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Old 20-10-13, 11:08 AM   #1
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I still really like my zs it must be something keeps bringing me back to them,Im on my fourth 180 now,and like other guys have said on here there's not much you can buy for the money of our zs's that look anywhere near as nice mk1 or mk2 Im think they stand out along side a lot of cars in the same age band,I cant tell what it is but didnt want to part my 2k in the same garage i bought my 180 with a poxy 1.2 54 reg standard fiesta for 2k or the mk2 180?it won hands down And the reason the insiginia pulled away as i found yesterday with steve one of my vis's are down which i didnt know but will soon be fixed
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....And the reason the insiginia pulled away as i found yesterday with steve one of my vis's are down which i didnt know but will soon be fixed

And see what you started .....
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Old 20-10-13, 12:52 PM   #3
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And see what you started .....
Started one hell of a thread Dan just a shame some ppl had to put a few insultive things as comments considering we all get along on here quite well to be fair and help each other out which is what these car forums are all about
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Old 21-10-13, 06:51 AM   #4
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Only to be expected. Best left ignored perhaps?
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Old 21-10-13, 11:49 AM   #5
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I’m going to go out on a limb here, this video is Dave chasing down George on track, you can clearly see the shortcomings of the stock ZS180, even though George was on 888’s and upgrade brakes the car was at its limit. Dave was running cams and manifolds and an ATB diff and reeled George in very quickly, within ½ a lap, in reality this can’t be down to outright power as Dave was at about 200bhp.
I went passenger with George the same day and he is a very capable driver and drove the car to the absolute limit, however, if the drivers swapped cars the results would have remained the same, the stock ZS is hampered due to its overall weight and handling, suspension isn’t particularly compliant at the upper limits as you can see from George’s car, body roll on entry and weight transfer on exit. This video shows how to exploit a ZS with 200bhp, weight reduction, power delivery and decent suspension coupled with improved braking.
If you surf Dave’s video’s for the VAG transplant you see this at another level, 100bhp more and well over 100 ft/lbs torque but the car handles perfectly on the same chassis set-up with the inclusion of a roll cage, there is a weight reduction over the front wheels due to the lighter engine and it’s placement in the bay.

I think this provides a fair comparison, also, just a foot note, I was on an XPOWER track day when Matt C was driving his BMW 330 diesel (think it was Matt) it was torrential rain and that BMW ran rings around most things out on track that day so don’t be too harsh on the lad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FakRj...P6tOW_qmvL23yw
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