180 Track Car Build

[ZS Phil]

Originally Posted by Skillen

Poor little razor with nothing left in him haha.
Good to see you're progressing with it all though!
The carpet. What have you done with it? Mines leaked in a lot again and I'd like to swap it out again as its a tad damp atm.

Nice work from Gaz there! I'll be getting mine back in the next week or so and I'm hoping the look as good as them!!

Haha, you wont recognise him at POL!

I have the carpet in the shed, I was toying with the idea of putting it in the TD because as you know it's in awesome condition. That said, I'm not sure when I'll get chance at the moment as its quite low on the priority list so was actually going to post it for sale along with the headlining.

I made sure I removed them both carefully and nothing was cut etc.

If you want it, let me know

Yeh, I dealt with a guy called Andy at Gaz, seemed very on the ball. Have you sent yours off already then? What spring rates etc you gone for?

[Skillen]

Yeah they're all done. Just need to pay up Monday and they'll be sent back.
The cars getting its belts done and cams fitted this weekend

I just asked for them returned as standard but if they're a bit soft I'll ask what they recommend as I'm not sure what I'll need for road use.

[ZS Phil]

Originally Posted by Skillen

Yeah they're all done. Just need to pay up Monday and they'll be sent back.
The cars getting its belts done and cams fitted this weekend

I just asked for them returned as standard but if they're a bit soft I'll ask what they recommend as I'm not sure what I'll need for road use.

Standard should be the same as the ones on my TD (400 lb/in front 225 rear). Playing with the damping can have a fairly big influence on how hard they feel.

I paid at 4:30 and they arrived the next morning first thing so either they made a **** up and sent them out before I paid or they use a really good courier!

I bet you cant wait to get the cams in and have piece of mind with the belts. It'll have all the main mods done then!

[Skillen]

Must have been a hell of a courier!! Haha
Your TD didn't feel too hard at all tbh.
I can't go too low atm due to the spacers but hopefully with a bit of rolling they'll be fine.
They won't be on for PoL though I don't think as there's a lot needing done.
Mapping is the main one following the cams.
And my splitter is all sprayed up now too and I'm picking that up on Wednesday so it'll need fitted and then a damn good clean, clay, Polish and wax.
If I can get the shocks on then I will but I don't wanna ruin anything before the drive down, but I do have the Friday before it off work so maybe some leeway there.

[ZS Phil]

Sounds like its all go!

Would you not be tempted to take the spacers off so you can fit the coilovers, see how it looks and then if you think the wheels still aren't filing the arches enough put them back on and then start rolling? Suppose its as broad as it is long really but you saw how low the TD is, it never scrapes and no arches have had a roller anywhere near them... just a thought but I'm sure it will look awesome either way

Unless you are 100% sure the rear fork bolts aren't seized in you would have to be pretty brave to attempt coilover fitment the day before POL as you may end up having to cut the bolts out which will obviously ruin the bolts and possibly the bush (unless you have all the spares lined up beforehand of course but then you might not need them).

Have you found anywhere more local to do the mapping than Reidy yet?

[Skillen]

Originally Posted by ZS Phil

Sounds like its all go!

Would you not be tempted to take the spacers off so you can fit the coilovers, see how it looks and then if you think the wheels still aren't filing the arches enough put them back on and then start rolling? Suppose its as broad as it is long really but you saw how low the TD is, it never scrapes and no arches have had a roller anywhere near them... just a thought but I'm sure it will look awesome either way

Unless you are 100% sure the rear fork bolts aren't seized in you would have to be pretty brave to attempt coilover fitment the day before POL as you may end up having to cut the bolts out which will obviously ruin the bolts and possibly the bush (unless you have all the spares lined up beforehand of course but then you might not need them).

Have you found anywhere more local to do the mapping than Reidy yet?

I'm not sure tbh. I absolutely love how it looks wider.
Something definitely needs to give though. Maybe 10mm off each of the rears and an arch roller.
The mk1 has.5inch less width on the wheel too so I was pushing it really but hey. I love with it.

