kit, however if you contact Maxfly he has a pair of Stainless Brackets that I got made up to try, but sold the kit before I could fit.
The brackets have the washers already built in, so it has 2 islands already (I you know what I mean!)
I have been told by a very reputable Japanese specialist here in Glasgow, that Honda Integra DC5 Brembo calipers, and Honda S2000 disks will fit with almost zero modifications.

Dave MGT · 11-08-13, 02:34 PM

Well mine isn't a brembodge kit. But I still have the disc/balljoint clearance issue. I have resorted to using the face of a std brake disc (5mm) cut off and welded to the inside of my brembo disc to space the disc outwards from the hub. That way the disc is still centralised properly.

petet16 · 11-08-13, 02:41 PM

The interference between the lower ball joint nut and disc can be alleviated by using reduced hex nuts, but it also depends how much lower than standard ride height you're running, I'm using xpower springs which are 25mm ? lower, and using the reduced hex nuts cured the rubbing between ball joint and disc.

Mark S · 11-08-13, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevG

I have been told by a very reputable Japanese specialist here in Glasgow, that Honda Integra DC5 Brembo calipers, and Honda S2000 disks will fit with almost zero modifications.

It would be interesting to know more about that, and if the brembo's for the DC5 are the same as brembo's on another car, as DC5 brembo's tend to fetch a packet.

petet16 · 11-08-13, 03:11 PM

There's quite a big difference in height between zs and S2000 discs, the S2000 are about 5.5mm shallower, it'd be interesting to get a few used bits to have a dabble with.

redzed · 11-08-13, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevG

I have been told by a very reputable Japanese specialist here in Glasgow, that Honda Integra DC5 Brembo calipers, and Honda S2000 disks will fit with almost zero modifications.

hmm i think we need to test this out!