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Old 02-12-12, 12:16 AM   #31
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I would buy it as i have unfinished business but be quick

No t16 bashing just stating experience!

one thing i noticed is, you don't need the torque!
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Old 02-12-12, 12:18 AM   #32
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awwk all i wish is that they wer still avaiable . just butting it in their the KV6 is some engine, but T16 was some engine when it was new. the Zs 180 pulls like a train all the time tho just want another 1
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Old 02-12-12, 12:20 AM   #33
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get one with the right kit and it pulls almost the same as a charged one anyway. just without the bangs. lol
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Old 02-12-12, 12:21 AM   #34
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get one with the right kit and it pulls almost the same as a charged one anyway. just without the bangs. lol

even if they were available the last RRP was well over 4k IIRC... would you pay that for one?!
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Old 02-12-12, 12:04 PM   #35
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What your ignoring is the age of this engine.

I will give you some facts.

A friend ran a std nasp Zs up santa pod and did consistent 14.9 quarter miles.

I took a nasp zs up the strip with reduced weight and ran a 14.3

I ran a striped zs out with 210 hp and ran a 13.7

I ran a striped (lighter than the nasp) supercharged zs up the strip many times and managed to get 13.5 after 3 years. (260BHP!!)

go and look for a T16 up the strip. Honestly Power is not everything and I know pub talk means a lot to people but a decent 200bhp KV6 will see off a 250bhp T16 every day.


So the T16 can be pushed to 300bhp? I wouldn't bother the cost and benefit if any outweigh the cost. you end up needing serious chassis development, brake developmentand so on. Fact is (me included) the ZS in KV6 form is still very track agile and I doubt many of us could push it beyond its limitations in the right circumstances (115mph down craners on road tyres for example!!!)

I have witnessed so much pure ***** in my time with these cars (03 onwards)

Honestly a T16 is well passed it. do the right mods to a KV6 and say goodbye.

Ross

edit for what its worth I have owned all of the above cars.

180BHP ZS NASP

190BHP ZS NASP

230 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

260 BHP ZS SUPERCHARGED

210 BHP ZS NASP (CAMS ETC) X 2

Many T16 cars
Wow!
new you had a few zs's but that makes my 4 seem small lol!

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forget tuning the old & dated zs.

If you want real driving thrills for a reasonable outlay, spend your money on a Megane R26 F1 230.
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Stuck a 300bhp Audi engine in there and it broke down each track day, coil packs, water pump, overheated brakes, turbo problems.
I saw it all.

Hoping the rebuild with all the new parts / chassis upgrades should resolve 99% of the issues, the troublesome coil packs are being dumped!

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forget tuning the old & dated zs.

If you want real driving thrills for a reasonable outlay, spend your money on a Megane R26 F1 230.
nice motor!

i was looking a seat cupra r's before the Vag ZS came along. Still i want to run it for a couple of seasons before upgrading, by then i should of found my feet on 4 wheels :-)

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for me the t16 argument is easily solved by what u want to do with the zs, adding a few bhp is good not tho if it means adding another 30 plus kgs over the front wheels, means extra stress on the chassis and worse handling. but thats just me because i want it to go fast round a track. drag strip is a different matter, fst road is also a different matter as u cant get near limits (ubnless youre an idiot!) so its all about top trumphs arguing with guys about power figures
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i probly would pay that knowing me but the fact is i would need someone to fit it but it seems like illl never have 1. but as for the KV6 its a lighter engine with less power than the T16 but the KV6 has a more constane power deliverly all over the rev range.
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