Yeah it won't be getting done the day before. I'll be travelling down in daylight to stop the midges getting me and doing final prep work (quick detail at the Mrs in Lymm)
If I get chance I'll do it well before and I'll get some stainless bolts sorted for the suspension too.
No not yet. I'm hoping the local guy will see fruition but I'm not sure until then.
I read a few threads saying that the ECU has enough capacity to learn the 270's not sure how true that is though.
Also that it'll run lean top end but again I've heard they're all that way but I guess with a different cam it'll be leaner still.

[Mark S]

Originally Posted by Skillen

and I'll get some stainless bolts sorted for the suspension too.

stainless bolts are not very strong, stick with the oe bolts in stress areas, stainless are fine for pretty things, like holding a fairing on a motorbike.

[Skillen]

Originally Posted by Mark S

stainless bolts are not very strong, stick with the oe bolts in stress areas, stainless are fine for pretty things, like holding a fairing on a motorbike.

Okie doke will do.
Just didn't want them seizing up but I guess if i clean up the parts properly it shouldn't be too much of an issue. Also I won't be going another 13 years without touching them again!

[ZS Phil]

Originally Posted by Skillen

I'm not sure tbh. I absolutely love how it looks wider.
Something definitely needs to give though. Maybe 10mm off each of the rears and an arch roller.
The mk1 has.5inch less width on the wheel too so I was pushing it really but hey. I love with it.

Yeah it won't be getting done the day before. I'll be travelling down in daylight to stop the midges getting me and doing final prep work (quick detail at the Mrs in Lymm)
If I get chance I'll do it well before and I'll get some stainless bolts sorted for the suspension too.
No not yet. I'm hoping the local guy will see fruition but I'm not sure until then.
I read a few threads saying that the ECU has enough capacity to learn the 270's not sure how true that is though.
Also that it'll run lean top end but again I've heard they're all that way but I guess with a different cam it'll be leaner still.

I'm actually really looking forward to POL, so much to do yet though.
Hope you do manage to get the coilovers on, it will look incredible
I've heard talk of learning regarding the ECU too, I don't think the word learning is strictly true to be honest but rather the ECU will pluck different values from a pre-determined range dependent upon input sensor values such as lambda, temp, engine speed etc.
As long as these pre-determined ranges contain suitable values for the different input values due to the mods then you should be ok. If not, that is where a re-map comes in.

The above isn't based on experience with the 180 ECU but rather my understanding of how an ECU works in general.

Anyway, I'm talking too much. Re-map for race car points.

[Skillen]

Originally Posted by ZS Phil

I'm actually really looking forward to POL, so much to do yet though.
Hope you do manage to get the coilovers on, it will look incredible
I've heard talk of learning regarding the ECU too, I don't think the word learning is strictly true to be honest but rather the ECU will pluck different values from a pre-determined range dependent upon input sensor values such as lambda, temp, engine speed etc.
As long as these pre-determined ranges contain suitable values for the different input values due to the mods then you should be ok. If not, that is where a re-map comes in.

The above isn't based on experience with the 180 ECU but rather my understanding of how an ECU works in general.

Anyway, I'm talking too much. Re-map for race car points.

I'm getting more excited at the prospect too! Just wish the paintwork was in better condition but that will come with time.
Just paid for the coilovers this morning and they'll be with me by tomorrow so their courier is ace! They needed a rod doing so more than I was expecting but I paid far less overall than buying new so I'm pleased.
I also just ordered so gear to do the arches which will be with me by the end of the week so if the car is done (saw it on the garage forecourt this morning which may be promising) I'll try and get it all widened, trimmed and fitted this weekend! I'll spray penetrating fluid everyday I have the car back up till its time and I have a blow torch which may help with the bolts.

Glad the car is serving you well though! It'll be good to see it in the flesh!
When my saloon was stripped out it definitely felt sharper so it should be good!