Just hit a cyclist (no one hurt)... - Page 2

caled · 19-03-13, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MG ZS STE

In a row of stationary traffic you were the only vehicle moving (and on the wrong side of the road) into the cyclist right of way.

Dependent on whether the cycle lane had give way markings, surely?

Either way, glad you and the cyclist are ok.

DuckFeet · 19-03-13, 12:50 PM

lol 10 points! Stuff I was thinking but didn't want to post. Actually I was Prepping my brain to think first aid and a lot of screaming.

Poor diagram sorry, the red car pulled forward to join the others, then I turned into the sideroad. I had to wait for him a few seconds, which is why it was so annoying, I would have been out of harms way if he hadn't been a prat. Also no one stopped or got out their cars! what the hell? It doesnt hurt to shout "you ok mate?" out a window. I dunno.

Might have been the ZS, if it had I would have been parked up a good 5 minutes earlier

He hadn't reached the cycle lane yet. Given the visibility he had wherever he was he was going too fast in my opinion. I was in the road he wanted to occupy but obviously didnt see him (or I would have waited and hit him with the front of the car

I just phoned up to check on him, we're both fine and neither side is persuing anything. I think that means he doesn't see it being my fault, or we're both just easy going, lesson learned and glad no one was hurt. It's interesting to hear views on what should/shouldn't have happened there though.

edit: Is ther a good scratch repair guide here? I've got two about the same thickness as a bicycle brake...

stamford · 19-03-13, 01:34 PM

So you were turning right from a major road into a minor side road? The cyclist was on a designated cycle path running parallel to the major road? If so the cyclist is at fault for not stopping at the minor road giveway. All roads have priority over cycle paths afaik, he should have stopped to look before crossing the road. Cycle paths stop at the road the same as any pedestrian path does.

DuckFeet · 19-03-13, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stamford

Cycle paths stop at the road the same as any pedestrian path does.

Interesting point as pedestrians have right of way on a pavement, which I was crossing. I should clarify that the "side road" was a private single track into a car park. I've made out that it is a road I believe. Maybe I should annoate a google maps screenshot...

petet16 · 19-03-13, 01:55 PM

Was the cyclist on the road or pavement.

Captain Peanut · 19-03-13, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DuckFeet

Interesting point as pedestrians have right of way on a pavement, which I was crossing. I should clarify that the "side road" was a private single track into a car park. I've made out that it is a road I believe. Maybe I should annoate a google maps screenshot...

Pedestrians only have priority if they are already crossing the road that you are turning into.

I would say that the cyclist is at fault here, he wasn't in the cycle lane yet was undertaking stationary traffic. As no-one is taking matters any further its merely conjecture but interesting to see other peoples take on it.

DuckFeet · 19-03-13, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Peanut

As no-one is taking matters any further its merely conjecture but interesting to see other peoples take on it.

This. If I can improve my road-sense then all the better. I believe he was on the road, why? I'm pretty sure he said he was on the cycle path, which is on the road further down where he was travelling to.

petet16 · 19-03-13, 02:40 PM

I just asked if he was on the road or pavement as it may have had a bearing if either party was taking any further action, but as they're not it doesn't matter.

p_b82 · 19-03-13, 04:08 PM

i think techncially speaking you the car is at fault for crossing the flow of traffic and entering a minor road from a major one - it is technically your responsibility to make sure it is clear for you to do so before you start your manoeuvre.

I say this as an aquaintance was recently knocked off his bike in a similar way - car pulled infront of him and caused a bit more than just a bit of paint scratches (you he was one a racer and on that hill i can get over 30mph on an MTB with off road tyres)

the car insurance paid out in full to replace his bike which was wrecked.....

As no-one is pursuing this any further it is irrelevant - but it is always hit and miss - the cyclist could have been more aware - he would have seen a car slowly pull out in front into the stream of traffic and i would ahve slowed in case some-one could not see me nipping up the inside....

glad no-one was hurt though... or any ZS

daytona365 · 19-03-13, 06:22 PM

What you should have done is made the cyclist swerve to avoid you, so no damage to your car, and into the path of oncoming HGV so no cyclist either. Then he couldnt go through anymore red lights, ride on pavements in shopping centres, ride through in queues and bang your wing mirrors.....................................